Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Try to visit Russia to look for a sex with minors, and you will be surprised how soon you will start to dream about formal arrest, that can protect you from lynching. But police car may "suddenly" break in the way to give you more time to dream.

Masha Gessen is one of LGBTQFU activists that writes about their wet dreams, not about reality.

I know who she is. Just because she can't decide whether to be Martha or Arthur does not discredit her observations about Russia. She's a very intelligent, informed and astute person.


And lead you to torture instead.

Like so many others, you are either a fool, a liar or just plain evil.

It really does I'm afraid. It indicates that she has extreme religious and political views that will colour her perceptions on everything, they match your religious and political views and that is why you cannot it as an issue.

There's a newer book out (blanking on the author) who looks at modern russia and finds.... a muddle where no one knows (or cares) what is true or not. That was actually the result of a planned campaign by Surkov to depoliticize the population so they wouldn't mind living in poverty which a few rich oligarchs steal everything.

Surkov would do things like sponsor a modern art exhibition and then pay orthodox priests to protest it... (and lots of other variations of playing different sides against each other in order to create maximum cognitive dissonance and reinforce the natural russian tendency toward learned helplessness).

Her social circle (to put it mildly) is asking for a boulder to the head, and to extend her observation about this cesspool to the entire community is insulting.

Perhaps the people simply lost faith in politics and decided to disengage in order to try and hold on to their sanity and just go about their daily lives? This is how I feel currently so I can sympathize.

Ok... what the actual f*ck?


I'm glad you were at least somewhat taken aback. Jesus Christ!

If you hope to form an accurate impression of Russia, not something surreal along the lines of the above, please avoid reading The New Yorker's Masha Gessen, and The Atlantic's Anne Applebaum. Those two hate Russia with the passion of a thousand suns. What's more, they have long since ceased to be taken seriously, even by member's of Russia's opposition. They found a readership for themselves amongst foreign audiences, with folks like Mafketis, and write exclusively for them.

Also, you'd do well to avoid reading Kasparov, Galeev, and Pomerantsev.

If you really must read something written by an anti-Putinist, read Kara-Murza. He can at least be reasonable. Him and Navalny, have my respect, because they are sitting in jail and not slinging turds from behind the fence.

Or, at least, balance it out by reading guys like Orlando Figes. Few things I've read from Dmitri Trenin are pretty level-headed, as well.

Hey Mr ruski put a record on youtube.com/watch?v=Sdz2oW0NMFk

nvn, i'm a just drunk irish nigah.

As always pet shop boys will lead our way youtube.com/watch?v=LNBjMRvOB5M

I know nothing about Masha Gessen's religious views or what her general politics are either. But a lot of what she says about Russia makes sense and is borne out by other things I've read over the years by a variety of far less controversial figures than her.

So what are my religious and political views? I must warn you first that elements of my extremism can be seen in the way I knit socks for my husband and bake mouth-watering Victoria sponge cakes :) I really do :)

2015 yeah it' pop but i love it youtube.com/watch?v=8FMpIiDo-Ic
one of the most beutifull movements i have had. 89 and all that. I always tear up.

Also punch up with the degenerates of warsaw.

It doesn't. Did Gore Vidal, or Muriel Spark? Or Jaroslaw Kaczynski?

Actually, scratch the last one.


Yes, her stuff is excellent. As are Anne Applebaum's writings.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian grain shipments are leaving via Croatia and r*SSia can do nothing about that, and orc forces are depleted by 50%.

Believing you can change sex is extreme @jon357. You are an extremist.

Jesus weeping Christ... 0_0

I refuse to believe that this anything else than somebody's sick sick fantasy. Wait a minute...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha_Gessen

... LGBT activist, lives with her (their?) "wife" (a new one, she "divorced" her previous "wife"), is "nonbinary" and refers to herself (themselves?) using the pronoun "they".

Hmm... whatever reason could she possibly have to dislike Russia and Putin?

No change at all, not that someone's personal life should worry you.

And even if they had, would that make their reportage of r*SSia less authoritative? No. Of course it wouldn't.

And her opinions are far from extreme.


Perhaps the same reason that millions dislike them. Are you suggesting they should like Bucha, Wagner Group, Putler and the Mariupol Theatre Atrocity?

They aren't though, aren't they.

I was somewhat taken aback, when I read that in Ireland children are groomed from birth to be raped by adults.

Quote from the Irish Times:

Gardaí investigating a major paedophile ring uncovered in Munster believe some of its child victims were groomed from birth to be abused.

Almost 20 children have been taken into care and away from the extended family-based setting where years of abuse is alleged to have taken place.

Gardaí believe some of the children were raped and otherwise sexually abused not only by relatives but also by people from outside the family who paid for access to the children.

Source: irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/almost-20-child-victims-of-alleged-paedophile-ring-identified-1.3416894

The scale and longevity of this pedophile ring, tells me that this must likely be normalized behavior in Ireland. In other words, just the tip of the iceberg.

While in Russia, we wait until children are at least five years old before soliciting oral sex from them, in Ireland it appears the abuse starts from birth. Clearly, it is a very sick society.

Extreme? Of course not. Her views on r*SSia are entirely mainstream.


Still trying to deflect from r*SSIa's losses.....

Fair enough, I suppose once you completely step outside of the Church nothing is extreme. Apart from actually adhering to traditional Church teachings of course. Interesting perspective.

No, just still a little shocked that Atch could produce such nonsense as "Russia's calm acceptance of pedophilia". Usually she's pretty sharp...

This is what happens when you read Masha Gessen.

Does this photo below look like a Masha to you?

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My view is based on years of reading about Russia from many sources - there is a thread of something highly unsavoury running through Russian social history around inappropriate sex with very young girls.

@ Luke, you haven't answered my question.

Most of the world aren't Christians and not all Christians are part of the Orthodox/Anglican/Roman church.


They accept any sort of violence and depravity.

However this is still a distraction from Ukraine's achievements in steadily de-orcing their territory.

GefreiterKania answered it for me above.


I'm not arguing this I'm trying to understand your point of view when you say they changing sex is not an extreme thing to do, and it makes sense if you are completely outside the Church. So fair play, always good to see things from another point of view.

No, he didn't.

We're talking about their journalistic output. Very moderate.


r*SSian war crimes and their violent culture have nothing to do with that and in any case, no mainstream religion of any sort mirrors the foul society in r*SSia.

Ireland has a population of 5M people. Russia has a population of 150M+. So, it's a country about 30X larger than Ireland.

Given the mass of articles I have found online regarding pedophilia in Ireland, I think it would be fair to argue that Ireland has proportionally a much bigger problem with pedophilia than Russia. Haha!

Not to mention, you lot are fervent Catholics - the religious sect which is pretty much synonymous with pedophilia.

I notice, also, you don't comment on the myriad instances of religious fundamentalists (especially from within the Mormon community) engaging in sexual relations with children in the United States. Also, you don't seem to notice that it is almost inevitably Western European persons that get caught traveling through places like Southeast Asia and corrupting the vulnerable youths there.

Atch, just admit you wrote something idiotic, please?

We're not.

Incidentally how much do you know about Russia's orphans and street children? What do you know of their lives and what becomes of them?

Their life is no picnic, that's for sure. However, it was much worse in the immediate aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Putin has been doing a consistently better job, at directing state support towards orphanages and creating monetary incentives for adoption. The ban on adoption by Americans, was of course an ugly thing, for which Putin will have to answer before God... but other than that he has made improving their lot a priority throughout his several presidencies.

Also, Russia leads the charge against the propagandization of single sex marriages amongst school-age children, and the various Western attempts to teach kids about gender fluidity.

I have young nephews and nieces in Russia, and plenty of friends with school-age kids here in the US. The difference is staggering. In one of my friend's kid's grades (in the States), there is out of 25 kids, two kids that are receiving hormone therapy, and another boy that wears a bra to school.

When I told my Russian relatives about this anecdotal experience of mine, they were not a little bit shocked. None of their kids have a transgender classmate, or someone that shows up to school dressing in the opposite gender's clothes.

This should tell you something about the degree to which these things are synthetic, rather than biological in origin.

Kids are like little sponges, they soak everything up.