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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



amiga500
21 Feb 2024  #1711

Proposal one: After new borders are established make it clear that _any_ violation of those borders is tantamount to declaring war against NATO/

Sounds reasonable. Then the buffer state is the areas captured by russia

jon357
21 Feb 2024  #1712

the areas captured by russia

Them conceding territory must be a non-negotiable prerequisite of any future discussions.

Girkin's anxiety level raising.....

I wonder what his life insurance premiums would be..

I must have a 12 inch penis

Mustn't we all.

mafketis
21 Feb 2024  #1713

And russian collaborator Yevgeny Balitski casually confesses to a bunch of war crimes and hints at others....

twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1760154124958449971

cms neuf
21 Feb 2024  #1714

The EU finally getting some backbone back with more sanctions and including Turks, Indians and Chinese who do business with Udmurtia - European markets are not open to these entities anymore - they were given enough warning.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1715

Russian opposition is useless.

At least Russia has opposition. The US RINOs are just a prop. See? We are a democracy and even have an opposition party..."Communist" Poland had two parties, too, and elections every four years.

Remember when Trump and Congress were all RINO in 2017 and 2018? What have they done then? Did they close any useless gov departments? Or shut down bs programs? How about that wall? 47 miles in 2 years...

Bitching about Russia is easy when one is a dumb Polak.

The EU finally getting some backbone back

When exactly did the EU have that backbone?

Was it when they posted "Muslims, Welcome!!!" signs all over Europe, or when they made saying "Muslims, Go to Hell" a crime?

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1716

The EU finally getting some backbone

Not even Hungary did step out on this!

The EU imposes new sanctions on Russia on the second anniversary of the war in Ukraine. Representatives of the 27 member states agreed on Wednesday in Brussels to significantly expand the list of people and entities whose assets in the EU must be frozen.

.....In addition, a total of around 2,000 people responsible for the war in Ukraine would then be on the European sanctions list. According to EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell, almost 200 names will be added.....


And that could proof interesting long-term once they ran out of stock:

...The news agencies dpa and AFP unanimously reported, citing diplomatic information, that companies that contribute to Russia's military and technological strengthening or to the development of its defense and security sector should also be sanctioned. No more goods and technologies that can be used for military purposes can be sold to them from the EU. Among other things, European companies will be prohibited from trading with companies from mainland China that supply military-use goods to Russia .....

That could hurt China too, that means no more western tech to use also against Taiwan for example...

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1717

r*SSia must be defeated.

Go right ahead. What's stopping you? Russia not allowing faggots to recruit schoolchildren?
Here is an idea...Go the Red Square and scream: Faggots for Ukraine!!! r*SSia must be defeated!!! and you will very likely get the Nobel Prize for Peace.

Make sure that your idiotically childish spelling is up front and center to embolden Russian war opposition.

theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/21/barely-10-per-cent-of-europeans-believe-ukraine-can-defeat-russia-poll

Let me guess...Those 10-percenters are safely home instead of bravely fighting for Z...

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1718

When exactly did the EU have that backbone?

Usually I would agree....you know "....you and what army"!

But it seems the EU is really growing a backbone....and yes, we apparently have an army!

EU decides on military deployment in the Red Sea

tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/eu-marine-einsatz-rotes-meer-100.html

....The EU foreign ministers have finally approved the military operation "Aspides" in the Red Sea. European warships are supposed to protect merchant ships there from Houthi rebels. Germany also wants to participate.

The foreign ministers of the EU states have decided to start a new military operation to secure merchant shipping in the Middle East. This was confirmed by several EU diplomats to the dpa news agency in Brussels. The plan for Operation Aspides involves sending European warships to the Red Sea and neighboring sea areas. These are then intended to protect merchant ships there from attacks by the militant Islamist Houthis from Yemen......


...very interesting development!

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1719

that means no more western tech to use also against Taiwan for example...

What Western tech? Facebook or Google? We don't even make US flags at home.
All the tech is in China, Japan, SK, and Taiwan.

we apparently have an army!

The US had an army way back...The best one in the world...and still lost to peasants breathing through bamboo sticks when hiding underwater...

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1720

What Western tech?

Lotsa....it seems!

Sanctioned Western tech is still entering Russia and powering its military machine, new analysis shows

cnbc.com/2024/01/11/sanctioned-western-tech-is-still-entering-russia-and-powering-its-war.html

Russia continues to import large volumes of Western technology critical to its war against Ukraine, even as sanctions show some signs of taking hold, new analysis shows.

Western-origin technologies accounted for almost half of all Russian imports of critical components and "high-priority" battlefield goods in the first three-quarters of 2023, according to KSE Institute.

Included among the producers were various U.S. tech majors, with some of their trade values increasing versus 2022 levels.


and still lost to peasants

....yes, a true nightmare!

Hopefully we don't make the same errors....mainly that the actual peasants would be rather supportive this time!

jon357
21 Feb 2024  #1721

faggots

Faggots

You post about little else; a long-term obsession.

Russia continues to import large volumes of Western technology

Hence targeting the intermediaries will at least make that harder for r*SSia.

Also, the west needs to target any end users of their oil and gas.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1722

Western-origin technologies accounted for almost half of all Russian imports of critical components

So those "sanctions" are just for show and mainly against Russian girls who want to play tennis.
BTW, I knew that the US is more practical...Selling things to Russia and Ukraine at the same time...Totally brilliant...

make that harder

Hey...it's a family show...Never leaves your filthy mind...You seem obsessed...

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1723

Hence targeting the intermediaries

....also not to underestimate: The actual sanctions are seemingly easy to ignore and to bypass....as the CNBC article shows. This new "backbone" could and should also mean that this will become harder and much more difficult and dangerous for the culprits.

So those "sanctions" are just for show and mainly against Russian girls who want to play tennis.

That!

There is hope that changes now....

Selling things to Russia and Ukraine at the same time

German industries are notorious for that....

cms neuf
21 Feb 2024  #1724

They can play tennis at home, for Udmurtian levels of prize money, a handful of rapidly depreciating rubels and a bunch of flowers.

We have been hearing that sanctions don't work. Fine - so let"s keep making them tougher until they work.

The staff of the penal colony are among those sanctioned - they will never set foot in Europe again hopefully.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1725

they will never set foot in Europe again hopefully.

99% of Americans never set in Europe, either...Why should they? They can get robbed or see Muslims at home.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1726

German industries are notorious for that..

Notorious? Famous, brilliant, ingenious...
If A and B want to kill each other, it's only natural for C to make them happy and supply the tools...

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1727

it's only natural for C to make them happy and supply the tools...

....selling them to Russia makes them also available to Hamas and other raping, kidnapping, murdering, anti-western bastards!

Why are you so short-sighted?

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1728

Why are you so short-sighted?

I am just trying to be the best German I can be and finally get that German honorary citizenship.
Please remember that I wanted to be a lawyer and that lawyers almost never defend angels.

PolAmKrakow
21 Feb 2024  #1729

@Novichok
Its a shame when people dont read from multiple news sources isnt it? A typical trait of the leftists socialist clan. I find it funny now to read those same people posting how great their opinions are without actually looking at many points of view. Its terrible when their own leftist socialist publications print information that makes the other sides arguments sound rational. All Karen's may now stand up and scream in the mirror.

Imagine country "A" making rules to keep financial investment in their own country rather than give money or weapons to country "B". Country "B" then complains that country "A" should support them more instead of supporting their own. Now, is country "A" Poland or the USA?

pawian
21 Feb 2024  #1730

I am just trying to be the best German I can be and finally get that German honorary citizenship

Who from?? Hitler is long dead. So is Himmler.

Bratwurst Boy
21 Feb 2024  #1731

Please remember that I wanted to be a lawyer and that lawyers almost never defend angels.

...and I congratulate your perseverance!

cms neuf
21 Feb 2024  #1732

What are you on about PolAm ?

Should I use a Venn diagram or simultaneous equations to answer your dumb question ?

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1733

From Drudge:

President Biden to hit Russia with 'major sanctions' in response to death of Navalny

Translation:

Biden withheld "major sanctions" because so far he lacked justification as the 500,000 dead Ukrainians were not enough. But now that a Russian guy died in a Russian prison - just as Epstein did in the fed custody.- well...that changes everything and it's time to get really serious...I am sure Putin is having nightmares...

I love sarcasm as proof of intelligence and wit...

jon357
21 Feb 2024  #1734

The actual sanctions are seemingly easy to ignore and to bypass

Exactly. We need to get much tougher.

What are you on about PolAm ?

I doubt he knows himself.

Most of us probably look at multiple news sources.

PolAmKrakow
21 Feb 2024  #1735

@cms neuf
Going on about people thinking my cititation of the Guardian as a news source was somehow an upgrade to other news sources. And that the Guardian report was not flattering for their pro war position. I babbled a little bit about Karens to add more usless information to the conversation like others do. Nothing too complicated.

ConstantineK
21 Feb 2024  #1736

I have been away for some time. Are our polish friends still digesting Tucker's interview and mourning the fall of Avdeevka? :)
I am still waiting the moment when people of the West will "radicalise" against their governments. I totally believe this moment will come soon.

Ironside
21 Feb 2024  #1737

. Are our Polish friends still digesting Tucker's interview and mourning the fall of Avdeevka?

Well, I don't know who are you talking about, but myself being Polish I can tell you that I don't give an F about Tucker's interview and never did as to fall of Avd, there is nothing to mourn, you fighting your brothers Ukrainians keep doing that, If anything I sorry that Ukirnian government seems to be rather sloppy with managing that war.

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People of the West will "radicalize" against their governments.

It won't happen because of anything Russia does or could do but because the liberal elite went crazy with their policies and I mean green policies and agricultural policies, they should be shot or locked away.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1738

mourning the fall of Avdeevka? :)

Your Polish "friends" mourn Avdeevka becasue it's now harder to lie that Ukraine is "winning".
Your American friends welcome Avdeevka as the beginning of the end of this terrible war that took so many lives for bullsh*it I have so brilliantly presented as Z-P=0 two years ago.

pawian
21 Feb 2024  #1739

I babbled a little bit

and have become one of us at last - a true member of the PF. hahaha

mourning the fall of Avdeevka? :)

No, we are mourning the fall of 7 Russian advanced planes within 5 days. hahahaha

I am still waiting the moment when people of the West will "radicalise" against their governments.

Rabid imperial Russians have been waiting for this moment since the day they established the communist USSR.
Yet, it was the USSR which fell, not the West. hahahaha
Imperial Russians, get some intellect at last. Russia will radicalise and disintegrate first.

Novichok
21 Feb 2024  #1740

To make lying about U winning harder...

(Bloomberg) -- As Russia's war in Ukraine enters a third year, President Vladimir Putin's forces have shifted to the offensive and captured the eastern city of Avdiivka after months of fighting. In a conflict where momentum has ebbed and flowed, the mood is now noticeably darker in Kyiv.

President Volodymyr Zelenskiy changed his military leadership amid disputes over the conscription of new soldiers and battlefield strategy. His troops are running low on ammunition and weapons, with political infighting in Western capitals holding up deliveries and aid.


No, I am taking no pleasure in Ukrainian and Russian men dying...and I know how to spell Ukraine.


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