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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 15



Crow
24 Oct 2024  #991

As far as I can see the near future, let`s say, in 20-30 years, Poland and Serbia would be much bigger. Poland would be on about 80-100 mil populace and Serbia would be around 70 mil or even more depending on technical details, namely exact borders.

People, this is necessary. Europe became ugly place. Only Poles and Serbs can correct it. Our hands are forced. We are ready for the mantle of responsibility.

I love this forum.

Well of course. This is the place of wisdom and sanity, thanks to our fine moderators.

cms neuf
24 Oct 2024  #992

You are right to be annoyed Bobko

They have 100k a week to spend on fake ass trolls but let their soldiers go without fresh food and bandages

Exactly the reason nobody greets the North Nigerians with flowers when they invade

GefreiterKania
24 Oct 2024  #993

Only Poles and Serbs can correct it. Our hands are forced.

Not only hands he he

Thanks, Crow. I had a rather difficult day at work today - you just made it much better. *high five*

The Place of Wisdom and Sanity

Forget "The BEST Guide to Poland"; I think we've just found a new slogan for PF!

Crow
24 Oct 2024  #994

*high five*

Tusk and Vucic did the same for me today. By all means its clear that they had good time in Belgrade. Sarmatian connection always works. See, Catherine the Great believed in it. And Peter the Great. Same as Zawisha. Same as Vladislaw Warnenchyk. Lech Kaczinsky. Many. Many.

Poles and Serbs.

See now, why Zawisha and Warnenchyc sacrificed their lives. To provide future. They knew that fall of Serbians represent also long night for Poland, too. So they gave all they had to reduce length of the night.

And now. The morning comes.

PolAmKrakow
24 Oct 2024  #995

nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ukraine-running-out-soldiers-fight-russia-213354

Nothing to see here. Nothing to see. Keep moving along.

Crow
24 Oct 2024  #996

Forget "The BEST Guide to Poland"; I think we've just found a new slogan for PF!

I am the sales and marketing expert, you know. Officially.

Novichok
24 Oct 2024  #997

nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ukraine-running-out-soldiers-fight-russia-213354

Quoting:

"Reinforcements are few and far between," CNN reported, "leaving some soldiers exhausted and demoralized. The situation is particularly dire among infantry units near Pokrovsk and elsewhere on the eastern front line, where Ukraine is struggling to stop Russia's creeping advances."

Seriously...What stopping Poland and the Baltics from joining the UA?

Crow
24 Oct 2024  #998

Seriously...What stopping Poland and the Baltics from joining the UA?

Don`t know for the Baltics. Its late for them anyway. But Poland got good news in Belgrade today and why would Poland risk.

Novichok
24 Oct 2024  #999

But Poland got good news in Belgrade today ....

Is it a secret?

Crow
24 Oct 2024  #1000

Many speculate on this. At this moment only reading Orban you understand truth.... Serbia don`t need EU. EU needs Serbia. Tusk didn`t come to talk about Serbia`s EU membership but to ask for Serbia`s services. No, not only in Russia. Serbia is European hub for Chinese, Japanese and USA business. Even regional hub for the EU. That much about anti-Serbian daily politics.... all were able to see how Serbia demonstrated its newly reclaimed influence in Dubrovnik. Serbian president literally came and told to other 12 South-East European countries and to Zelenski himself, how will joint Dubrovnik declaration look like or there won`t be any declaration.

So, is it not clear? If Poland is close with Serbia, opinion of Russian public improves regarding Poland. It obliges even Putin. And Serbia is deep within Russian society. Not just with Putin. After all, same way as in Polish society. So no wonder that Kashub coming to Serbia as an envoy of Poland. You heard Tusk. He talked nicely in Serbian. And listen carefully what he said... how world powers respects Serbia.

What you looking now in Europe is restoration of the wealth and influence line not just prior to the rise of Rome but even prior to rise of Greeks. Here is the true European balance, true old core. Ancient core. Birth giving core. So also mentality of the core. Lepenski vir and Vinca. Serbia. First European civilization. Non is better suited to have the mantle of responsibility for the re-distribution of limited resources. Until humanity is adult enough to move to populate solar system.

pawian
24 Oct 2024  #1001

Serbia don`t need EU

BS. Your economy can`t revive after Balkan wars. It never will unless you access the EU.

Crow
24 Oct 2024  #1002

You heard Tusk. He is fascinated with Serbia`s success. And we are not member of the EU.

EU is in decline. And EU powers. Serbia rising.

Serbia is focus of biggest world business. Serbia have abundance of energy. Resources. Technology. Secured in great deals with biggest powers. Companies/magnates that closing business on the west of Europe, if didn`t move to USA, they emerging in Serbia.

Serbia as the state is prone to sincere neutrality. We are the core. Its is clear that it is noted and rewarded.

pawian
24 Oct 2024  #1003

Serbia rising

BS. You are completely useless and unimportant. You can gain more weight by joining the EU.

Miloslaw
24 Oct 2024  #1004

BS. You are completely useless and unimportant.

Agreed.

You can gain more weight by joining the EU.

Really? That is not the experience that the UK had, which is why we voted to get out.

Get real.... France and Germany control the EU....end of!

PolAmKrakow
25 Oct 2024  #1005

understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-24-2024

Every map shows Russia gaining ground. Now NK troops are in the Kursk region. If NK troops are able to push Ukraine forces out, it would be a tremendous PR victory for little Kim and Vlad.

cms neuf
25 Oct 2024  #1006

How long do you think 12.000 starving slaves are going to last against the best French and German and British missiles?

As for the rest of the supposed advances - they are less than the size of a pumpkin patch. The drunk losers are still 8km from Pokrovsk

Crow
25 Oct 2024  #1007

Just sow Putin in newest BRICS video. Looks cool and optimistic. Real gentleman.

Alien
25 Oct 2024  #1008

Real gentleman

Stalin was the greater gentleman. 🏴‍☠️

Crow
25 Oct 2024  #1009

Every Pope is one Stalin.

Ironside
25 Oct 2024  #1010

Every

you are a Muslim aren't you? From Former Y Pretending to be Serb. No Serb would be that dumb.

amiga500
25 Oct 2024  #1011

Seems me and PAK are the only western members who are correct and factual. Everyone else is off with the fairies.

"A friend of mine, usually an intensely optimistic pro-Ukraine analyst, returned from Ukraine last week and told me: "It's like the German Army in January 1945." The Ukrainians are being driven back on all fronts - including in the Kursk province of Russia, which they had opened with much hope and fanfare in August. More importantly, they are running out of soldiers."

theconversation.com/ukraine-cannot-defeat-russia-the-best-the-west-can-do-is-help-kyiv-plan-for-a-secure-post-war-future-242010

Lazarus
25 Oct 2024  #1012

you are a Muslim aren't you? From Former Y Pretending to be Serb. No Serb would be that dumb.

I'm firmly convinced that Crow is actually Albanian and posts here with the sole intention of trying to blacken the reputation of Serbs. Just look at what he has to say about ruSSia!

cms neuf
25 Oct 2024  #1013

In 1945, the Americans and British and even French were advancing rapidly through small towns where the population was sick of the war.

the UNNR was also advancing, mainly helped by American weapons and British bombers. Of course they were slowed down by their need for rape and looting but still managed to cross Poland in 6 months.

In 2024 the NNs are advancing literally slower than a snail and take two months to camp out 8km from a modest market town. they face a well organized and technically superior Ukrainian army, and their latest ruse is to throw a few divisions of emaciated Koreans into battle.

Why you bother to post this crappy Troll farm propaganda Amiga ?

amiga500
25 Oct 2024  #1014

Why you bother to post this crappy Troll farm propaganda Amiga ?

That's my point, you're so off with the fairies that you think the conversation website and the author is a troll farm
You are literally delusional. You have a brain worms and holes in your cranium from consuming so much propaganda.

"The Conversation began in Melbourne, Australia, in March 2011, created and founded by Andrew Jaspan and business strategist Jack Rejtman with support from University of Melbourne Vice-Chancellor Glyn Davis. The UK edition launched in May 2013, followed by editions in the US (2014), South Africa and France (2015), Canada, Indonesia and New Zealand (2017), Spain (2018), and Brasil (2023)."

The author: Frank Ledwidge Senior Lecturer in Military Strategy and Law, University of Portsmouth.
"Following eight years as a criminal barrister in his home city of Liverpool Frank worked for a decade in the Balkans and throughout the former Soviet Union in international human rights protection, criminal law reform, and institution building at the highest levels of government. He developed particular expertise in missing persons, human trafficking and torture prevention. He also served for a number of years as a reserve officer with extensive opertional experience retiring as head of his service branch.

Later he served as the first 'Justice Advisor' to the UK Mission in Helmand Province in 2007-2008 and worked in a similar role at the UK Embassy in Libya during and after the war there (2011-12). He has also worked in Ukraine during the current war."

If i was being charitable i would believe you're just hamming it up and chuckling to yourself whilst you type out vodka addled north nigerians whos guns are from WWI.

mafketis
25 Oct 2024  #1015

Meanwhile in russia.... butter has increased in price and is becoming harder to get so it's being stored in plastic boxes and/or being given to customers at check out....

x.com/splendid_pete/status/1849342749796921482

according to generalsvr (usual caveats apply) plans are for more widescale rationing for anticipated shortages next year....

Also, generalsvr said months ago that russia was cultivating Elon Musk

x.com/generalsvr_en/status/1757455032897744946

And today....

x.com/WSJ/status/1849619643423420492

Crow
25 Oct 2024  #1016

you are a Muslim aren't you?

To put cross on myself and spit on the ground three times, why would you say something like this?

We Serbians are target of Roma/Vatican`s genocidal policy for too long. Its not secret. I was actually very gentle. Popes were and are in fact, in a great deal, even worse then Stalin.

Mr. Ostrich, I mean Iron, please take your head out of the sand.

amiga500
25 Oct 2024  #1017

Mr. Ostrich, I mean Iron, please take your head out of the sand.

There is no sand in Quebec, there is only snow.

*seems aliens style of humour is wearing off on me.

Crow
25 Oct 2024  #1018

His head is in a dark place, I can tell you that one. Sand, snow or whatever medium. Its deep.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Oct 2024  #1019

What I wonder about is why asking for far-away-north-korean soldiers for support in the first place if everything is so easy and the war actually already won?

I doubt that was part of the plan two years back (in Kiev in six weeks, remember?)

I hope the north-Koreans get at least better fed from Russia than at home....and some will surely use this one-time-chance to flee...I know I would!

AntV
25 Oct 2024  #1020

What I wonder about is why asking for far-away-north-korean soldiers for support in the first place

Helluva good question. This war may be decided by who attrites the fastest.

I also wonder what is the Russian exchange for NK soldiers in Ukraine. Russia has been playing interference for NK regarding its nuclear ambitions lately. Is Russia now going to actively help NK develop nuclear capacity? It's the ancillary things this war is bringing about that concerns me the most.


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