Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

If you really believe that,more fool you!


Really?And you are not infected with anti Brit phobia orchestrated by Brussels?
HaHaHaHa!!!!!! What a naive fool you are.....

You are really obsessed. :):):) Amassing!


Poor Brits.... :):):)

And pathetic,low life scum,who are a disgrace to there forefathers losing everything they had gained.Freaking whimps
It was funny when I would mention they are living cheap highlife in Poland and harry the blankshooter would question me what is it lol like he didnt know what I meant.

Ukrainian conscription officer reveals huge casualty rate
Only 10-20% of those drafted in Poltava Region last fall are still fighting against Russia, Vitaly Berezhny was quoted as saying

At least Ukrainians are winning. I am not sure what but they are winning, Russia is out of ammo, and Putin has Stage 4 something.

More about Mongols...

Ukrainians are not winning as portrayed by the press.Ruskis are holding off.The end of this war will be cease fire,when ?that will depend on US.

I talked to cpl of Ukrainians driving fancy cars in Warsaw that how did they cross the border(being in there 30s)lol in the bar where the faggot Jon dresses up to go and the answer was 500Euros for the border guards.

That's not what PF war experts say.

Experts say that Ukraine must win, just as good must win over evil.

Czechs protesters, from far-right to far-left protested yesterday against their government's pro-Western policies...

reuters.com/world/europe/czech-protesters-rally-against-governments-pro-western-policies-2023-09-16/

... "we don't want a Prime Minister who is merely a puppet of Washington and Kiev", said Jindrich Reichl.



Some protesters even demanded that their country quit NATO.

abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thousands-czechs-rally-prague-demand-governments-resignation-103247754

Meanwhile, the EU acts against her own members (again) and in the interest of Ukrainian oligarchs and huge international concerns controlling Ukrainian farming, by lifting the ban on Ukrainian grain and other agricultural products. Poland, Hungary and Slovakia will introduce their own bans...

reuters.com/world/europe/eu-does-not-extend-ban-ukraine-grains-imports-neighbouring-eu-countries-2023-09-15/

As the classic said, a little bird told me interesting times are coming, and who knows, perhaps some people (even complete and utter pro-banderist retards) will finally start opening their eyes? Who knows, who knows...

It is basically the same caliber. The difference arose when countries started to make a transition from imperial to metric units. Up to WW1, 6 inches was a standard artillery caliber (6 inches = 152.4mm). At the same time, Russia employed a unit of measurement called a line, to measure calibers. The line was equal to exactly 1/10th of an inch.

This is why the Mosin-Nagant "3-Line Rifle", had a caliber of 7.62mm. Also, why the 5 line Browning machine gun, became 12.7mm. Finally, this is how a 60 line artillery caliber, became 152.4mm.

There's some further confusion, between the 155mm and 152.4mm caliber, because in the West the caliber is measured between the pits ("B" in the picture below), while in Warsaw Pact countries it is measured between the grooves ("A" below").

The real difference these days, is that 155mm Western shells are typically quite a bit longer than 152.4mm Russian shells.

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Nobody is winning.

The difference, however, between Russia not winning and Ukraine not winning is that Russia can "digest" the losses and, despite suffering a lot financially and militarily, has enough potential to survive and rebuild after the war. Ukraine, on the other hand, is already pretty much f*cked. Overwhelming majority of people who left to Germany, Poland, Canada etc. won't come back. There are currently between 27-30 million people in Ukraine. Research indicates that in the next decade there will be, depending on various factors, between 24 and 32 million people living in Ukraine...

osw.waw.pl/pl/publikacje/komentarze-osw/2023-07-11/ukraina-w-obliczu-katastrofy-demograficznej

... and it will be one of the oldest populations in Europe (it was mostly relatively young who left) with exorbitant levels of PTSD, depression and invalids. We are talking about a country that had 51.5 million people shortly before being granted independence (according to 1989 census) and GDP per capita higher than Poland (!). Ukraine has already lost, regardless of how many more square centimeters of territory their brilliant counter-offensive will regain.

Yes, I do hate to be right all the time.

Don't get me wrong - the Ukrainians here are lovely, hard-working people, but there's just too many. And it's not about this arseh*le Kania being annoyed with the number of Russian/Ukrainian speakers everywhere in Gdańsk (from the zoo and parks to the malls and restaurants) - I actually don't mind hearing Slavic languages, quite the contrary. It's about the young or less well-off Poles being driven from Tricity back to their little Ostródas, Iławas and other Lęborks because they simply cannot afford the rents anymore (the crazy influx of Ukrainians has driven rent prices up) despite somewhat higher salaries than they had back home. A lovely young maths teacher who worked with my wife is already back in Iława and a pre-school teacher whom my son absolutely adored last year won't be there to take care of him anymore, as she and her husband were forced to return to Człuchów to live with their parents again. Maybe it's better for those small, dying-out towns, but is it better for Poland in general that most major cities have effectively become bi-national? Time will tell.

look if those who will want to stay in Poland, to settle , are going to asimilate - that is a good thing,
There shouldn't be ukrianian or russian language all over the place, there also should be no benefits that only Polish citizens have extended to refugees... and so on...

I agree. If they gain Polish citizenship, then sure - they will be entitled to everything - no problem; but giving foreigners full access to free health service, education (even with preference when it comes to free, state kindergarten places) and welfare benefits, including child money, is nothing short of insane. Hopefully the next government will end this madness.

Brits complained in a similar fashion after they were flooded with Polish immigration.


Darling, when they work, they are entitled to benefits.
When they don`t work coz they are too senile or take care of kids, depriving them of benefits would add more inhumane conditions to their misery. Ukrainians are already moving to Germany coz Poland is too hard to live for them. And you want to make it even more unbearable. AmaSSing!


Don`t be so stupidly selfish.
Darling, remember one thing - now it is time for :Poles to repay what other nations have spent on us for decades, since WW2, practically.

I was here first who said the very same thing. Why would they leave and to what?

Any government that would allow refugees to flood in without explicit consent given to it by well-informed citizens through a legally binding referendum is a criminal organization.

The US and Polish governments are criminal organizations because they didn't ask the citizens for their consent.

Please don't insult me with "but we support" crap. "Support" means receiving a monthly refugee bill and paying it. Voluntarily.

Warm feelings are not "support".

Simple. RU can't win militarily and needs to resort to terrorist tactics to try to force Ukrainians into submission. Is like when Hitler failed to make Britain submit to him militarily and started to use V-2 rockets to attack Britain and get nothing militarily.

Nobody claims that winning is easy. It's a hard work against an enemy with air superiority. That's why the offensive is slow. Yet it is advancing.

F-16s and possibly Grippens will level the playing field a bit and make advances easier.

They might have, but that was after 20 years of British capital taking addvatage from 40 million virgin wide open Polish market ,,,,plus it was in accordnace with EU laws and rules that were going both ways...

It was a part of a deal, the fact that most Brits are ignorant (or worse) cun't is a diffreent matter.

In this case Poland gives something for nothing...... that charity! or stupididty. Why should Poles agree to it?
Notince you you dumb baboon we are talking about Polish gov policies not about Ukrianians.... Why are you so stupid?


I doubt it, there is no wonder weapons that solve issues, handing over few planes won't sovle anything, to bulid their air force it would like take four to six years and who is going pay for it and in siz years war could be over anyway...

US should hand them more artillery and more rockets and drons they they could destroy Russian air foreces or render it usesless, I think they could but they don't want to... that more practical and simple, talking about f-16 is stolling!

@GefreiterKania


So is Russia. Maybe not to the degree that Ukraine is, but certainly in a similar manner. Russia was facing a demographic collapse in the 2030s before Covid hit and now a war that killed, maimed and forced into migration up to a million Russian men.

Its' fossil fuel oriented export economy was ill-equipped for the end of the fossil age in 10-15 years before the war cost them their best costumers, hundreds of bns in lost revenue and added more and more strain on their state budgets. Not to mention all the money needed to replenish Russian military losses that could have been used for better purposes.

No matter how this war ends, both countries will be incredibly affected by it.

We are not Saudi Arabia, or Kuwait. Russia existed for a long time before commercial oil exploration, and will exist for a long time after. In fact, many economists talk about the "Dutch Disease", and how Russia's economy is less effective because of being on the oil "needle".

Oil began to play a decisive role in the Soviet/Russian economy starting in the mid 1970s.

...the war longer and the death count higher. What a plan...You must be so proud...

BTW, I like those hedge words..."possibly"...smart.


Hey, Iron, I like you more and more...It may be bad for your reputation here but I can't lie.

When a country loses its instinct of self-preservation it's time to rethink things through again. The US is already on this trajectory and the sheep follow...Sad...


To refer to Ukraine and Russia today as countries is like calling Trabant and Bentley cars.

To your detriment, yes. Those countries were smart enough to invest money into alternative revenue systems that may allow them to further prosper. That is what Putin should have done in the 2000s and beyond, when the oil price was high. Instead he threw it all away for the ability to fight a ruinous war in Ukraine.

wow you trying to talk sense to a new yorker russia propgandist? good luck.

He learned it from America. We throw away one trillion a year to be the dumbest world cop ever while our borders are wide open and bridges are falling apart.

Almost forgot...65% of Americans living p2p with 500 bucks for emergencies...Yeah, that is smart...with half of the world's MBAs and other financial geniuses right here..

pax americana, love it, before it's gone. then the civil war begins and all hell breaks loose. also tell your grandaughters to learn mandarin and bow before a han chinese.

History teaches us each time Russia devours Ukraine, we're next. Why would we help Russia bring forth our demise?

Only morons don't learn from history. Polish politics is based on the safeguarding of our sovereignty. In our proximity there is only one country that has consistently thretened it throughout the ages: Russia in its numerous mutations (imperial, soviet, current cleptocratic). That's why we're doing a lot to stop Russia in Ukraine.

but. but.. korea, vietnam , iraq, don't u realise it's so relevant? what happened in My Lai means that the ruskis can do what they want in ukraine. get it?

Stop stammering, I am not such a scary ape as you believe. Ha!


Darling, we are talking about Polish gov policy towards Ukrainian refugees. Ha!


Tell it to that nazionalistische boy Iron. :):)

No doubt.

However, for Russia it's a mistake that will cost them dearly but for Ukraine it's nothing short of a national disaster, comparable only to Holodomor in terms of population and economic losses.


... and still is. A country that wants to be a superpower but at the same time has population lower than Java Island, should definitely be less prodigal with its human resources.


They might have money now, but when oil is no more then we will see what their "alternative revenue systems" are worth. I would still strongly suspect that in foreseeable future Russia will have more chances of development than Arab countries. Even today, it is Arabs, not Russians, who are hanging head-down from Polish border fences.

Besides, Slavic people are very resourceful, hard working and intelligent. For example, take a look at the latest issue of "Kwant" magazine for Russian schoolchildren...

kvant.mccme.ru/pdf/2023/2023-07.pdf

... you don't really have to know Russian - mathematics is a universal language. That's what Russian schoolchildren eat for breakfast :) Is there an Arab "al-Kwant" journal? :) Perhaps there is, but still I am confident that Russians - with more efficient government (perhaps we should try 1612 scenario, but in a more peaceful, mutually beneficial way?) can still use their immense potential and resources to become a power to be reckoned with.

Everyone enchanted with "Kwant" - take a look here...

kvant.mccme.ru/index.htm

... and feast :)


History wasn't exactly your favourite subject at school, was it?

Guys today its been 84 years to the day the Russians invaded Poland in order to meet up with their Nazi allies. What a time to be alive.