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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



Torq
1 Jun 2024  #931

why Russia should capture such big cities as Kharkov or Kiev?

Well, if you're thinking about Berlin (and there's Warsaw on your way there too), then you should first practice on something smaller like Kharkiv, no?

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #932

In fact, there's a lot holding him back, he's just pretending.

100,000 homeless in New York City is not my imagination.

27 months into this war and you haven't even reached Kharkiv.

I find this a disappointment, too...We, Americans, want quick results.

Hey, Tacitus, how do you like that picture with the Soviet flag...You guys were so damn close to Moscow to hang yours...


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Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #933

We will be loosing this war even standing in Berlin.

Hey!

....you know....Berlin too isn't what it once was.....you would be disappointed....so....

Hey, Tacitus, how do you like that picture with the Soviet flag

I guess, he doesn't care....he is from the Ruhrgebiet (he said so himself).

Berlin never was very popular in unified Germany (outside from us Berliners and honorary Prussians of course:)

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #934

....you know....Berlin too isn't what it once was.....you would be disappointed....so....

youtube.com/watch?v=NyFZDbrn3Uw&pp=ygU10LPQu9Cw0LLQvdC-0LUg0YfRgtC-0LEg0LTQviDRgdGD0L_QsCDQvdC1INC00L7RiNC70L4%3D

Hauptsache, es kommt nicht auf die Suppe an...

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #935

Hauptsache, es kommt nicht auf die Suppe an...

Na ja....I dunno if the comparison in this video holds.....this time it's Germany with all the support and Russia against (nearly) the world...look at our allies, the situation right now is actually turned on it's head. Could be an interesting outcome...

Not to mention that the Jews are widely hated again....but supported by Germany....

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #936

world...look at our allies,

:))))))

Tacitus
1 Jun 2024  #937

@Bratwurst Boy

look at our allies, the situation right now is actually turned on it's head

I'd call it learning from mistakes.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #938

That just fits! :)

youtube.com/shorts/vHpl7Bw3F5E

Maybe Germany will win....this once.....

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #939

Not to mention that the Jews are widely hated again

As a reasonable German, one day please explain to me why Germany, after inflicting 27 million deaths in the USSR, would not at least stay away from this BS in Ukraine and make Germany number one in your foreign policy and tell everybody else to get fvcked - Poland and the US included. Trust me...Germany is safe because Russia is not stupid.

So why make 140 million Russians hate you again after they almost forget what Germany did to their fathers and mothers?

Another question...Why am I a better German than your village idiot?

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #940

As a reasonable German, one day please explain to me why Germany, after inflicting 27 million deaths in the USSR, would not at least stay away from this BS in Ukraine

As one comment below this clip tells - "they think that we forgot everything... But we did not."

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #941

Why am I a better German than your village idiot?

....because you prefer the conservative, old, law and order Germany to the multikulti, failing, knife throwing muslims, modern nightmare-Germany as I do!

That was easy, but that:

So why make 140 million Russians hate you again after they almost forget what Germany did to their fathers and mothers?

"they think that we forgot everything... But we did not."

is alot more difficult!

First, I very much doubt that Russians forgot anything....and why should they? As far as I know they remembered every year with a big parade and all surviving Veterans.

Not to mention that Putin himself tried with "liberation from them ukrainian Nazis" to revive the old spirit again...and successfully so. Trying to unify a downtrodden, unsuccessful people behind him with re-living, or should I say "re-enacting" something which is very much alive and well in the minds of the country.

Second, Ukraine was part of this unforgotten history too...and a very big part, I might add. Ukraine was the way to Moscow for the Wehrmacht. This was the territory the most cruel and gruesome fights had been fought...where the most people died...where the most destruction and the worst losses happened.

Neither them nor we have forgotten anything....

So...you could say Germany has a duty to help Ukraine in this!

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #942

Please, don't.

That's why I enjoy watching your Victory Parades. I guess patriotism is not hate speech in Russia. Long live Russia. NATO - GFY.

Tacitus
1 Jun 2024  #943

@Novichok

because Russia is not stupid.

That is what we used to think until 2022. Then they started a brutal war which they continue to this day against all reason.

@Bratwurst Boy

So...you could say Germany has a duty to help Ukraine in this!

Indeed. And as bonus, when future Ukrainians learn about the history of their country, they won't just learn about German tanks invading them in 1940s but also how they were used in their defense in the 2020s.

As horrible as this war is, it has become an opportunity to recast our role in the public perception.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #944

As horrible as this war is, it has become an opportunity to recast our role in the public perception.

*nods*

Could very well be that in this alliance Germany could shed the shadows of the last lost war....there will be movies....and books...

To bad Russia will take over that outcast-spot then...for a long time!

That's why I enjoy watching your Victory Parades.

Who knows how this war develops....but Berlin might get his true victory parades back....whereas Moscow ones will cease....could all very well happen, who knows....

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #945

So...you could say Germany has a duty to help Ukraine in this!

Let me absolve you of this sentiment...You don't. Your only obligation is to sustain the German nation - MGGA - and its achievements. In this respect, there is no conflict between Germany and Russia.

The current one is 100% made in the USA. At least the warmongers sent their British wh*ore, not a German Chancellor, to tell Z to ignore P and condemn 600,000 Ukrainians to their deaths.

to this day against all reason.

Putin explained the reasons 476 times so I will not try again.

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #946

So...you could say Germany has a duty to help Ukraine in this!

And if, no...when you lost it again?

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #947

When we lose again it will be this time in alliance with Western-Europe, the US and the Brits additionally Poland, the Balts and many others.....believe me, that won't be so bad as alone!

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #948

When we lose again it

We are not communist anymore...there will be no soupe at all.

Tacitus
1 Jun 2024  #949

@Bratwurst Boy

..there will be movies....and books..

Certainly something to look forward to.

Ironside
1 Jun 2024  #950

We are not communist anymore

but the trope is still the same, the Great War winning over fascists and all that kind of language. I get it you have nothing else in your cultural baren Muscovite soul.

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #951

Extremes are never good.

What do you think NATO would do if Germany continued trading with Russia to keep German factories happy? Kick you out of NATO or the EU?

Germany is that big elephant in the living room. You are more important to Europe than any other country. So throw that guilt crap into the nearest garbage can and do what's best for Germany. Joining those idiotic sanctions was not.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #952

Certainly something to look forward to.

Definitely a welcomed change! :)

We are not communist anymore..

Out of interest....what ARE you now?

Not communist...not democratic....still capitalist? Surely autocratic? Dictatorship? What?

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #953

I get it you have nothing else in your cultural baren Muscovite soul.

You want to see Russian barren souls? Watch the May 9 parades. Or this video...



Show me anything like this in multi Europe. Yes, I know, you have to be sensitive to your migrant hordes...DEI above all...

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #954

Out of interest....what ARE you now?

Difficult question.... One thing is for sure, we are not you. We do not want to emulate the west and... Learn Russian!

Bratwurst Boy
1 Jun 2024  #955

One thing is for sure, we are not you.

I got that, hence my question....

Learn Russian!

I did that for five years....Menja sawut Bratwurst...Ja schewu w Berlinje...heh:)

Sadly it was never used much....now mostly forgotten....

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #956

did that for five years....Menja sawut Bratwurst...Ja schewu w Berlinje...heh:)

All european countries are small and densely populated...

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #957

...but still feel they are the center of our solar system...See Poland.

ConstantineK
1 Jun 2024  #958

Small area and dense population are not very advantageous position in nuclear war.

Novichok
1 Jun 2024  #959

Hey, Iron, how about those "barren" Russian souls? I didn't see anything "barren" there...Did you?

Tacitus
1 Jun 2024  #960

Over 465,000 Russian personnel killed or wounded since 2022

gov.uk/government/speeches/over-465000-russian-personnel-killed-or-wounded-since-2022-a-terrible-human-loss-for-russians-uk-statement-to-the-osce

The UK intelligence services have proven that they have a pretty good insight into the war. But even if it were 400k or 600k, the scale is staggering. More than all US casualties combined since WWII. Who knows, maybe they'll surpass US casualties during WWII in the end. What a waste of life and ressources. But I suppose this is why the USA is a superpower, and Russia a Great power in decline. For all their faults, democracies do not tolerate the senseless waste of their people at a scale that the Russians still find acceptable.

And the killing goes on, and on and on, with Russia's only plan of victory being outwaiting Western support for Ukraine.


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