Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 14

The donkey is who ? lukaszenko ?

If Kartofel Fuhrer is the Donkey, then who is the Dragon?

@cms neuf
You obviously did not read the report completely that came out at 19:45 yesterday. understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-18-2024 Some pretty good info on both sides in these reports. I like the geolocation aspect they use, not emotional, simply fact based.

How is my rusty Russian Bobko? Do you like the message?

I like the geo part, too.

Unfortunately, it doesn't show the carnage, PTSD, orphans, widows, stress, and other forms of human suffering - all preventable but for the US MICC and that British BJ wh0re.

Memo to Russia haters: Before you say something stupid again, post what Z and P were about to agree on in April 2022.

Then we can have a rational discussion of Z-P=0 and why I should get a Nobel Prize for something.

@Novichok
But paying attention to details doesnt fit the leftist narrative. The war mongers who claim democracy as their flag, wouldnt know real democracy if it slapped them in the face.

You don't reestablish deterrence via appeasement. Peace is achieved by teaching aggressors that aggression is expensive. The cost-benefit analysis for this war has to be very bad, so that this and the next Russian government, and other governments observing, can learn not to do that. Its not worth it. We are making it not worth it, by intervening and pushing back.

Putin, like Hitler, has not negotiated in good faith. Negotiations are just an attempt by them to get things they want at a lower cost, but they are more than willing to use force to get it if negotiations don't get them fully what they want. And usually the concessions they try to negotiate enable them to use force in the future with even less resistance.

A day or so ago Ukraine blew up a massive ammo depot in russia about 150 klicks nw of Moscow...

Today russia struck a nursing home with about 200 retired civilians

The two side are not the same.


And who are they? Name names!

What were Z and P about to agree on in April 2022?

You are right.

Ukrainian troops are in Russia.

Russian troops are in Russia.

The two sides are not the same.

Or there is no such thing as self-determination. You can't have it for Kosovo but not for Crimea and Donbass.

According to the latest poll conducted by Napolitan news service among one thousand supporters of the U.S. Democratic Party in the wake of the second attempted assassination attempt on Trump, it was found that 28 percent of them, that is, more than a quarter, support assassination attempts on Donald Trump. Killing Trump, in their opinion, "would be better for the United States" (!!!). And better "for American democracy."

This alone speaks to the degree of radicalization of American society and the deep imbalance of the country's political system. When a killer's bullet is perceived as a symbol and the main mechanism for "protecting democracy," it means the death of even a semblance of democracy and the degeneration of this semblance into a dictatorship of "democrats," who have turned into the bearers of a new fascism.

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But what does that have to do with Poland, Veland ?
Lets take a poll on how many people want Putin assassinated.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Russia

suicide rate at 10.6 suicides per 100.000 people. In 2021, the suicide rate in Russia was 10.7 per 100,000 people, according to national sources, down from 39.1 in 2000 and 41.4 in 1995.

politico.eu/article/ukraine-kyiv-un-security-council-washington-nato/

Its as if I had consulted on the writing of this article for the last year. Crazy I know how sane people actually begin to question the narrative of the people fueling the war effort and the killing of men.

@Velund
This is the democractic party. When they cannot discuss and argue actual points of contention, they scream and if needed try to kill the oposition. Feelings, not facts control these morons. I dont like Trump, but I like his policies. Harris supporters would love for someone to kill Trump, only most wont say it out loud.

Killing Ukrainians makes russians happy!..... noted.


You like what he says his policies are which are not necessarily related to anything he'll do. Remember, he built no wall,

I no longer live in the US so I won't vote but would probably vote for DT over KH because at least total blind chance beats Harris's policies (to the extent that any have been articulated).

I don't understand his comparison to Iraq - in that case the US and UK were claiming that Saddam might be an agressor

In this case, Putler has actually invaded Ukraine, with a view to annexing it.

And the suggestion that the western power should impose a peace settlement on the people bravely resisting an invasion is shameful.

But most of all it ignores the fact that the North Nigerians will simply ignore any peace settlement so it is not worth the paper it's written on.

Correction. Killing banderites makes Russians happy. Nothing can be compared with feeling of successful direct application of higher justice.

What about unicorns and bandersnitches and magical elves?


The right in the US is totally besotted with putain... they think of him as some kind of strong christian leader (total nonsense if you the first thing about him or his russia) but it's spread by idiots like Tucker Carlson who was impressed by shopping carts that you put a coin in...

@mafketis
He did try to build a wall. Congress blocked funding, and what was built, Biden and Harris dismantled much of it. Harris has still yet to put forward any real policy relating to the hot button issues. She is nothing more than a DEI candidate and an Obama puppet. She would be the worst thing for the war.

@cms neuf
Of course you dont recognize the facts that Ukraine is running out of men, and Russia just conscripts more when they want. Yes, Ukraine has been brave. And now its time to end the deaths, and end the US funding of this war.

rusian victory would mean a _lot_ more deaths than are currently happening... did you learn nothing from Mariupol or Bucha?

@mafketis
Under your position, Ukraine will be left with no men to repopulate or rebuild the country when the war does end. This essentially means Russia wins no matter what. And the US has no business being involved in this war in any way other than to sell weapons, and not put hundreds of billions of dollars more debt on the American citizens.

They don't care about any of that, man. Stop kidding yourself.

Hatred of Russia > Concern for Ukraine's future.

By that point in time when Ukraine is gonna be experiencing the full blown effects of demographic and economic collapse, these folks will be busy cheering on Taiwan or somebody else. Alternatively, they'll blame all of it on Russia, and blithely carry on with their lives - their conscience clear as a drop of spring dew.

The very simple truth is that the best scenario for Ukraine, would have been a rapid collapse of their defenses during the week of Feb. 24, 2022.

1) Ukraine would have preserved the lives of hundreds of thousands of young men.

2) Ukraine would not have lost millions as emigres.

3) Ukraine would benefit from hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian investment into infrastructure and industry.

Of course, the West would have sanctioned Ukraine - just like they sanctioned Crimea and the Donbass - but that's a very small price to pay in comparison to what has already happened to them instead.

By the way... isn't that funny how the first time around (2014) the West ended up sanctioning the Donbass and Crimea, and not so much Russia?

They sanctioned yesterday's Ukrainians, just so that these regions couldn't blossom within Russia. The Ukrainians added to it, by blocking the flow of water to Crimea, and enforcing an embargo on the Donbass.

That's pretty much all you need to know about the level of concern for Ukrainians among the CMS Neufs and Mafketises of the world.

They'd sooner like to see Ukraine burn to the ground, than be Russian.


Your Russian is very good!

The best scenario would be for russia to, for once, act like a civilized country and not invaded a peaceful neighbor that posed no threat.

Every bad effect of that stupid, stupid, stupid decision is on russia and russians.... every death is on russia.... I know that makes no impression on you because russians don't value human life.


what on earth can blossom in the retarded russian socio-economic system?

How do you explain the fact that russian pows in Ukraine are fed and healthy and Ukrainian pows returning from russia look like they've been in concentration camps?

What aspect of the mysterious russian soul makes them mistreat prisoners and imagine that Ukrainians would be better off under their rule?

Which caliber of artillery starting to pose a threat if used against civilian residental blocks? If 152 mm pose no threat, what about NATO 155 mm?

russia invaded in 2014 (the architect of the invasion admits it) and then labelled any push back as military aggression.

russian excuses are so effing lame and transparent... try again serf.

Quite. They and only they are to blame.


They make so many and do it so crack-handedly that nobody believes them.

Some interesting news from the front:

" Russian soldiers are killing themselves on the front lines in what secret Kremlin documents call a "tense issue of suicides" among demoralised troops.

Other soldiers reportedly "ran away" from Kursk after Ukraine's incursion, "without even evacuating or destroying their documents", according to a cache of Russian FSB, interior ministry and army papers seized by Kyiv"
telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/20/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news7/

They've already been instructed to kill themselves if they're wounded rather than be taken prisoner (russia doesn't want to pay for a bunch of cripples)

I guess Russia has never heard of the "Wounded Warriors program".
Is it true that Russia kills babies that are born with birth defects too ?
How barbaric.

...but not for the US MICC and PF Russia-hating morons.

They cherish every dead Ukrainian as a prop and the evidence of their superior sense of morality.

They love that Hight Moral Ground five-star hotel with a bar, swimming pool, and hot babes...and very far from the killing fields where men die in large numbers.

One day I will understand why of all nationalities here the two I really hate are Brits and Polaks.

a couple years back that same NKVD committed a great purge in the Soviet army in which the best of the officers perished, which they paid dearly for in the early days of German invasion of the USSR

Because Ikrainians don't want to be Rissians.

And who should be blamed if not the aggressor?