Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

....my English is truly horrible! :(

*takes helmet*

You are so right...Germany loves buying gas and oil from other sources. Just ask BB.


...or for Russia to end this misery for them. My bet is that many in the West silently pray for this moment.

It is not... I just don't understand why you see such a contradiction between the idea of people wanting to be reunited with Russia and on the other hand also being concerned for their and their children's livelihoods.

To me, the two can exist simultaneously. If a referendum is the fairest way to settle this conflict, then I believe that the choice really must be "fair" as well. That is all.

We don`t care about those Russophiliac renegades and degenerates. Let them fly to the infinity and beyond and never come back! Ha!


But Germany doesn`t make the whole WEST yet:):):)

Exactly, Russians managed to screw up the traditional Ukrainian Russian bond so well. Thank you, Putin - you are a great strategist after all. hahahaha buhahahaha

I wonder if Poles shouldn`t start saying prayers for Putin.:):):)


Helmut, to be more precise.

...but got fu*cked the most because it's on a US leash and gets orders to participate in a war that has nothing to do with Germany. No, Russia does not plan to invade Germany. Russia was very happy to trade with Germany.

Germans think different and haven`t dissolved their army yet. What is more, they promise to invest billions into it. :):):)

I don't know if you've noticed it yet (since russians seem to have no 'theory of mind'.... is that collective autism or a pre-modern mentality?)

Anyhoo.... don't know if you've noticed it yet but an overwhelming majority of Ukrainians have made it clear they do not want to be associated with russia...

In the meantime, it's being (unofficially) reported that the cammnder of the russia's Black Sea fleet (such as it is....) is worm food! Plus good! Sokolov was vermin who'd carried out many attacks on civilians.... and surely will be indicted on war crimes if he hasn't improved the world by no longer fouling it with his presence....

And the fire at the headquarters took 9 hours to extinguish... so..... yeah....

Here is a photo of a missile headed straight for the headquarters (which had already been hit once)

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1705283507549765739

A pleasant note

Why would Russia invade Germany?
BTW, by their own admission, the German army is a joke.

Don`t ask me. Ask Germans why they still keep their army and even plan to make it much stronger. Crazy????? hahahaha


Not so fast. Supplied with thousands Panzerfausts, they will still kick Russian ass in Berlin and other cities.

Yes, and now the former commander of the Black Sea Fleet is calling for strikes against the Ukrainian General Staff HQ and Ministry of Defense building.

I don't know why people are telegraphing to Ukraine what targets they would like to strike... In any case, if in 18 months Putin has not authorized strikes against the Ukrainian military and intelligence command, I don't know what has to happen for him to do it.

I understand that he gave a promise not to kill Zelensky. I even agree with this policy, because it's better to allow him to discredit himself with the population (which he is doing quite well), than to make him into a martyr. But why on Earth is Putin afraid to strike the other decision making centers? If Ukraine had the capability to strike at the Kremlin with a missile, they would have done it long ago. They already used drones to attack the Kremlin and MoD building on the Frunze embankment. It doesn't matter that those attacks did no damage, since it is clear there was intent.

This Mickey Mouse approach to avoiding strikes in central Kiev is really bewildering. The first thing the Americans did at the beginning of the invasion of Iraq was execute strikes on the Presidential Palace, the HQ of the Main Intelligence Directorate, and the HQ of the Ministry of Defense. Then they knocked out a series of power plants, and brought down several strategic bridges. I'd love to see some of this happen, at least on the 18th month of this war, but I won't be holding my breath.

P.S. - One possible reason I can think of, for avoiding strikes on targets in central Kiev, is that some Western intelligence agents or military officers may be sitting in those buildings - assisting the Ukrainians through consultation. But then, I feel that's their problem, no? Why should we work to keep uniformed Westerners safe? Killing mercenaries is ok, but if it's a guy in uniform it's a potential escalation? Stupid.

Don`t be silly. If he could, he would but can`t coz Ukrainians deploy their military command wisely so Russians are helpless. While Russian deployment is a joke so Ukrainians have a free hand, sort of. Besides, how many Russian missiles could been fired against such targets in Kyiv but were shot down by Ukrainians?


Repeat - don`t be silly. Russians already attacked foreign volunteer bases before. In Jawornik or sth.

According to Surkov (one of the architects of putain's russia... if you don't know who he is... you're very uninformed) invading and conquering other places is an inalieable part of russian identity.

And if you didn't believe me...

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1705212185054482598

best comment on that: " >50% of finance going to war and domestic suppression efforts. It's full nazi warmachine, no serious civilian infrastructure, schooling or healthcare investments"

On the other hand, most of it will probably be stolen just like most of the money earmarked for improving the russian military for the last 20 years... good thing for Ukraine that russians are so dishonest...

Pure imperialistic obsession.
When will Russians be cured of it at last? Will the war in Ukraine be such a remedy for them???

Stay tuned to find out more on the changes in Russian mentality!!!! hahahahaha

Yes, they did. And it was a clear warning to Putin to spare Kyiv headquarters coz if Russians try to attack them, Ukrainians will retaliate on Putin himself. He isn`t stupid.

It was.If Russians bite,Ukrainians can bite back!

Everything you claim is a warning to Putan yet nothing changes.. Its a quagmire, exactly what Biden wants. He gives the Ukrainians just enough to keep the war going thats all.

Heres a clue: Its about time the EU stepped up and actually did something except talking $hit from the sidelines!

@Joker

Sorry mate, but I think you are wrong here.It's not about The EU anymore, because the two biggest aid donors have been the USA and the UK, neither of which are EU members.The EU has been fairly pathetic in their aid to Ukraine,except for Poland.

Poland's aid to Ukraine has been phenomenal!

I think Biden wants Russia to lose very much, if not for any other reason than that such a foreign policy success would improve his chances vs any Republican challenger during next year's elections.

Biden's problem is that he is President of the United States. Unlike Lithuania, Poland, or the UK - basically those "independent" countries (because nothing depends on them) - the United States shoulders an immense responsibility for world stability.

The UK can happily provide cruise missiles, and others can provide fighter jets - knowing full well that they are under the protection of the United States. At the same time, who will protect the United States if it enters into a nuclear exchange with Russia?

Biden cannot afford the careless actions of some European allies, because he bears a real responsibility for avoiding a nuclear Armageddon. Scholz is wise in this regard, because he only takes action after he sees the United States leading the way. In this sense, Germany can avoid being seen as a dangerous provocateur, and is instead viewed merely as a reluctant supplier of aid (nobody can blame them for this, given their history), but still a fundamentally loyal ally.

I think after Biden drummed up more than a hundred billion dollars in weapons and financial aid, it is very difficult to accuse him of attempting to draw things out.

And so does most of the rest of the world.And they will lose and be humiliated.
Russia has bitten off far more than it can chew,
I think that you overstate the USA's role in this conflict and underestimate the nuclear power of the UK and France,
Russia will never nuke Europe because the UK and France, even without the USA can obliterate it.

NATO bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrad and nothing happened.

I feel your frustration.


Russia cannot conquer Europe using conventional forces, either, but Poland acts like this is exactly Russia's plan.


We should not change presidents in the middle of a war will be their slogan.

So, you trying to say that polish national armed forces enjoys to leave something similar to this photo behind?

tn.fishki.net/26/upload/post/2017/08/22/2362827/bf8c48a142c5e5b6d576fc0e55d6f261.jpg

Memo to the Russians on PF:
Don't waste your time on blockheads and clowns. You already know who they are.

There are many here who have the belief that some varieties of clowning should be punishable by a bullet to the medulla oblongata. The time for that may yet come.

@Velund

Hey Velund,

Don't you think it's absolutely amazing how fast Poles are becoming disillusioned with their new Ukrainian "brothers"? Last year, when I was telling them that sooner or later they will discover what amazing friends they acquired in the Ukrainians (who needs enemies when you have friends like Ukraine) - I myself could not imagine that in 18 months Duda would be comparing them to a drowning man that takes his rescuer with him.

Makes me think that we Russians are perhaps too patient a people. It took us decades to realize they are ungrateful pigs... and it took the Poles less than two years.

Given how hot-blooded our Polish friends are, perhaps in as little as two more years, Poland will declare its own Specjalna Operacja Wojskowa? Hahaha!

All those HIMARS and K2 will actually get used!

You fault, Bobko. You grossly overestimated their ability to detect sarcasm. They are only good at poetry, metaphors, and heroism.
Duda is an exception.

What we need now is a Duda-Merkel press conference with the working title: Now the truth...

Yes, Duda is very special case...

Duda's ancestors are Ukrainians from the Lviv region. The Polish president's great-uncle Michal Duda is a legendary figure for modern Ukrainian neo-Nazis. Mykhailo Duda was born in 1921 into a family of rural intellectuals, ardent Ukrainian nationalists. Duda's elder comrade in studies and in life was Stepan Bandera, who often visited Duda's native village. At the age of 16, Duda joined the OUN. In 1939 he studied sabotage and terrorism in Hitler's Germany - together with the future leader of the UPA Roman Shukhevich. Since 1941, the fate of the relative of the Polish president was connected with the punitive battalion of the Abwehr "Roland".

Having distinguished himself in the massacre of the families of Red Army officers who went to the rear, in the fall of 1941 Michael Duda was again together with Roman Shukhevich - in Belarus, in the 201st battalion of the SS subordinate to the SS Schutzmannschaft (auxiliary police). In battles with the Red Army and partisans, the battalion showed poor combat qualities. But it distinguished itself in massacres of civilians in Belarus, in particular in burning alive people in locked huts and barns. At the end of 1942 Duda's battalion, disbanded by the Germans, moved to Volyn and Galicia, becoming part of the UPA. Official Ukrainian historians claim that the UPA waged guerrilla warfare against the Germans and the Red Army. In reality, Roman Shukhevych's thugs, pretending to resist the Germans, carried out Hitlerite orders to kill the peaceful population of Ukraine, which could assist Sidor Kovpak's partisans advancing across Ukraine and Belarus. Andrzej Duda's great-uncle participated in these war crimes. Duda stayed in the ranks of the UPA until the defeat of Hitler's Germany. In 1947, Duda fled through Czechoslovakia to West Germany, to the American occupation zone. He was recruited along with other fugitive Bandera fighters by the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (the future CIA) for sabotage and terrorist activities against the Soviet Union.

Mikhail Duda's life ended on July 7, 1950. An agent introduced by the Soviet MGB into the UPA's foreign environment* spread disinformation that Roman Shukhevich, who was allegedly fighting in the Soviet underground, wanted to meet with the UPA leaders settled in the FRG (in fact, Shukhevich was liquidated near Lvov on March 5, 1950). On May 31, 1950, Duda and three other UPA bandits were thrown out by parachute in the forests near Stanislav (Ivano-Frankivsk). During the ejection Duda broke his leg and could hardly walk. The saboteurs were spotted by local peasants. On July 7, when Duda's group was hiding in rural barns and forest thickets, a MGB search party came upon the UPA bandits. Not wanting to fall into the hands of Soviet justice, a relative of the future Polish president shot himself.

What for? Western Ukraine? The vipers' nest is the last thing we want or need.


Fake news, Veli. Duda's grandfather - Alojzy Duda - was a furrier, he lived his life peacefully in Stary Sącz and died in 1992. What's the point of spreading fake news that are so easily checked and debunked?

The Ukrainian nazi that you mentioned was an impotent (as so many of them are) and he had no children.



demagog.org.pl/fake_news/dziadek-andrzeja-dudy-ukrainskim-nacjonalista-fake-news-wraca/

Is it the Russian embassy or the US embassy in Poland that is allocating unlimited funds for the promotion of LGBT propaganda trying to encourage Polish men to "vaccinate" each others dupa?

t.me/hotptakes/6673

The American Embassy reported that the official goal is the promotion of homosexuality and transvestites in Poland and that they have a lot of money at their disposal for that goal.

Once you destroy the traditional Polish family which is the cornerstone of the Polish state, then you can control Poland. This is the globalists aim.

And how do you propose to do that?

There is no amount of money that anyone could pump into "promotion of homosexuality and transvestites in Poland" to achieve that. An absolute non-issue.

How much would the American Embassy have to pay you, Crno, to stop thinking about women, abandon your wife and family and start sodomizing your male friends? There's no such sum of money? You would never do that? So why do you think Polish men are different than you? :)