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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19



Paulina
28 Feb 2025  #811

I am willing to (...) go and kiss my brother, Włodzimierz Zieliński, on both cheeks after today.

I felt like hugging him when he went quiet at the end knowing that there's no point in arguing with these people, because they don't care what he has to say... They just wanted to shout over him... He definitely has more class than them.

That's all good and nice, but hugs and words of sympathy won't end this war... So what now?

Apparently Zelensky is going to the UK next and there will be a meeting of EU leaders? I hope that emotions will cool down and they will figure out what to do next... I also hope that Zelensky knows what he's doing and is being realistic (as in - doesn't count on the EU too much? I don't know...)

*very heavy sigh*

Exactly. Tell us what happened to PIS voters in 2023. :):):)

They didn't drop dead, they're still here - they just lost one parliamentary elections. They will most probably also lose presidential elections, but we don't know what will happen in a few years.

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #812

This force is not being created "for no reason".

Of course. We know that. We're not idiots.

NO WAY ANYONE CAN WIN AGAINST US.

Admirable patriotism. Of course whether this statement is true or not depends on many factors (like defining "win") but that is not especially important at the moment. What is important though is that with proper diplomacy the war between the EU and Russia can be avoided and Europe can free herself from the necessity of - as you poetically put it - sucking American penis.

But for that to happen a plan has to be devised. For Russia, Ukraine, Poland and the rest of Europe. I appreciate that it's not easy to come up with such plan right away. Take your time.

yuck, are you into man Torq?

I will say it the second time today: nie wkurwiaj mnie.

He's a mayor ah-ole and had it coming.

He is also a president of a country fighting bravely for its very life who was humiliated like a dog by two scoundrels thinking they rule the world. This evokes immense sympathy for the man despite all his possible flaws (who doesn't have them?).

@Velund

Grubo but funny :)

jon357
28 Feb 2025  #813

But the way they humiliated him

They tried to, however he retained his dignity and the sympathies of viewers worldwide will certainly be with him. People may start to understand what he has to deal with rather than reading orc propaganda about drugs and outright lies about money.

They didn't want to listen to his viewpoints full stop

Basically trumpet is furious since nothing he's boasted that he's going to achieve has happened, the negotiations over the invasion of Ukraine e are not going his or r*SSia's way and his domestic policies are turning out to be a disaster and alienating the public there, especially the 'dogs' stuff.

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #814

So what now?

... a good question, Paulina.

Maybe, unknowingly, we witnessed something historical today. A sh*tshow, yes, but a sh*tshow that maybe opened eyes of many people in Europe and beyond. Let's wait and see what happens.

Velund
28 Feb 2025  #815

Maybe, unknowingly, we witnessed something historical today.



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Vesko Vukovic
28 Feb 2025  #816

For anyone that hasn't seen what I was talking about in post #755:

Lol, what a sweeping of the floor with Zelensky. I felt sorry for him at times. He proved to be a miserable little clown.

There are two things that stand out to me - why do this crap in front of camera?

Now, was this supposed to be this public..? Trump loves reality TV f*ck it.

However, Trump, guided by the Holy Spirit and illuminated by God's providence, cannot allow himself to be fooled by some kind of piano dick players.

Epoilogue: Zelensky kicked out of the White House after he refused to sign an agreement on minerals. I hope they used sh*tty poles.

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #817

@Veli

OK, the first joke I got. This one, not really... and here Trump understood why the Special Operation started. I don't get it.

Velund
28 Feb 2025  #818

I don't get it.



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Torq
28 Feb 2025  #819

... oh, right.

The first one was better. ;)

pawian
28 Feb 2025  #820

we don't know what will happen in a few years.

The same what happened in 2023 in Poland. Simple.

Bobko
28 Feb 2025  #821

Honestly - Ukraine cooked itself before it had to.

Zelensky may be morally right, but he did a very stupid thing.

Korvinus
28 Feb 2025  #822

Your war. Deal with it. Enjoy your refugees and fvck off.

That's the thing. For cattle like you it's enough to say Trump is anti gays, trans and blacks.

Then you'll accept everything: dismantling of US global position, realigning the country with Russia and North Korea, liquidating the most basic healthcare for Americans, sacking the employees responsible for nuclear security, extinguishing any safeguards against corruption of government officials.

Example: Musk uses his control over the government to gutt the exact agencies that controled and pushed back against his businesses. This is an obvious conflict of interests and if some Democrat did that, retards like you would spit blood. But because he is 'antiwoke' you'll accept everything he does and behave like a good doggy (sorry, doge).

Vesko Vukovic
28 Feb 2025  #823

Zelensky

He showed that he was a fool.

Before the elections, he clearly supported and lobbied for Biden, practically participated in his campaign.
Now the country and the people are hanging by a thread in the balance and he came to argue with the most powerful man in the world in his house??!

Total jerk.

Novichok
28 Feb 2025  #824

Zelensky may be morally right, but he did a very stupid thing.

Z thinks he and T are equal.

What an arrogant prick...

pawian
28 Feb 2025  #825

but he did a

He is Polish by character. Standing up to bullies is imprinted in our genes.

Novichok
28 Feb 2025  #826

Standing up to bullies is imprinted in our genes.

And 200,000 Poles die...hey, who gives a fvck...it felt good for a couple of weeks...

OK, a month...

Once a Polak. always a moron

cms neuf
28 Feb 2025  #827

Do you think the guy with the biggest house in Illinois and a bigger fake ass Lexus is your superior, or do you consider yourself his equal ?

Of course Zelensky is going to stick up for Ukrainians. He is not some pussy yes man.

pawian
28 Feb 2025  #828

Z thinks he and T are equal.

Exactly not! Heroic Zelensky is much superior to Golden Cow Trump.

Velund
28 Feb 2025  #829

Show must go on, anyway....

pawian
28 Feb 2025  #830

And 200,000 Poles die

Even more died for independent Poland.
And they won!!!! HA!!!!

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #831

Z thinks he and T are equal.

They are certainly not equal.

If Trump was in Zelensky's position in 2022 he would sh*t himself i spierdalałby z Kijowa pierwszą taksówką ha ha

Besides, Zelensky is not a convicted felon, so yes - they're certainly not equal.

He is Polish by character.

"Wiedział ja, że to dobry chłopak"...

dobry chłopak

... he he ;)

Ironside
28 Feb 2025  #832

Zelensky may be morally right, but he did a very stupid thing.

I think he acts more like a star, not a statesman.
Hasn't learned that much, still big ego or is that delusion of grandeur.
Also, meeting in front of the camera is not the right time to argue a point.
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nie wkurwiaj mnie.

Who cares about your fragile state of mind? It is your problem, I'm not your mama.
Get better, your mood changes every five minutes.
It is acceptable to some extent in a woman, and annoying in a grown, mature man
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Z thinks he and T are equal.

You have completely missed the point.

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #833

annoying in a grown, mature man

Are you trying to hurt my feelings, Iron?

Neither my mood nor state of mind is any of your concern; but if you keep being an arsehole, first implying that I don't know Polish culture and now suggesting that I'm homosexual, then I can be very rude too (regardless of my current mood). So, f*ck off and don't annoy me. Unless you want to keep "exchanging pleasantries". No problem.

Anyways, getting back to president Zelensky - as you probably noticed there is a general consensus that he gained immense sympathy all over the world (even in Russia). I bet that's not what Trump wanted to achieve.

jon357
28 Feb 2025  #834

I think he acts more like a star, not a statesman

Or even the opposite.

Anyway, he was not elected as a career politician. He was elected as a successful businessman and actor who was outside the traditional world of politics.

Hasn't learned that much, still big ego or is that delusion of grandeur.

He's one of the most respected people in the world who has successfully held off a vicious r*SSian invasion. He has a right to be proud.

And no, he certainly doesn't have a "delusion orf grandeur". If he did, he would probably have himself photographed half-naked on a horse or perhaps buy a solid gold toilet.

Barney
28 Feb 2025  #835

If Poland is allied with Russia... the minute the first nukes fall on your territory - there will be a nuclear retaliation.

The thing about Russia (agree with them or not) is that they stick with their allies.

Zelensky was way too restrained, this mineral deal is dead the US has sold him out so he had nothing to loose. Good luck to the US in getting its money back now.

Ironside
28 Feb 2025  #836

Are you trying to hurt my feelings, Iron?

No, I'm talking in a very roundabout way that I don't care about your feelings and being so long on PF, and knowing me for a considerable amount of time, you should be aware of the fact. If you are annoyed, drink some cold water and get to the point. Don't waste time on nonsense if you don't know how to play PF style.
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I bet that's not what Trump wanted to achieve.

I think Trump wanted to achieve more support from his electorate and I think he succeeded. I don't think that Trump cares as much or at all about feelings of foreigners and so-called liberals all over the world.
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Or even the opposite.

You say that because you don't like Trump.
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He has a right to be proud.

A little too much and it doesn't help his country.

Korvinus
28 Feb 2025  #837

The thing about Russia (agree with them or not) is that they stick with their allies.

Or at least that's what Russians tell you.
Your cynicism makes you blind to an obvious difference between coercion and willing cooperation.

Russians also don't grasp this vital difference, and that's why they're surprised every time their 'allies' (which they previously coerced into cooperation) ditch them at the first possible opportunity.

Barney
28 Feb 2025  #838

@Korvinus
If Russia stands by it allies even if the situation changes. If an unfriendly government replaces a friendly one they stick with the former incumbent.

cms neuf
28 Feb 2025  #839

North Nigeria sticks with its allies - Nazi Germany, North Korea, Iran, Syria, ethnic cleansing Serbs, Eritrea etc

Torq
28 Feb 2025  #840

The thing about Russia (agree with them or not) is that they stick with their allies.

Generally I would say the same thing but recently people of Armenia might disagree with that.

Things in the world are changing too fast. That's why we need nukes. Nothing is certain anymore.


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