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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



Novichok
22 May 2024  #421

You, Poles, are sick puppies...Just look at your posts...all games...
You didn't google Poland Soviet liberated because you don't like the outcome...like a retarded kid...

Mr Grunwald
22 May 2024  #422

@Novichok
And you learn what words mean!
Inprisoned is not liberty!

Novichok
22 May 2024  #423

Inprisoned is not liberty!

The definition of "liberated" in 1945 was simple everybody alive then knew it: No Germans.

The extreme case of liberation was my beloved Red Army opening the gates of Auschwitz.

When the moment came, moron, not a single prisoner said: Oh, Russkies...I hate you...so I am staying...

Today, pseudo-intellectuals like you use some abstract concept to express their moral indignation at what they don't like...and ignore the fact that 6 billion people don't give a fvck about that academic liberty of yours only philosophers can discuss over wine and cheese.

The only thing I was not free to do in Poland was to just hop on the first train and get the fvck out. It took some finagling but I did it. The rest, like freedom of speech, I didn't give a damn.

BTW, I got my first communion and confirmation without any difficulties so no lectures about freedom of religion.

Name one country that has "liberty" plus your definition of "liberty". No BS essays, please...

Velund
22 May 2024  #424

Inprisoned is not liberty!

Wow! Finally, we got liberty expert here.

Can you write full and exhaustive liberty specification for us? Lots of people want to kill someone for liberty (even taking chance to die in process), but nobody offered full specs to build a liberty from scratch.

So, go ahead!

Miloslaw
22 May 2024  #425

Wow! Finally, we got liberty expert here

HaHaHaHa..... a Russian talking about liberty?

Russians don't even understand that word!

Novichok
22 May 2024  #426

Can you write full and exhaustive liberty specification for us?

Velund, you are a genius...Just like me...

a Russian talking about liberty? Russians don't even understand that word!

Why do you say stupid things like this? Your definition may be different but I am sure Russian definition will not be much different.

Russians, more than anyone, having lost 30 million people and millions before WW2, know what liberty is. The first sign you are free is the lack of fear when you you leave your home.

In that sense, I was free in "communist" Poland. If you are scared of being mugged or shot, all other freedoms are irrelevant. See NYC, Chicago, or Baltimore.

Velund
22 May 2024  #427

Russians don't even understand that word!

Looks like one more liberty expert. Unbelievable!

Start writing your own version of full liberty specification. It will be fun to compare with the one written by Mr Grunwald.

Novichok
22 May 2024  #428

It's hard to say something sensible when one is in a permanent bullshyt mode looking down from the High Moral Ground...We will see...

Mr Grunwald
22 May 2024  #429

@Novichok
Just because you were lucky and ignored does not mean the rest was.

If U.S.A was invaded by both Mexico and Canada, Mexico sat up immersive network of camps of death for native Americans and everyone who resisted due to some conspiracy theory. While Canada imprisoned ,tortured and killed off 20 000 American officers.

Then lost all it's gains to Mexico, after being able to "Liberate" America from Mexico, releasing prisoners from all forms of camps, then few weeks later use those same camps for similar purposes and having Native Americans killing and torturing Americans by Canadians. While simaltounasly removing property rights and stealing property one family after another.

I do not call that being "Liberated"

Just as same just exchange it with Germany splitting Russia with Japan and same scenario. Japan wouldn't liberate anything

And I won't see bullshit for truth like you two would have done or agree to it. As it would insult my intelligence to buy that kind of crap

Novichok
22 May 2024  #430

Definition of "liberty" first. Then we can bs.

Novichok
23 May 2024  #431

NATO state's PM calls for breakup of Russia
It is not a bad thing when a big power becomes much smaller, Estonia's Kaja Kallas has said


The conflict between Moscow and Kiev should end with the defeat and breakup of the Russian Federation, Estonia's Prime Minister Kaja Kallas has proposed.

Another wh*re for hire telling Putin what awaits Russia if he goes mellow.

Memo to Russia: Kill them faster and be done with this bullshyt...

PolAmKrakow
23 May 2024  #432

Liberty is the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views. Liberty is a personal choice, not something that can be provided by any government in my opinion. Liberty is defined more by societal norms and accepted behavior than government restrictions. I personally did not like the restrictions in the US and moved to Europe, my choice of liberty. Evweryone has that choice, many just never make it because they are too afraid to make changes in their lives.

Meanwhile, in the war, France and other idiot nations are trying to drag the US and other countries into the war. The UK fighting against Russia was a funny thought though, it would be like a toddler trying to fight a professional boxer. All the tough talk about beating Russia isnt helping Ukraine actually win the war. All the new weapons arriving in Ukraine every day are not helping either, as Russia gains more ground every day. Still Ukraine does not have enough men to match Russia, and Russia will just keep sending men no matter how many die. That kind of war cannot be won by Ukraine.

jon357
23 May 2024  #433

being free within society from oppressive restrictions

What "restrictions" count as "oppressive".

trying to drag the US

If their investors want access to financial or other markets, they'll work with us. If they can live without that access, they're free to isolate themselves.

I personally did not like the restrictions in the US

Perhaps you had more 'restrictions' than most for various reasons.

At least you agree that calling it "the land of the free" is bullsh1t.

cms neuf
23 May 2024  #434

Ukraine is fighting well against North Nigeria, so it's obvious that a better equipped and richer nation like the UK or France would easily be able to hold their own against such a corrupt and drunk army.

Tacitus
23 May 2024  #435

Ukraine is shooting down Russian planes almost daily at this point, and seems to have stopped Russia's offensive at Kharkiv. Despite receiving only somewhat limited Western military equipment. Imagine what they could do if they had e.g. 12 Patriot systems instead of 3 and and a sizeable number of modern fighting jets.

PolAmKrakow
23 May 2024  #436

@cms neuf
It would take Russia less than two hours to destroy the UK, and the UK could hit Russia with a small number of nukes. France is in the same position. All the tough talk is simply nonsense.

Anyone thinking Europe could hold off Russia on their own against a fully mobilized Russia simply isnt thinking clearly.

jon357
23 May 2024  #437

UK could hit Russia with a small number of nukes

Enough nukes with a high payload sufficient to put all their major cities and military installations under a metre of glass.

There is no doubt whatsoever that this would be their fate.

t a better equipped and richer nation like the UK or France would easily be able to hold their own against such a corrupt and drunk army.

The r*SSians know this very well. And their 'nukes' (all of them land-based) are in very large part too dangerous to regularly maintain, never mind attempt to prime and launch.

Novichok
23 May 2024  #438

Anyone thinking Europe could hold off Russia on their own against a fully mobilized Russia simply isnt thinking clearly.

This is where that mysterious "we" comes in...

Ukraine is fighting well against North Nigeria,

Those Ukrainian morons don't know that Nigeria is not their enemy. Hello...imbeciles...it's Russia, morons...Look to the East, not the South, azholes...and ignore that stupid Polak...

Russia will just keep sending men no matter how many die. That kind of war cannot be won by Ukraine.

I guess Napolean and Hitler were not enough to drive this point home...

Crow
23 May 2024  #439

NATO state's PM calls for breakup of Russia
It is not a bad thing when a big power becomes much smaller, Estonia's Kaja Kallas has said

So no wonder things escalating. Russia ready itself to use tactical nukes with destruction radius up to 500 km >

Russia: Moscow hold nuke drills near Ukraine | Breaking News | WION Pulse



Russia begins tactical nuclear weapons drills near Ukraine · FRANCE 24 English



Ironside
23 May 2024  #440

Just because you were lucky and ignored

Look, he lies. It is clear from the start that he lies about it.
In the 60' Communist Poland there was no way he could leave legally Communist Poland and as he says it was easy as pie.
The only people who could leave like that were those Jews that Commies wanted to get rid of at this stage.
Commie long-term agents
Some ethnic Germans were allowed to leave due to some or other agreement.
Any other person, a young person at that would have to have real connections with the Commie regime and backup high up to even stand a chance, and/or it would involve a lot of issues to be solved.

It wasn't I applied for a passport got it and /leave - that's a stupid lie. The system never worked like that.
He said he was 23 at the time right from his studies. What was his military service status? Everyone had to do two years in the /army or three years in the Navy.

Crow
23 May 2024  #441

I urge on Polish patriots to press the government of Poland to abandon NATO and adopt neutral policy on global military alliances, while isn`t too late.

In an ongoing NATO war against Russia, Russia would use nukes. Tactical ones for starter. After that, all bets are off. Many country won`t exist after the conflict. Let Poland survive.

cms neuf
23 May 2024  #442

We keep telling you Crow - we are not afraid of North Nigerian nukes. Even if they work.

Two years ago everyone was telling us we would die alone face down on a ventilator if we went to Biedronka. That was much more scary than a sudden nuclear strike.

Anyway the North Nigerian military will only use those in a defensive war.

Crow
23 May 2024  #443

We keep telling you Crow

You won`t convince me that you speak for all the Poles and all Slavs within Poland or for all the Polish and other Slavic children in Poland.

When first nuke fall on the ground of Poland, statehood of Poland won`t matter too much. Then, all who desire salvation, and will be many, would seek to separate from Poland, as they would see it- from failed Slavic state.

Kashubs, Silesians, Lusatians, Lemki. Polani themselves. You name it. In a matter of few days, Russia would prove that EU, NATO, Rome`s or Constantinople`s laws means nothing in a Slavic world. And there would be nothing to suggest otherwise. No voice in favor of survivor of Poland as a state. Not even from Serbia that is spiritual and moral force of the Slavic civilization. With Serbia itself pressed by official Poland, internal cohesive forces within Poland would weaken to the fatal level.

Yesterday, it could sound funny but, today, in the wake of nuclear holocaust because of irresponsible politicians, prospects seams more then realistic.

cms neuf
23 May 2024  #444

I don't

But North Nigerian spies and agents are very active in Poland and I am sure they will have picked up the general sentiment that we are not impressed or scared by their crappy old nukes.

Novichok
23 May 2024  #445

But North Nigerian spies and agents are very active in Poland

And Poland is too stupid to arrest them? I mean are Polaks so fvcking dumb that they can't spot black guys snooping around?

Velund
23 May 2024  #446

Putin authorized the use of U.S. property in Russia to compensate for damage caused by the seizure of Russian property in the United States

The President has signed a decree on a special procedure for compensating damage caused to Russia and the Central Bank by unfriendly actions of the United States.

Putin also authorized to go to court in case of unjustified deprivation of rights to property due to decisions of the US authorities and courts.

Alien
23 May 2024  #447

they can't spot black guys

... black are only ops, not people.

cms neuf
23 May 2024  #448

The only US assets still in North Nigeria are the cars and cellphones of a few loser Lord Haw Haw types who have been brainwashed into supporting Putler

Suckers like this

youtube.com/watch?v=trfIdowCpP8

Of course the sad thing is he will eventually be arrested and ransomed

Novichok
23 May 2024  #449

The only US assets still in North Nigeria

The US has no assets in Nigeria. That only ass I know of is you.

Are all Poles this stupid?

jon357
23 May 2024  #450

The only US assets still in North Nigeria are the cars and cellphones of a few loser Lord Haw Haw types

Plus a collection of failed office monkeys, hipster travellers and/or native speaker 'teachers' trapped there because they got a local woman pregnant, sleeping on somebody's. sofa and earning a few roubles by being treasonous online for Glavset or similar. Not just Yanks, but a few Aussies, Canucks, Kiwis and Brits too.

Their full names and bios are very well known to the authorities in their home countries.


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