Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

I think having any nukes is enough of a detterent for RuSSia against doing stupid things. The threat of nuking a few RuSSian cities would be enough.


I agree, it did look like a PF argument and not a diplomatic meeting that was supposed help to end a war. It was retarded, completely unnecessary and irresponsible. These two shouldn't be allowed to attend such meetings - they're just not fit for it. They should send experienced, responsible professionals to make deals on their behalf...

I have never seen anything like this... Unbelievable...


I think it was Trump's and Vance's performance for their voters, unfortunately. They care more about their political ratings than ending this war it seems ;(((

So... European as*holes...

Who was right all these years? Bobko or you?

Happy to continue sucking American penis? Yes?

I've been telling you they are hyenas. Not just them, but their British mothership too.

Witness their ugly ways. Only with us, with Russia, can you bring them back to their senses so they behave more normally as in 1945-1991.

Baaaarf!!!!
That was the only reasonable reply. :):):)

We tried that. Didn't like it much.

USA may be a crappy ally but they still didn't stoop to the Russian level.

You were.


No.


So what's the plan? You have our attention. We're listening.

With such a post you prevent those Europeans who are not a,,holes to address your post.

It is temporary. Until Golden Cow Trump is removed.

It was so shocking that it makes me think that maybe they they didn't really want to make this deal? I don't know...


I wouldn't be so sure... But honestly I have no idea...


Exactly... WTF was that...

Don't be so touchy, Iron. Let's listen to the plan.

My dude, but RuSSia is worse... Your country is the epitome of machiavellianism and sociopathy. RuSSia can be trusted even less... And you don't have proper elections... Trump can at least be booted out.

I want to invade America now. That's how I think many people in Russia and Ukraine feel.

It is unusual. Maybe the reaction is not the same if you read text and did not watch the video...

I hate Zelensky. I think he is a fool, and a puppet.

But the way they humiliated him, and him responding in his Russian accent... that made my blood boil.

They have lost all fear, or they are clueless.

Ukraine can keep fighting on for a long time after America abandons it - this is the truth. If they ever make a deal with us, it will be for different reasons.

What plan? He has no plan, Russia has the same old plan, which means no serious offer for Poland. That is an eternal problem with our dealing with Russia.
So, the only option is to build up the Polish military as needed, including nukes, get closer cooperation with key countries of the region like Sweden, Romania and Turkey. Need to be implemented, simple.

What?

The plan was always the same.

Russian and Polish troops marching in the same column.

Yes... And we all know they did that, because they knew they could allow themselves to do that - because his country is at their mercy... Which made it even more disgusting...

Wow I am agreeing with Paulina!

Soon the asteroid must hit.

We need nukes for that as well. Otherwise, it's more than certain that Poland will become a target of the western nukes.

If Poland is allied with Russia... the minute the first nukes fall on your territory - there will be a nuclear retaliation.

I think this is obvious.

It just means you cannot use nukes first.

That is the way the cookie crumbles. In the same way the US sold down the river, a large part of the world because it wasn't theirs to sell. Another day, another deal.
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It is not necessarily true. It all depends on circumstances, only nukes in Poland's hands, guarantee that if some nukes hit Poland, someone will be hit by the Polish nukes

A natural reaction of any decent man after watching this.


Maybe he has. Let's see.


We would probably need some more details. What with Ukraine? Will Russia join the EU? Will the EU join BRICS? How exactly will it work? What with Putin? Can we count on you in terms of nuclear sharing program or preferential energy deals? Details, Bobi.

After this Trump-Vance sh*tshow on the telly, you have 5 minutes of Europe's attention. We're listening.

I think they did but they wanted to completely humiliate Zelensky in the process because he dared to put his own views across. They don't like people that talk back.

And he stood up to golden cow bullies. How Polish!!! Simply utterly amasing!

He's a Volhyn genocide denier and probably a crypto-banderist too, but at the moment I don't care about it. I am willing to let this one grudge, so deeply ingrained in my heart, go and kiss my brother, Włodzimierz Zieliński, on both cheeks after today.

0_0... I can't believe I've just said that... but I really mean it.

Is it temporary though? Trump's voters won't be going anywhere... So the US may be a volatile ally even in the long run...


It would be insane if that was the reason...

I have no plan of course, or if I did - it would scarcely have a chance of being executed.

However, what I think is that:

1) Trump is bluffing

2) He's backed himself into a corner with cost savings. Even if Zelensky agrees to a mineral deal, and then Russia escalates - America's guarantees will promptly get tested and found lacking. Because Trump will not authorize new hundreds of billions to resist Russia's offensive after he made so much noise about saving money.

3) Russia has been raising 300-400K men annually during the last 2 years. Many went to replenishing losses in frontline units. Some say up to 70-80%. But the remaining numbers have been kept in Russia's rear and undergoing proper, "regular training times and are being equipped with fresh equipment while frontline units are forced to improvise. This force is not being created "for no reason".

4) Finally - there is NO WAY ANYONE CAN WIN AGAINST US. You tried 40 countries and draining all your stockpiles under Biden. Trump has a really sh*tty hand to play now, unless he wants to send US troops and start a war with Russia. A war we will also win.

Exactly. Tell us what happened to PIS voters in 2023. :):):)

When the little Jew crossed the line...From Drudge Report:

OVAL OFFICE SHOUTING MATCH
TRUMP BLASTS 'DISRESPECTFUL' ZELENSKY
'YOU'RE GAMBLING WITH WWIII'
PEACE TALKS COLLAPSE
KREMLIN CELEBRATES
VIDEO: THE MELTDOWN

The White House said the Ukrainians wanted to start the talks again, but they were told no.

Hey, Vlad, don't worry...You have a friend in the US.

I am so proud of Trump.

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yuck, are you into man Torq? I'm not sorry for Z. He's a mayor ah-ole and had it coming.
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To normal people yes, but Zelensky hadn't been quite grateful enough or said 'thank you' enough for those two. They didn't want to listen to his viewpoints full stop. I think they expected him to be completely acquiescent and didn't like it when he wasn't.


I think many others will be feeling the same.

There is no way anyone can win against North Nigeria ?

Well except the Japanese, Finns, Afghans, Poles, Kaisers Germany.

Who cares how many men you have lined up - drug addicted alkie farm boys and pensioners.

Speaking of which what happened to the battle hardened elite North Koreans ?