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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 14



Velund
22 Sep 2024  #841

A nice article here:

Here was too...

Russia Is Finished
The unstoppable descent of a once great power into social catastrophe and strategic irrelevance
By Jeffrey Tayler
The Atlantic, May 2001 Issue


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jon357
22 Sep 2024  #842

ssia Is Finished

We all know that.

Since your article there has been a steady decline which has snowballed since the ridiculously ill-advised decision to invade a peaceful neighbour.

Velund
22 Sep 2024  #843

LOL...

Quos Deus perdere vult dementat prius

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #844

Russians and Russian bootlickers never comment on the video's I post about the war in Ukraine, because they have no answers.....here is another one just to ram their defeat down their throats!



jon357
22 Sep 2024  #845

LOL...

Yes, down and down; Putler even took office by killing people in the apartment bombings.

When the end comes, it will be swift; you know that yourself.

here is another one just to ram their defeat down their throats!

A good video. Things are not looking bright for them.

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #846

It gets even worse for Russia,,,,,, they are getting desperate now......



Velund
22 Sep 2024  #847

never comment on the video's I post

Here is a lot of more useful things to do, rather than look your stupid propaganda. ;) Right now I do something for a volunteer project - loading program to a bunch of microcontrollers for the FPV drone's delayed engagement fuse. This is my personal warm greetings to the banderites and mercenaries. In another window, JTDX calling 5H1WX, Mafia Island on 17m. ;) Two hobbies at once. ;)

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #848

rather than look your stupid propaganda.

Yes, rather than look at my "stupid propaganda" let's listen to what ordinary Russians in the street have to say..... they are largely still supportive of Russia, partly because it is their country and partly because of the propaganda they are fed every day but the doubts are appearing..... revolution is coming.... if Russians are brave enough....



Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #849

Russians and Russian bootlickers never comment

You don't comment on our posts, either, even if they are addressed to you.
See #812.
Right now I do something for a volunteer project

Kill them all. Foreign scum first.

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #850

You don't comment on our posts, either, even if they are addressed to you.

That is true.
Why should I reply to Russian bootlicker barbarians posts? Just a waste of time...... talk to me when Russia lose this war or better still when Putin has gone....

Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #851

if Russians are brave enough....

They were brave enough to call it "a war". Some azhole here said that if you call it a war, you go to prison.

This week, I asked a group of six college students (all six were women) if transgender women are actually women. Not a single one would dare to answer the question.

One said: I am not comfortable to talk about this subject. In America. The land of freedom and democracy.

I like Russians more.

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #852

In America. The land of freedom and democracy.

That sentence is meaningless now.

I like Russians more.

Then move to Russia!
As long as you stay in America.
You are a two faced, lying hypocrite!

Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #853

Why should I reply to Russian bootlicker barbarians posts?

You didn't comment because you knew I was right and that your Boris is a war criminal or at least a US wh0re.

There is a simple rule in debates: A claim unrebutted is true.

You didn't rebut what I posted in 812. You lose.

All that crap about "waste of time" is just evasive crap. Nobody with compelling arguments folds and walks away. You did because you have none.

Then move to Russia!

Are you moving to Nepal for cleaner air?

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #854

You didn't rebut what I posted in 812. You lose.

No, by ignoring your ignorant post.I win.

All that crap about "waste of time" is just evasive crap

Why should I waste my time replying to idiotic posts?

Nobody with compelling arguments folds and walks away.

Wrong again, proper people know when an argument is a waste of time and rather than feed the flames, they walk away.

You have NEVER given a logical reason for Russia invading Ukraine..... end of!

Velund
22 Sep 2024  #855

Kill them all.

Rich, I'm doing things that provide nothing other than safety. ;) Extra seconds of safety for our guys, to let their nice and peaceful bird fly away, and only then became banderofagus predator. ;)

So, if you want to kill someone - it is to another guys, please. ;)

Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #856

they are getting desperate now......

I watched that video. No desperation. Only a calm Russian president explaining the consequences of NATO actions.

BTW, after watching this, I am now really embarrassed by the idea of a non-verbal giggling moron being elected by equally moronic American voters.

Russians are too smart for this act of stupidity so my preference for Russians still stands.

I would move today if I could.

it is to another guys, please. ;)

Send them stay safe card from me.

Miloslaw
22 Sep 2024  #857

I watched that video. No desperation. Only a calm Russian president explaining the consequences of NATO actions.

If you didn't feel a sense of desperation then you are insensitive.And the fact that he was very obviously bluffing!

I would move today if I could.

What is stopping you?

Your wife?

Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #858

What is stopping you?

I would miss 1 and 2 and be stuck with 3 and 4.

I want a subway were I can urinate when the urge comes.


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Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #859

Back to the war...
The agreement in April 2022 was as follows:

1. Russia keeps Crimea
2. Ukraine keeps everything else
3. Ukraine stays neutral.

If you know better, go ahead...post it.

jon357
22 Sep 2024  #860

talk to me when ...... lose this war or better still when Putin has gone....

We'll all be too drunk on champagne and tired from dancing in the street.

Novichok
22 Sep 2024  #861

Memo to the azholes who are making hotel reservations in Kiev to celebrate Z's victory:

Watch this...



I know you won't so at least read the title: Ukraine's Victory Plan: Dead on Arrival - Col Doug Macgregor

For your support of this war and the deaths of thousands of Ukrainian men - rot in hell. With friends like you...

Novichok
23 Sep 2024  #862

Most Americans don't know that just in 1941 alone Germans executed (executed, not killed) 2 million Soviet civilians and POWs - in cold blood and with full premeditation.

Stalin and the Red Army were way too nice to Germans when the war was over.

Velund
23 Sep 2024  #863

I would miss 1

Lots of democracy, neatly colored... And increased requirements for freedom. I understand you, somewhat.

PolAmKrakow
23 Sep 2024  #864

@jon357
I have always been suspicious of the real estate market in Polands big cities. The government was pushing development far too much right before and right after COVID. My concern is for the people who bought into that push. Every day people, not the developers. While I fully defend a free market economic system, I think the real estate business in Poland is pretty sketchy. Prior to buying in Poland, every realtor I dealt with was nothing what I would have expected in a professional. The developer I bought from, was a real professional, yet things were not as tightly done as I am used to in the US which is a highly regulated industry. Still though the concerns for average people who used the market conditions of Ukraine people lining up to rent, may be a very big problem when the war does end.

Z is in the US making the rounds again. With just over six weeks left to the election, the question is what Biden will do. Will he push the the use of US weapons and allow Ukraine to hit inside Russia? Will he escalate the war to a point where I think Russia will react in a way that no one wants? Putin is not going to stop until he gets what he feels is enough. He will throw more men and money at this until Ukraine runs out of men, or the rest of the west finally admits Ukraine cannot push Russia out of the land they have taken control of.

Meanwhile, the UN is a disaster, and the security council has to be completely torn down and rebuilt. Some are now concerned that continued problems could cause it to fall apart. While its largely a useless politcal body, it does serve as a place where some negotiations can take place. Maybe pressure there can force Ukraine and Russia to talk.

jon357
23 Sep 2024  #865

have always been suspicious of the real estate market in Polands big cities

Me too, however I'd say it was worse a decade or so ago.

I also wonder about a lot of the ground floor commercial premises in blocks. Many will never find buyers as shops/HORECA and are hard to turn into flats.

Will he push the the use of US weapons and

That will happen and Putain escalated already. It's not so much US weapons as European weapons that use certain components made in the US that have a transfer clause in the contract.

Commentators say the decision has been made already but is likely to be announced at the UN

Velund
23 Sep 2024  #866

it does serve as a place where some negotiations can take place

It was that place before. Until US gov started to use visa limitations to block access to UN to "unwanted" experts and diplomats.

But there is one thing that make me laugh. A lot of "countries" that have few thousands goat fcukers (and most of them doing what US say them to do in UN) nave same 1 vote as China and India in General Assembly. ;) And attempt to "rearrange" SC will be end of UN as we know it.

amiga500
23 Sep 2024  #867

Dead for over a century. Never to return.

And the state of Israel was dead for three centuries, look at it now. As much as Lviv is Ukrainian land, it's also Polish and Jewish and Tatar land.
Your point being, that the artificial lines drawn up by Roosevelt and Churchill and Stalin are sacred and inviolable is perhaps premature and presumptuous..

PolAmKrakow
23 Sep 2024  #868

@Velund
Lets be honest. The UN is full of spies from everywhere and so is every embassy. The members of the UN dont accomplish much at any time and the politics has been all but useless in most instances. If the SC is rearranged, and I think it should be, some members will likely leave. But that is the cost of doing business. And if they leave, they will have no one to voice their concerns to.

ground floor commercial premises

This is a very European thing and I found it strange when moving here. But you are right, there are so many vacant in Krakow now most are not being sold, and most of them are having a hard time finding people to lease space.

As for items with US components being used in Russia, eventually Vlad will run out of patience and he will do something to send a message. Moldova could be a hot point.

I am wondering why Ukraine has not struck all the new construction taking place in the areas Russia has annexed. These would seem to be likely high priority targets to keep the area uninhabitable. Obviously not hitting civilian housing, but taking out new construction before its inhabited would seem like something worth doing to send a message that its going to be "reclaimed".

jon357
23 Sep 2024  #869

And the state of Israel was dead for three centuries, look at it now

That's not actually a recommendation.

The Orc Empire is long dead and most of it will become China's b1tch; one reason that Vladolf Putler had such a small window to launch his disastrous invasion.

This is a very European thing and I found it strange when moving here

It's even strange for me. From UK, I'm used to ground floor and basement (which Poles don't like) flats. There, even ordinary old shops are becoming houses now and office buildings are becoming flats. A shrewd investor could make a lot of money in PL doing this.

Velund
23 Sep 2024  #870

had such a small window to launch

He had even smaller window to launch, because lots of shell crates was unloaded to ground near artillery to make Gaza out of Donetsk (for "final solution of Donbass problem"). In a couple of days it would be hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, in addition to 14000+ that was killed in previous 8 years.

And do not tell about "territorial integrity" for ukraine, read UN Resolution № 2625 (XXV) dated 24 oct 1970. The principle of territorial integrity is considered there in relation to states that "respect in their actions the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples <...> and, as a consequence, have governments that represent, without distinction of race, creed or color, all the people living in the territory". Consequently, it can be concluded that the principle of territorial integrity is inapplicable to states that do not represent all peoples living on their territory, fail to ensure equal rights of the peoples living in it, and do not allow free self-determination of such peoples. Moreover, this declaration, while directly prohibiting actions leading to the dissolution of states, does not prohibit the recognition of new states that have unilaterally seceded from other states.

After a Maidan coup, nazi from the west that comes in the power definitely not represented people of Crimea, Donbass and Novorossia, and state terror that followed attempts of self-determination (terror was successful in Odessa and Kharkov but failed in Donbass) clearly showed that russian majority in that regions was oppressed by new government.


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