Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20

The USSR occupied Eastern Poland so it would not fall into German hands.


This forum taught me to never trust Polaks and always trust Russians.

Hence, I trust Putin but not US MICC.

Nope.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland


Also, since people keep misusing the Zaolzie case:

How do you know that this:


...was not one of the reasons?

Or am I talking to a male version of Paulina?

No, I didn't say it was the only reason.

Could you stop thinking and speaking of sucking russian dicks for a minute, commisar sucko?

Personal insults from a stupid Polak who is unable to offer anything else...Nothing new or shocking...

You're a Russian supporter and enemy of the West. You spread disinfo like a normal person breathes.

Name one...

While people here argue about decades old questions.... the UK is the latest country to learn what happens when they let russians in....

sensors probably tracking nuclear submarines are found in UK territorial waters, there is speculation that superyachts of russian oligarchs were used....

russians.... they make every country worse (waiting for a counter example).

x.com/nexta_tv/status/1908840211737379316

@Korvinus
If the USSR did not invade Eastern Poland, what country would occupy it?

Russia.

There was no such thing as "complete reversal". In the end of 1930's forceful ukrainisation changed to softer "mode", so poor ukrainian speaker had chances not to be fired from job positions in state structures only due to "not enough knowledge of ukrainian". And once someone came to get birth certificate for a newborn, for example, parents not receive certificate with "ukrainised" family name of their child "by default and without right to choose" as it was few years before.

Paulina, it sounds like you are trying to argue about the taste of bananas with someone who has eaten them (unlike you). How many relatives do you have in the east of present-day ukraine, if it is not a secret? I have dozens of them, around Krivoy Rog and Dnepropetrovsk (fcuk the newly invented Ukrainian names of these cities). Did you had a chances to talk about the past with someone who was born before 1910, for example, and lived there?

@Korvinus
If anyone is sucking cox it you sucking EU cox.

In 1939?


Smart people observe these simple rules...

Never tell a Frenchman how to make cheese.
Never tell an Italian how to make pizza.
Never tell a Pole how to make tartar.
Never tell a Russian how to be Russian.

Meanwhile.... russians who love their motherland and completely support it's ethnocidal war against Ukraine.... do whatever they can to get out of russia....

cepa.org/article/russians-discover-a-backdoor-to-europe/

Maybe Lithuania should take the advice of a certain poster here who likes to share his violent fantasies and shoot any civilian disembarking from the train. Lithuania can't just have russians using their country as a freeway to better countries.

A new big problem for russian hospitals! Ever larger numbers of wounded soldiers are showing up.... and act like russian soldiers, threatening other patients with violence, robbing themn, calling in prostitutes....

Why is every single thing I find about russia..... this?

x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1908938692984463594

There was. And more than that.


Velund, I see you don't understand something - I don't believe a word of what you're saying, because you've lied, twisted and bullsh1tted before (just like other Putinists on this forum) and I don't even know who you are and what you're doing here. What I'm likely to believe are sources that are considered objective (enough). I don't consider your "word of mouth" as an objective or even a verifiable source. How am I supposed even know whether your relatives told you this or that? Those are just your words. Obviously, I don't trust RuSSian-state approved sources or the media either. So, do you have anything else to prove your claims, besides: "my grandpa who told me" and Putin-approved propaganda?


We are in the EU o_O So are we sucking on ourselves? :D


Oh dear, I see you're losing it :D 😎

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Why do you bother engaging with Velund at all?

What's the point - for Velund - to come to a Polish forum and lie about what happened to his grandparents? I would think that he has better things to do.

@Bobko, just as Novichok has better things to do than to come to a Polish forum and lie about women? lol


For the same reason I bother to engage with Novichok (and with you, among others).

@Paulina

Velund is correct.

Lenin and Stalin placed a bomb under the Soviet Union with their policy of fostering every type of nationalism.

Some progressive Soviet policies were good. Like enfranchising and empowering women before the West did. Others were less useful - like lashing yourself for perceived "colonialism".

@Bobko, but I'm not debating with Velund about whether fostering nationalisms for some time by the Soviet Union was good or bad, in case you haven't noticed :)


He's clearly not correct about the things that I've disputed (or prove me wrong).

Wow, in the USA, they supported a significant independence movement like the Confederation. What are you babbling about? You have a very limited understanding of those things, and you're yapping some cheap slogans. Poland was doing its job as a serious state-good. I wish Poland was as serious a state today as it was back then.
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That actually is a VERY GOOD point. I'm surprised it comes from you.
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Well, for all purposes he was more vicious than Hitler.
He simply lacked his means. As who turned Bandera into what? We can see that in Ukainie today he is idolized with his status elevated everywhere.
That what makes it serious because Ukraine Will Nilli insists he is their hero. They could easily dismiss him as some minor political figure and half-successful genocidal maniac but Ukrainians are making him something bigger. So cut the crap!
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I'm sure you learned to be a troll and spammer long before you started posting on this site.
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Not only Velund. She is doing it to everyone. If he can **** off a Pole while talking about Polish history, I guess pissng of Russians or whomever talking about russian history is just peace of cake. Here comes a solution - she engages here with people to **** them off! Case solved.
Hey, she is like Novi.
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The point Paulina is trying to make. (or the point she should be making) is that so-called Ukrainization was a part of Soviet policy of the centralized Soviet state, and as such you can't shift the blame on Ukrainians involved.
They are partly responsible but the main responsibility lies with the central soviet government and because we are in Russia (Soviet of no) with one person.
It means whoever was in charge at the time is responsible for those policies. Simple.
I guess neither Velunt nor you are very interested in saying that Stalin F it up for you.

It was Lenin decision, and he tried to solve two problems at once - get (buy in fact) support from ukrainian nationalistic fraction in RCP(b) in internal party affairs and "dilute" malorossian peasants with loyal to RCP(b) proletariate from Donbass and Novorossia.
RCP(b) was ideological "backbone" of state structures of that time.

Stalin come later, and "soften" many things (with repressions to a hyperactive ultra-nationalistic elements, mostly linked with IV International, as well).

Lenin was a papal who*e.

Stalin was there from the beginning.

He was head of NarKomNats, or the People's Commissariat for Nationalities. He just had a more "Southern" and "Eastern" focus, so called «отсталые национальности» (retrograde nationalities).

Ukraine was more exclusively Lenin's domain, while Stalin was busy with various Chuvashes, Azeris, Uzbeks, Bashkirs etc.

"Ultra nationalists" (who Stalin and Lenin first encouraged), were only dealt with starting in the 1930s.

If you look the execution lists - most of these "ultra nationalists" were considered good Bolsheviks just 7-10 years prior.

Bobko and Velund, if somebody dropped me off in the middle of the Red Square for a week, which passport would serve me better: Polish or the US?

You'd be fine with either - so long as you do not commit crimes.

Thanks.

Since nothing is exactly equal, my bet would be on the US passport.

Russians should know by now that Russia can negotiate with Americans but not with the mentally scarred fanatics.

Did you visit Russia lately? If so, do they take US credit cards?