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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 18



Bobko
7 Feb 2025  #1021

the offensive into Kursk has been very successful from an Ukrainian point of view.

From a Ukrainian point of view, many things may appear differently, but we should try to stay anchored in reality and react to actual facts.

1) It's fairly obvious that the Ukrainians expected greater results from committing their most elite formations to such an operation. Among others, they pulled in the 80th, 82nd, and 95th Air Assault Brigades - the best units Ukraine has (former VDV). There was also the famous 47th mechanized brigade, which is famous for two reasons - they have Abrams tanks, and a lot of their guys blew up on mines during the 2023 Summer Offensive. Practically all of Ukraine's SSO special operations forces were employed in Kursk.

2) All these elite units managed to seize, was a single town (Sudzha - population 6,000), and a string of villages around it. In the early days of the offensive it was clear that the Ukrainians had much more ambitious goals in mind. If not the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, then at least some more sizeable settlements, along more defensible terrain.

3) In addition to failing at further exploiting the initiative they enjoyed at the start of the operation, they failed to force the rotation of significant Russian forces from the Donbass.

4) While all these Rambos and Terminators were sent to Kursk, their poor counterparts from Territorial Defense Brigades and the Ukrainian National Guard were left to hold a 1,000 KM long front in the Southeast.

5) Understand, TDF units rarely have any armor. They're always shortchanged on artillery. They get the lowest quality men, after everyone else cherry picked the best ones. National Guard formations are only slightly better equipped. Nonetheless, the burden of resisting last year's Russian offensive fell on these guys shoulders, because all the best guys were busy taking photos outside a supermarket in Kursk. This is why Ukraine lost more than 100 settlements in a span of a few months, last fall.

Defenders of Kursk also like to talk about Pokrovsk, how it still stands. But these people do not pay attention to the maps. After the offensive stopped outside the gates of Pokrovsk, it took a sharp turn south and then West. Pokrovsk is now at risk of being flanked from its rear. Its satellite town of Selidovo has fallen, largely without a fight, and Mirnograd is being flanked as well.

cms neuf
7 Feb 2025  #1022

Wow Selidovo - the place where, according to drug addicted NN Nazis, there was a massacre of old women by French and Georgian mercenaries

tass.com/world/1888579/amp

That is probably the source of the rest of your nonsense

The Ukrainians are making way more progress than the drunk NNs. Your elite Koreans have gone home (well a few of them have at least lived to tell the tale of how crap your military command is)

Bobko
7 Feb 2025  #1023

Just to conclude - the Ukrainians sent their very best to Kursk - and they were stopped pretty much dead in their tracks by Russian irregulars.

That's right, the people that initially halted the Ukrainian push were Wagner elements, Akhmat (Kadyrovites), FSB (cops basically), SSO (special forces), and Kursk citizen militias.

Russian regular formations arrived only much later. Mainly these are the 810th Marine Infantry Brigade, and various VDV regiments. Once these guys finally made their way over, with all their heavy equipment, the Ukrainians started to be pushed back.

Bobko
7 Feb 2025  #1024

The Ukrainians are making way more progress than the drunk NNs.

On what planet, or in what parallel dimension does this statement hold true?

Did you miss Budanov (head of UA military intelligence), saying last week that if negotiations do not start within 6 months - Ukraine may begin to collapse as a state?

This was leaked from a parliamentary commission session, to the country's most respected newspaper. Now the SBU (UA's main intelligence agency), is investigating the leakers and threatening the newspaper.

Now why would Budanov say such a thing, if they "are making way more progress than the drunk NNs?"

Maybe the head of Ukraine's military intelligence knows something which CMS Neuf does not know?

cms neuf
7 Feb 2025  #1025

ukraine will still be here in 6 months

The North Nigerian Nazis will still be outside Pokrovsk. And they will still be drunk

mafketis
7 Feb 2025  #1026

ukraine will still be here in 6 months

And russia will still be a toilet and the lives of russian citizens will never get any better.....

russians don't mind living in a big toilet as long as they can sing themselves to sleep talking about what a great empire they are.... while _the_ crucial member of the "empire" no longer wants anything to do with russia.

Lazarus
7 Feb 2025  #1027

And russia will still be a toilet

Yes, but in six decades it's possible that most Russians will have learned how to use flushing toilets.

Novichok
7 Feb 2025  #1028

And russia will still be a toilet

I googled "Russia's poorest cities" and got this:

The highest poverty index was recorded in Tolyatti, the southern birthplace of Russia's bestselling and oft-derided Lada car.

So I went to Tolyatti to look for the cheapest hotel. Here is one:

google.com/maps/place/Three+Stars/@53.5564794,49.4526708,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPR4IOu3Gdl8CaejiMkiPVqAg0cgQKMK32bATro!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPR4IOu3Gdl8CaejiMkiPVqAg0cgQKMK32bATro%3Dw203-h270-k-no!7i3472!8i4624!4m13!1m2!2m1!1shotels+near+Tolyatti,+Russia!3m9!1s0x4167d6193a9b8753:0xc22b0d086ace3c9e!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d53.5564794!4d49.4526708!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqs2c5?hl=en&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIwNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Three Stars...I could stay there...in the cheapest hotel that is located in the poorest part of Russia.

Conclusion:

You are a moron with an advanced RDS.

pawian
7 Feb 2025  #1029

Three Stars

Three stars in imperial Russia is like half a star in civilised countries. Simple.

Novichok
7 Feb 2025  #1030

Three stars in imperial Russia is like half a star in civilised countries. Simple.

You Polish POS...if you bothered to look it up, you would know, you moron, that Three Stars is the hotel name...not the rating...

GFY...Simple...

mafketis
7 Feb 2025  #1031

Meanwhile the russian press is putting stories about how it's normal and good to use donkeys on the frontline....

x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1887612499446411413

Poor critters.... I feel worse for them than for any russian soldier....

And here's russia in all its splendor... in Chita were over 100 families had to crap in buckets for two years because the local government was too stupid or broke to build an outhouse....

x.com/inexorable_swe/status/1868496355343135065

Novichok
7 Feb 2025  #1032

How Donald Trump launched an airstrike to wipe out an ISIS mastermind with the stroke of his Sharpie
These killers, who we found hiding in caves, threatened the United States and our Allies,' he posted on Truth Social.

In Somalia...in the mountains...where the rats can hide...Yes, it can be done.

So I have a question for my Russian friends...

Why the fvck is Z still alive?

Do we have to send you the instructions how to take care of the POS or can you figure out how to do it on your own?

Did I mention that I love Trump, the US, and its big fist?

No, we didn't go to the ICC and never will.

Novichok
7 Feb 2025  #1033

UK trying to prevent peace - Ukrainian MP
Foreign Secretary David Lammy's goal in Kiev was to derail efforts to resolve the conflict, Aleksandr Dubinsky has claimed

According to him, Lammy's "urgent" visit to Kiev as well as Vladimir Zelensky's "urgent" interview with British media "were necessary to prevent a peaceful settlement" and to "discredit" a US-backed push for a ceasefire being led by President Donald Trump's envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg.


At the top of my hate list is not Germany or Russia. It's the UK.

007 should have been shot dead in the first movie.

Memo to Brits: Wars are not a movie, you scumbags. In wars, people die...

amiga500
8 Feb 2025  #1034

Ruski scumbags.

A Russian singer who called Vladimir Putin an "idiot" and allegedly donated to the Ukrainian military has died after falling from the window of his 10th-floor apartment, according to reports.
Vadim Stroykin fell to his death during police searches over his alleged links to Ukraine, Russian media outlets said on Thursday.

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1035

and allegedly donated to the Ukrainian military

...allegedly jumped from the 10th floor balcony to test the law of gravity.

Alien
8 Feb 2025  #1036

test the law of gravity.

I can fly......he thought so.

mafketis
8 Feb 2025  #1037

falling from the window of his 10th-floor apartment,... during police searches

Just a death cult.... that's all russia is now...

How do they work this into their propaganda about russia being safe?

If you keep your piehole closed you probably won't be pushed out of a window....

Who wants that sick and depraved culture?

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1038

Just a death cult.... that's all russia is now...

I will take Russia with your imaginary death cult over the very real suicide-by-migrants cult that invaded and spread like Covid in Western "democracies" - the dictatorial woke fascist shitholes that somehow forgot to ask their citizens if they wanted all that foreign garbage in their towns.

The difference: Russia can stop. Western "democrapies" are stuck with their migrant gifts from hell.

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1039

I can fly......he thought so.

Some men think they can get pregnant so I am not surprised...

PolAmKrakow
8 Feb 2025  #1040

It looks like Z wants to make a deal with Trump for rare earths. This makes sense. Paying the US is something taxpayers wont complain about. The only question is if Z makes a deal before Vlad makes a deal? I still say by the end of June this is over. Someone is going to make a deal, and Trump is the one who will set most of the terms.

So, if you live in Russia, and you know that publicly criticizing Vlad could get you tossed from a window, why would you be dumb enough to risk that happening? If you want to be critical and could have an accident, probably best to leave the area before opening your pie hole.

Bobko
8 Feb 2025  #1041

make a deal with Trump for rare earths.

The majority are now under Russian control. Can't trade what you do not control.

publicly criticizing Vlad could get you tossed from a window, why would you be dumb enough to risk that happening?

Also hard for me to understand.

As I said many times - there is only one rule in Russia. DO NOT F*CK WITH POLITICS. Dangerous for your health.

Anything else you want to do, go and do it. You'll be even more free than in America.

Korvinus
8 Feb 2025  #1042

the dictatorial woke fascist shitholes that somehow forgot to ask their citizens if they wanted all that foreign garbage in their towns

Hate to break it to you, my American, uneducated friend, but EU does not have common immigration policy and Brussels can't enforce any decision in the matter, as proven by Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary repeatedly vetoing any notion of introducing migrant quotas.

What you mistakingly identify as decisions of the EU are decisions of local goverments. It is Paris, not Brussels, that chooses to allow migrations from its former colonies.

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1043

Hate to break it to you, my American, uneducated friend, but EU does not have common immigration

I love to break it to you, my Polish idiot, but I didn't mention the EU. I referred to "Western democrapies" to exclude Poland, for example.

It is Paris, not Brussels, that chooses to allow migrations from its former colonies.

Because the French are morons. They do it voluntarily without asking French citizens if it's OK to let the hordes in.

The German, Danish, and Swedish colonies were much smaller so their stupidity was less...stupid.

pawian
8 Feb 2025  #1044

I love to break it to you

I hate to break it to you but it`s not going to be an open casket funeral! Ha!!!

mafketis
8 Feb 2025  #1045

DO NOT F*CK WITH POLITICS

Yet here you are....... F*CKING WITH POLITICS..... and somehow you're not afraid of "falling" out of a window.

You know who doesn't F*CK with POLITCS? Sheep.... russians are pathetic sheeple....

majority are now under Russian control.

Biden had no motive for the war to end... now Trump has a motive to shove russia around.

Will he act on it? Hard to say... he has a narcissist's natural sympathy for crappy dictators but russians (read: putain) cannot resist the urge to humiliate heads of state and Trump does hold grudges....

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1046

now Trump has a motive to shove russia around.

Trump wants Trump Casino in Moscow. It will take friends like my hero, Putin, to pull this off...

Crow
8 Feb 2025  #1047

Good that God love Poland very much and that He installed Trump which won`t push Poland in some shi*y war. Its hard to us Serbs to save Poland only on us alone. Poland needed miracle.

Korvinus
8 Feb 2025  #1048

Because the French are morons.

You're projecting. Due to colonial past, France is letting in hundreds of thousands of people from the former empire.

We had no colonies. Neither Blacks nor Arabs deluge us, because they feel no linguistic and cultural proximity.

mafketis
8 Feb 2025  #1049

France is letting in hundreds of thousands of people from the former empire

Which is dumb as fkkk.... France owes former colonies nothing (apart from not interfering in their domestic issues).

We had no colonies.

How many colonies did Sweden have?

Neither Blacks nor Arabs deluge us, because

The Polish social benefits (welfare) system is very threadbare... life as a welfare dependent petty criminal in Germany is still lightyears ahead of many third world countries so.... life as a welfare dependent petty criminal in Poland... not so tempting.

Novichok
8 Feb 2025  #1050

France is letting in hundreds of thousands of people from the former empire.

French are morons since they don't have to.
How many colonies did Sweden have?

They tried several times.

Sweden invaded Poland multiple times, including in 1617, 1621, 1626, 1655, and 1701

That didn't work so they colonized Somalia.

That's what morons do.

life as a welfare dependent petty criminal in Poland... not so tempting.

I am shocked that the EU is not suing Poland for xenophobia and racism.


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