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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8



pawian
29 Dec 2023  #1621

than a man needing a woman to be less so he can be more.

Yes, those losers dream of being masters while they are azholes and women perfectly know it.

pawian
29 Dec 2023  #1622

unidentified flying object over Poland

It already left Polish air space.

johnny reb
29 Dec 2023  #1623

a man needing a woman to be less so he can be more.

I guess you have never heard the proverb, a woman can make you or break you.
A good woman supports her man, not insist on "wearing the pants."
Man up, put the pants on and quit listening to their woman's lib woke fodder.
Now I am done here because you are totally off-topic.

Bratwurst Boy
29 Dec 2023  #1624

*enjoys the mud slinging in Random*

Hach ja....it's so nice to know that in this cruel world at least PF stays at it always was....

*wipes happy tear from eye, gets popcorn and a beer*

Torq
29 Dec 2023  #1625

@johnny_reb

I'm just trying to explain to you what real men enjoy. :)

@BB

Ha ha ha ha! That's why we love PF, isn't it? :)

Bratwurst Boy
29 Dec 2023  #1626

...that's why we always come back! :)

Lenka
29 Dec 2023  #1627

there is nothing more pathetic than a man needing a woman to be less so he can be more.

Hey, is it really you?
Wow, well said.

mafketis
29 Dec 2023  #1628

Outlawing or banning the Russian language in Ukraine is stupid

Agree, which is why that never happened.... there was a shift toward greater government use of Ukrainian but russian was never banned and if you think it was then you're an RT believing sap....

in the USSR people could use Ukrainian in some spheres but had to know russian as well, free and independent Ukraine wanted to change the roles - people could use russian in some spheres but needed to know Ukrainian as well.

the amount of distortions and lies created about that simple state of affairs was and is impressive....

Torq
29 Dec 2023  #1629

Hey, is it really you?

Yip. The same Christian, conservative, family man who thinks that it's not good for men and women to be alone, and that men are generally better at providing and women are generally better at creating and upkeeping the domestic fire.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it, Johnny. :)

Ironside
29 Dec 2023  #1630

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it, Johnny. :)
@ Torq

I think there is a misunderstanding between you and Johnny, you talk more or less the same but you both assume things.

amiga500
29 Dec 2023  #1631

and if you think it was then you're an

Let me educate you mr mafketis. Zelensky was elected on a peace platform, of giving more autonomy to the Donbass (ie Federalisation) and allowing Russian to be used officially in Ukraine. Unfortunately the far right descendants of OUN-B, backed by Poroshenko were dead set against it. Also tied to the Ukraine World Congress. They said any deal with Russia over Crimea and Donbass is a betrayal of the Ukrainian fatherland. Despite only getting 5 percent of the vote (20 percent in Lviv) they have people on the streets that are ultras, hooligans , don't mind Hitler. Also lots of weapons and they love violence.

There is video footage of one of the leaders of this far right Ukri faction, that got elected to parliament saying if Zelensky does a peace deal with Russia we will deal with him like a traitor ie hang him from a tree.

There is actual video footage of Zelenskyy going to the Donbass and being humiliated, pleading with the far right volunteer battalions to abide by agreed ceasefire. they just ignored him, after all he's just an actor.

Ukranian World Congress/OUN-B/Poroshenko wanted to go all in, put everything on black, well now they f*cked. Game over. Don't poke the bear. Poland had the western betrayal , now it's Ukraine's turn.

amiga500
29 Dec 2023  #1632

Also what the Yemeni Houthi rebels are doing, pretty much blockaded the whole red sea/suez canal is not just about Gaza, Russia is playing a hidden hand. So now the world shipping trade has to go around the horn of africa, adding 15-20 percent to shipping costs. Expect another inflation crisis. That's what Russia and China want, to break down the western economic order, and the longer this Ukri war goes on, the better chance they have at doing it.

The Americans and Europeans are actually talking about using frozen assets from private russian individuals to fund the war against russia. Who in the 200 countries on Earth is ever going to trust and invest in western capitalism if that ever happens? again game over but in a much worse way.

mafketis
29 Dec 2023  #1633

giving more autonomy to the Donbass (ie Federalisation)

Giving 'autonomy' to a region that has been invaded by a country that doesn't want your country to exist is an extremely dumb idea....

'federalization' was a way that russia wanted to interfere in Ukraine (because degenerate russians interfere anywhere they can).

how many 'far right' members of the Ukrainian parliament have there been?

Bobko
29 Dec 2023  #1634

'federalization' was a way that russia wanted to interfere in Ukraine (because degenerate russians interfere anywhere they can).

Newsflash!!!

Russia is organized as a federation. Just like the United States.

Just as Xi Jingping is not able to appeal directly to Californians, in a bid to peal them away from Washington... Biden has not had much success appealing to the inhabitants of the Republic of Tatarstan, or the Khanty-Mansiyskiy Autonomous Okrug.

Treat your people decently, and a federation is no more an invitation to chaos than a coalition government within a parliamentary democracy.

For Ukraine, a federated structure was and is a perfect solution. It lets the people that have closer ties to Russia, develop life in their regions as they see fit, without interference from the nutcases in Lvov.

Velund
29 Dec 2023  #1635

but russian was never banned

Imagine that nobody try to ban Polish in Poland. Just required by law to any magazine and newspaper to have authentic ukrainian version, and print exactly the same run. If you sell million polish newspapers, print the same quantity of ukrainian - and it is your problem how much it will cost you and what you will do with resulting crap.

This was one of examples how "russian was never banned".

Torq
29 Dec 2023  #1636

This was one of examples

Hey, we've had to deal with similar cr*p from Lithuanians for years: banning the Polish spelling of names and surnames, constant fighting about bilingual signs in the areas with Polish majority (yes, majority not minority), administrative interference with Polish language teaching etc. etc. Horribly annoying, especially that their minority enjoy full rights in Poland.

But you don't see us invading Lithuania because of that, even though Wojsko Polskie would roll over f*cking Samogitia with much ease. Simply, in the 21st century, there are better and more civilised ways of solving problems than "special military operations", Veli. And if Russia doesn't understand it we will have a horrible war that nobody wants and everybody half-expects to happen. :-/

Bratwurst Boy
29 Dec 2023  #1637

Simply, in the 21st century, there are better and more civilised ways of solving problems than "special military operations"

FUSSBALL!!!

Okay...umm.....

*goes back to watching the old records of the WC games from Brazil 2014*

Torq
29 Dec 2023  #1638

FUSSBALL!!!

Hmm... let's say volleyball. ;)

Bratwurst Boy
29 Dec 2023  #1639

...let's say! :)

mafketis
29 Dec 2023  #1640

For Ukraine, a federated structure was and is a perfect solution.

For russian degenerates who enjoy killing civilians maybe... for sane people..... no.

there are better and more civilised ways of solving problems than "special military operations"

Wasting your breath talking about 21st century approaches to people with a system stuck in the 19th century... it's possible that russia will work past it's pathetic need for 'empire' but it's going to take a long time

Novichok
29 Dec 2023  #1641

The only empire out there is NATO.

mafketis
29 Dec 2023  #1642

only empire out there is NATO.

Nope... you lose.... again!!!!! Countries actively seek out chances to join NATO which is very un-empire-like....

And it's great! NATO rules, you loser!!!!!

russia is a degenerate country retreating into greater and greater savagery.... what a loser country, liked only by losers.

Bratwurst Boy
29 Dec 2023  #1643

The only empire out there is NATO.

Don't forget Russia has sided with Hamas and other Anti-Westerners.....let's hope NATO is really as powerful as an Empire or the future looks bleak!

Velund
29 Dec 2023  #1644

But you don't see us invading Lithuania because of that

Let's wait until samogitian air forces will launch unguided missiles to a civilians in a polish majority regions? Just like it was made to russian majority region (namely Donetsk) about decade ago...

Velund
29 Dec 2023  #1645

Don't forget Russia has sided with Hamas and other Anti-Westerners.....

After NATO provided AFU with a full range Storm Shadow missiles and used their reconnaisance drones to make attack to a Feodosia possible, you can expect many news in a nearest future. For example Houthis with a satellite intelligence, decent anti-air defense and modern anti-ship missiles, or IRA with a lot of NATO weapons and motivation to solve their problems in our lifetime. ;) Maybe Taiwanian rebels, too...

Proxy war is much more interesting if it is game for two... Or for three...

cms neuf
29 Dec 2023  #1646

What do you think the IRA would do with a load of crappy 1950s era soviet weapons ? They put down their weapons long ago and are now mainly in the cocaine trade or running nightclubs.

The Houthis ? Will not be firing at any American ships.

Stop with the childish threats - your stone age armaments don't impress anyone. Something you will find out when you finally fight in the actual war, rather than the internet war.

Miloslaw
29 Dec 2023  #1647

Whilst I agree with most of your post.

What do you think the IRA would do with a load of crappy 1950s era soviet weapons ?

Kill people......

Novichok
29 Dec 2023  #1648

Countries actively seek out chances ....

...to become part of the NATO empire.

What is the best definition of empire?
An empire is an aggregate of many separate states or territories under a supreme ruler or oligarchy.


If you missed it...The US is the supreme ruler with its MICC that like hyenas in a zoo needs to be fed daily.

Joining NATO is a three-step operation:

1. Provoke Russia into a war. Check.
2. Russia goes to war. Check.
3. Finland get scared and joins NATO. Check.

Novichok
30 Dec 2023  #1649

Putin 'tried everything possible' to make peace - Ukrainian diplomat

The possibility of compromise was "very real" in April 2022, a key negotiator from Kiev's side has said

Russian President Vladimir Putin personally sought a peace agreement with Ukraine in April 2022, according to Ambassador Aleksandr Chaly, a senior member of the Ukrainian delegation.


That Ukrainian diplomat is a damn liar according to the PF Russia experts who know what Putin thinks before he does.

amiga500
30 Dec 2023  #1650

The Houthis ? Will not be firing at any American ships.

Seems like the ruskis are considering arming the Houthis to strike a British ship though, things possibly look like they are going to get way out of hand.

english.pravda.ru/hotspots/158582-russia_uk_destroyer_diamond/


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