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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



mafketis
26 May 2024  #601

They all lie, but RT is the worst offender.

The funny thing was thinking I think the Washington Post is a legitimate news source for anything about Ukraine... I keep up with Ukraine news mostly through twitter feeds of those on the ground (or at least cultural insiders who arent dumb as rocks which excludes anyone who thinks NATO 'expanded' or that there was a coup in Ukraine in 2014).

When I very occasionally click on some 'breaking' story in normie media (wherever it's from) .... it's inevitably something I've known for days.

PolAmKrakow
26 May 2024  #602

news.sky.com/story/russia-is-producing-artillery-shells-around-three-times-faster-than-ukraines-western-allies-and-for-about-a-quarter-of-the-cost-13143224

When you combine this information with the inadequate amount of manpower in Ukraine, you have no chance of winning.

jon357
26 May 2024  #603

you have no chance of winning

Given that Ukraine is strongly supported by Poland and all western democracies, are the people of Ukraine "you" or "we"?

And it's important to stand shoulder to shoulder against r*SSia to give Ukraine the tools to finish the job. If they were allowed to prevail in Ukraine, they will not stop there.

Crow
26 May 2024  #604

NATO and EU powers losing on all fronts. From the military fronts in what was once Ukraine to the diplomatic fronts in News York at UN sessions >

Daily news; acknowledged: "Diplomatic victory of Serbia in the UN"

"The resolution on Srebrenica was proposed by Germany ...... It was supported by 84 countries - less than expected, and this still speaks of Serbia's diplomatic victory

We saw numerous countries from the Latin American group, African groups... recognized themselves in the words of the Serbian president as to how "powerful Western countries shape international politics".

It's also interesting that China, which is proverbially restrained, voted against today, as did Hungary!"


cms neuf
26 May 2024  #605

North Nigerian shells are a quarter of the cost for a reason - they are 3x more crap. They are produced in the typical commie way, hit a production target so you don't go to prison but don't worry about quality.

North Nigerian forces are getting closer to mutiny - another summer away from their girlfriends fighting a pointless and dangerous war is not sustainable

jon357
26 May 2024  #606

hit a production target so you don't go to prison but don't worry about quality.

Back in the Soviet Union when people bought what few consumer goods that were available they always checked the label on the back that had the production date on. They chose things made in the middle of the month.

That was because the workers were so anxious about meeting their target that towards the end of the month they assembled things with bits missing or didn't solder things properly.

And at the start of the month? At the start, they'd got their bonus for meeting the target and spent in on vodka so they were paralytic at work.

mafketis
26 May 2024  #607

y always checked the label on the back

that sounds apocryphal not least because there were usually not enough things to go around and being able to pick and choose... didn't happen (esp since most stores like prl stores kept goods behind a counter where the proles couldn't get their grubby mits on it.....

Crow
26 May 2024  #608

Back in the Soviet Union

On the other side of the globe, in the USA and western European powers, people lived better, often aware and also unaware that their standard of living coming from the fact that their countries were colonial powers capable for looting the rest of humanity for centuries. In case of Catholic powers, even for thousand years. So people glorified their capable governments that were nothing but greedy elites, to say, vampires, that were lucky at some point of human history to seize the power and control wealth flow of this Earth.

But now, other powers emerged and yet to emerge and wealth on Earth is to be re-distributed and, controlled by many others, not by few of the past.

jon357
26 May 2024  #609

kept goods behind a counter

Sounds right. Though I bet they bribed the shop staff with a bit of kolbasa and some decomposing cabbage.

cms neuf
26 May 2024  #610

There are plenty of rich countries that were never colonial powers - Slovenia and Croatia for example.

But countries who don't turn their back on North Nigeria's medieval values will never be rich and will always be corrupt

Ironside
26 May 2024  #611

There are plenty of former colonial powers that are poor. Ergo colonialism is not a prerequisite to being successful or remaining successful and rich.

Velund
26 May 2024  #612

Though I bet

You lose...

jon357
26 May 2024  #613

Bollocks.

It was bribery central. And still is.

One of the most corrupt places outside Africa and rotten to the core.

Korvinus
26 May 2024  #614

msn.com/en-us/news/other/ukraine-s-atacms-wreak-havoc-deep-behind-russia-s-lines/ar-BB1n4qSM
Ukraine's ATACMS Wreak Havoc Deep Behind Russia's Lines​

Novichok
26 May 2024  #615

Last year, 400 people were arrested in Russia for what they said on social media.

In the same year, 3300 people were arrested in the UK for what they said on social media. Orwell would be proud.

In the US, NOBODY is arrested for what they said on the Internet. In the UK, I would be already serving life with no parole.

If 1984 ever becomes reality, it will be in the UK - and to the applause of smiling imbeciles...

Then in Canada and Australia...Evidently, God doesn't like these woke totalitarian shytholes...

cms neuf
26 May 2024  #616

Eh ? There isn't any social media in North Nigeria - Facebook, Instagram and the rest were banned in 2022.

Didn't they even ban google when Prighozin was driving his tractors to Moscow ?

Korvinus
26 May 2024  #617

Evidently, God doesn't like these woke totalitarian shytholes

And yet there are Russians who try to get there all the time. Weird.

jon357
26 May 2024  #618

3300 people were arrested in the UK

They weren't, and we're talking about r*SSia rather than your obsessions.

? There isn't any social media in North Nigeria - Facebook, Instagram and the rest were banned in 2022.

A country devoid of freedom of speech.

Crow
26 May 2024  #619

Stay calm people. Everything will be better in a new architecture of the multi-polar world.

Korvinus
26 May 2024  #620

If Russia loses this war, they would`t be able to bully its neighbors. There is any other propose in Russian existence other than bullying its neighbors and playing the victim if they defend themselves?

the multi-polar world.

Would be funny if Russia gets its desired multipolar world, but failing and breaking apart and Muscovites in the sphere of influence of Poland. hu3hu3hu3

Crow
26 May 2024  #621

@Korvinus

Brate Korvine, if you have at least a drop of Polish blood in your veins, you should know that if Serbians are with Russians on this one, Russians are right side. So, don`t complicate.

Would be funny if Russia gets its desired multipolar worl

Russia? You talk as if we Serbians aren`t interested in multi-polar world. As if Poles aren`t interested in multi-polar world. Do you plan to be eternal slave and servant of the Rome, Brussels, Bonn, Paris and Washington?

You think that Poland if have project with Hungary and Serbia, needs to ask Germanics, Anglos or papacy for permission?

cms neuf
26 May 2024  #622

Being a slave of Bonn and Washington sure feels a lot nicer than the days of Communism.

A beautiful sunny Dzien Matki here and the streets are full of well dressed young families on their way to restaurants and parks - sometimes in nice new cars.

What a contrast to the awful living standards in Omsk

Korvinus
26 May 2024  #623

As if Poles aren`t interested in multi-polar world.

In a multi-polar world, the poles would be Europe, North America, East Asia, and some Arab structure. Russia wouldn't be a pole, it would be a battlefield. It would be Third World, where the polarities fight each other for influence.

There's just not enough dudes, not enough money, and not enough influence in Russia for it to be a Great Power in that way. The only reason Russia is mostly left alone is the Pax Americana. Americans join every war that starts, so few wars start. If the world was truly multipolar, there'd be more war, and this would not be to Russia's advantage. Russia basically is as armed as it can get, meanwhile China, Europe, even USA itself, can get much more armed if there was need for it.

Russia can only be a player within a wider European coalition, or it can be China's socks. It can't be a thing in of itself.

Novichok
26 May 2024  #624

meanwhile China, Europe, even USA itself, can get much more armed if there was need for it.

Russia is armed enough. Proof: Russia is still killing Ukrainians for the hundreds every day and NATO is powerless to do shlt about.

Question: How many more Ukrainians have to die before Western Europe attacks Russia to stop the slaughter?

I know, asking Polish cowards for numbers is so...what's the word... uncouth... They prefer poetry and metaphors because it's easier to wiggle their Polish asses out of those...

Numbers are a lot harder...

mafketis
26 May 2024  #625

In a multi-polar world

It's already been described.... in the book 1984 (although in the book it was the Chinese and not the russians who devolved into a death cult).

Why this is supposed to be a good thing is never explained....

Novichok
26 May 2024  #626

Russia is still killing Ukrainians for the hundreds every day

I hate that autocorrect...

Crow
26 May 2024  #627

Russia is still killing Ukrainians for the hundred

There are worse things then death. Serving to the dark side, for one.

If we Serbians ever turn to the Pope, I would welcome swift death. Life in betrayal of ancestors would be truly agonizing. Walk along the dark path.

Novichok
26 May 2024  #628

I would welcome swift death.

Don't say such things. Leave swift death for the Western volunteers in Ukraine. I rejoice when they die a swift death.

Crow
26 May 2024  #629

I just mentioned in the other thread how Serbian experts see development considering signals from terrain and what Russian military says. Next stage is bombing with tactical nukes and thermobarics along the wide front line and then advance of specialized force for atomic warfare and tanks. Then again and again and again. Somebody tries to threaten their advancing force with reciprocity, Russians would use ICBM on enemy Capital cities. Then again and again and again, as long as Russians want.

mafketis
26 May 2024  #630

Serbian experts

oxymoron

tactical nukes and thermobarics along the wide front line and then advance of specialized force for atomic warfare and tanks.

you a bunch of bloodthirsty sobs, aren't you?


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