Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 14

A quick look at what Russia and Ukraine were about to agree on in April 2002 shows who was wrong.

It was your mother fvcking Boris whoring for the senile moron Biden and the US MICC.

Under this agreement, Ukraine would lose only Crimea as prediminantly Russian.

No NATO in Ukraine.

Better treatment of Russians and their culture in Ukraine.

The end.

If your information is different, post it. No personal comments or insults.

I am turning into Bobko 2 with my unusual restrain.

As Z prepares to head to the US again, he says the war depends on Ukraines allies. Yet he continues to not discuss the complete lack of manpower, which is the key cause for Ukraine not being able to get things accomplished. Z continues to call on the US to allow use of lang range weapons in Russia, and is not afraid of kicking off WW3. Why hasn't the UK given the go ahead for long range weapon use? Probably because they believe it will have serious consequences with Russia if they dont do it along with the US. Now Z is saying he will present a plan for victory when he visits the US. If any part of that plan does not include more men, then it is not a plan.

Ukraine is reportedly recruiting 6,500 new soldiers a month. I hope fewer are dying each month. They already have a much larger army than at the beginning of the war.

I have a plan that will satisfy so many...

Give Z two dozen 10 megaton nukes to drop on Russia. In about an hour all of our problems are over....The debt, the deficits, illegals, climate change, overpopulation,...

Nukes are what Poles are dreaming about all so my idea is not totally idiotic.

As usual it is totally idiotic. You better go to sleep now.

A Lithuanian TV host suggested shooting parents for Russian songs

"Let's imagine a family where the father loudly turns on a Russian movie and the mother loudly listens to Russian music. Here the question is what to do first - to take away the children and then shoot them or in front of the children.... No, of course, first take away the children and then shoot them", - this statement was made by Algis Ramanauskas.

Rich, what do you think - should we include this malignant moron into a beginning of katynisation list as a VIP, or put it to a end, after baboon and their command?

@Alien
6500 a month. Thats a nice number, but it wont even get them close to the numbers Russia is training or can call up at any minute. Recruiting or taking them off the streets forcibly? Why isnt Ukraine seeking the deportation of Ukraine men from other countries? There are thousands of Ukraine men of fighting age in Krakow alone, thousands more in Gdansk where they have created a housing shortage.

What happens when this war does end in one way or another? All of the Ukraine people break their leases for apartments and housing? Rental price collapse? Real estate demand collapse? Demand for other goods and services drops very fast if these things happen. Big picture, the zloty will drop in value quickly. If Ukraine is being rebuilt by the US who already has the contracts for it, how many Polish tradesmen go there to work and leave the workforce in Poland? So many things people either are not talking about or are simply too stupid to think about.

Very few compared to r*SSia who use "meat waves".

In the whole conflict, around 30,000 Ukrainians have been killed compared to at least 180,000 r*SSians.

And now r*SSia is having huge trouble finding people. When they do, of course, it's either old age pensioners or near useless conscripts since much of their professional army was wiped out right at the start.

So how come the heroic Ukrainian forces haven't sent those clueless conscripts and teethless granpas, armed with rusty old crap, running back to Russia yet?

Probably carriers of bandera ideology is heroic and productive only in slaughtering peaceful villagers (see Volyn massacre). Somewhat successful in acts of terror (see Ukrainian SSR after WWII before "Akcija Wisla". But regular armed forces is too hard opponent for them, especially without a concrete fortification lines that was built many years.

Unlike the carriers of Soviet ideology?

It is unlikely. Ukraine after the war will look like the GDR before unification with the FRG. And that time in Germany was a time of incredible economic prosperity in the whole of Germany. It will be the same with Poland when peace comes.

Meanwhile russia successfully uses a Sarmat RS-28 missile to create a large hole in the ground, dismantle the test site and start a big fire....

x.com/MeNMyRC1/status/1837611953734537377

Apparently this is the fourth failed test....

russia stronk!

That is why we don't care about their nuke threats - they simply have too low chances of a successful launch, and a high risk of nuking themselves.

oh no...... not that... anything but thazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

@Alien
When more than a million people leave Poland there will be a vaccum of real estate prices dropping because supply will far out pace the demand. Of course Ukraine will be a boom town. Billions will pour in for reconstruction. Blackrock and Chase already have the contracts. That money wont be going into Poland.

How can they 'run' if they're being eaten by wildlife or stuffed into a orc 'mobile crematorium'?


Some of the best agricultural land in the world, lithium deposits, a huge titanium mine and the nicest parts of the Black Sea Coast.

And thanks to the orcs, they've just gained a huge diaspora community.


Excellent news; prices have been stupidly and antisociallu high for a least a decade.

There is another possible scenario - Blackrock, Vanguard, Monsanto and others who "purchased" ukrainian land for peanuts will get a dick in the mouth, those who signed contracts for reconstruction will get something similar, and reconstruction will create boom in Russia.

Poland will get Iskanders along the border and a lot of extra expenses to keep US weapons operational, instead of money. ;)

Hardly rare.

r*SSia can't win this, and it's time you learned to accept that.

@Velund
It could indeed go your way as well. Depends on what happens at the negotiating table. I suspect its somewhere in between.

@jon357
I agree prices are out of sontrol. But, this will also put those people who made "investments" in dangerous financial waters. Speculation on real estate in Poland for rentals by people taking out mortgages was the primary contribution to the escalating prices. What happens when a lot of those mortgages cant be paid because there are no renters. Cash buyers in Poland are very rare now.

That is the problem of the people that bought the apartments and the banks that funded it. The market system that you like. It would be good for Jan Q Pole if the prices fell.

I doubt the zloty would fall - the war ending will likely increase investment into the region.

One of other variants - Poland, Hungary and Romania get their former lands, Russia get the rest. The "motherlands" of banderite nazis goes to Poland and responsibility to clean up that viper's nest will go to Poland as well.

PS: Most likely hundreds of banderite families (mostly families of AFU servicemens, many now radically de-nazified) that was moved last years from western regions to Odessa to "dilute russian/jewish majority" will get a strong kick in the ass back to their historical homeland (and to polish zone of responsibility in de-nazification process).

Poland and Romania have no interest in their former lands. They are both modern democracies, rapidly improving living standards and good members of the EU and NATO.

Hungary are becoming increasingly eccentric and probably nuts enough to think about annexing a few dusty villages in Ukraine.

Its papacy that pushed Poland into that adventure, to that missionary agenda. Poles themselves would never do that. Popes wanted more believers.

Do they want that? And why would r*SSia 'get' the rest? It isn't theirs. The age of irredentism is long over and in any case, if r*SSia were going to 'get' anything, that would have happened in 20223 when their army were still alive.


The4 value of investments can go down as well as up. It's always a risk, and in PL a lot was sheer greed. Do you remember the arbitrage on new build flats a few years ago? The developers often had no idea who to collect the installments from and of course the margins were often so tight that the slightest lull left people out of pocket. Many similarities to a Ponzi scheme.

If the Austro-Hungarian project "Ukraine" will be finally closed, Russia as the next of kin of the Russian Empire will have the most rights.

..."empiiiiiirree".... don't make me laugh, a couple of potemkin cities and a cowed population afraid of its own shadow and endemic violence and crime....

'empire'.... hilarious

Afraid? Try to ask any trans question in the land of the free and the First Amendment...You will see real fear ...

No KGB, no FSB, no gulags, civil rights up to their eyeballs...With all that, Americans are petrified.

Even the US Supreme Court DEI judges are scared to answer questions Russians are not.

Want a sample?

Dead for over a century. Never to return.

Likewise dead for over a century. Never, ever to return.

Your orcs can't win this one. Get over it.

A nice article here:

"Putin's regime will collapse - quickly and without warning. "That's how things happen in Russia. Both the Romanov empire in the early 20th century, and the Soviet regime at the end of the 20th century collapsed in three days. That's not a metaphor, it was literally three days in both cases.""

theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/22/putin-regime-will-collapse-without-warning-says-freed-gulag-dissident