Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21

Just in: according to a Levada Center Poll.... "71% of Russians consider their existence to be miserable or on the verge of it."

more:

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how cool is moscow again?

Let's go for a walk in the worst Russian city of 10k or more.

You pick it...

Don't show me a lonely shack without running water. We have plenty of those in "America".

russian hatred of honest work by honest people never fails to amaze me....

80% of Hollywood's beautiful millionaires are on drugs and depressed. Many are suicidal...

Try again...

Moscow has said that a lasting peace will only be possible if Ukraine abandons its plans to join NATO and renounces its claim to Crimea and four former Ukrainian regions that voted to become part of Russia.

In 2022, Russia wanted only Crimea. It was stupid to say no to Russia.

Say it again, and Russia will add Kiev to the list.

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

The whole O9A-Atomwaffen-Azov nexus probably started out as a CIA pet project, but is now firmly in the hands of the SBU. Both Russia and the USA have underestimated the SBU at every turn - a fatal error, because, if you are familiar with the underbelly of post-Perestroika intelligence history, the SBU is the actual institutional successor of the Soviet KGB, and has retained far more of its resources and institutional knowledge, whereas the Russian FSB was rebuilt from zero.

It's the same playbook every time: D.C. arms and trains the extremists, then acts shocked when they go rogue. Yesterday it was mujahideen turning into Al Qaeda, now it's Ukrop spooks whispering into the ears of deranged American teens.

Only this time the freaks have real backup in the form of a powerful intelligence agency that knows exactly what it's doing

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

Turns out the people grooming American teens into occult terrorism and presidential assassination plots aren't some accelerationist satanic cult; it's just Ukrainian intelligence agents.

A bit outside the usual scope of American moral panics, but here we are

Margarita Simonyan
@M_Simonyan

Nikita Casap, the teen who murdered his parents in Wisconsin in February and plotted to assassinate Trump, wasn't acting alone.

FBI records show he was in contact with Ukrainians, discussing how to carry out the attack and frame it as a Russian operation. He also asked how soon he could flee to Ukraine afterward - and whether he'd be able to have a normal life there.

This should have been headline news. No mainstream media outlet has touched these public records.





Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

You imagine a dark underworld of cultists luring kids into demon worship and apocalyptic violence, but in reality, it's just some guy in an SBU office in Kiev telling extremely online teenagers to kill Trump

Ironic isn't it? The ones losing WWII are living in infininetely better circumstances than one the victorious powers. People in the former GDR used to pity the Soviet soldiers stationed in East Germany, and did so even more after the soldiers left and it became clear under which circumstances they had to live in their barracks.

1/4 of Russians don't have indoor plumbing. Something that I have to bring up again and again because it is such a mind boggling figure. There are many developing countries that have better infrastructure than that.

Maybe St. Petersburg and Moscow are all that (although quite a lot of people who went there told me otherwise, once one leaves the center). But why is that so? Because Russia extracts the ressources from its' provinces and uses them exclusively to the benefit of the elite living there. Hence you have a nice subway system in St Petersburg and only dirty, muddy roads leading to towns in the Far East.

Meanwhile other European countries make a point of assuring similiar living conditions for all its citizens no matter where they live. Sure some parts are more wealthy than others, but there'll be basic standards everywhere.

Which again brings us to Russia's corrupt leaders and imperialist distractions. Russia could almost look like a fully developed country nowadays if Putin had not decided to waste its' ressources on those imperial delusions.

There are no Russians, those are deluded eastern Ukrainians, there is no such state as Russia nor nationality like Russians - its a nazi idea stemming from Reichskommisariat Moskowien and they speak an Ukrainian dialect.

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That sounds familiar?

Everyday life in North Nigeria

youtube.com/watch?v=hVSZxRC5Fic&list=PL3qDBUL36AI3c1e02JKTxP78W_ihwBugx&index=16

Population of this shithole is almost 1 million.

Pitiful NN saps showing off their outhouses and standpipe

youtube.com/watch?v=ACS1bjPgkkg

This one was amazingly produced by the NN tourist office ! Smiling NNs living in 19th century conditions

youtube.com/watch?v=jv5WqK6xe-k

Hundreds of videos are available showing NN as the world's largest outdoor toilet

Considering what you did to them, be grateful that they showed more compassion to your criminal fathers and grandfathers than they deserved.

Occupying East Germamy was just a slap on your bloody wrist.

Using a 1 to 1 ratio, the Soviets should have executed 25 million Germans. The didn't. Say thank you... and STFU.

We do more them that. By supporting Ukraine we may also be able to help the Russians overcome their imperialist ways and choose a better future for their own country.

What did they do? There was a war. Between the two culprits of the World War. They started a war, getting what they wanted in the first stage, working arm in arm, and then
arguing for spoils or world domination, and fighting each other.
Germany doesn't owe the Soviets anything, they had their revenge on them. Simple.

Germany attacked the Soviet Union in 1941. The R-M non-aggression pact was part of their effort to avoid a war.


Today, nothing... On May 9, 1945, Germany owed the USSR 25 million human lives and the destruction of everything West of Moscow.


There was no two culprits...Or the US was helping one of the two criminals...


...and help kill as many Ukrainians as it takes...a true humanitarian...aren't you...

that's how russia has always been run, it's an inalienable part of russian culture.... without thieving elites (and placid sheeple masses) it's not russia, anymore, but something else....

Russians are killing Ukrainians. We are enabling them to fight back and to protect their cities from Russian missiles and drones.

Russia attacked Ukraine, and you are still squabbling about it. Why double standards here? The Soviets had it coming.
World War II started in September 1939, and Germany and Russia were allies for two years. They jointly attacked Poland.
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BS on steroids.
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That number they pulled out of their ass. There is no way Germany killed so many Soviet subjects. Even if the ratio of their military losses was 20 to one, it is still too much. Stalin just used a magic trick and a statistic to explain the human lives lost in the war, blaming it all on the Germans, while he killed a large chunk of those missing people.
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Is there are any doubt about it? Also, the US helped both Germany and the Soviets to build up their industry. American engineers were working in the Soviet Union before the war. A large investment in the German economy was made by Wall Street before the war.
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...because Ukrainians are in Russia.

Germany attacked Poland to exterminate some and turn others into slave labor.

Soviets entered Poland to create a defensive buffer and later a friendly country. Totally different objectives.

When Germans occupied Poland, many were send to death camps to die...

When the Soviets controlled Poland through their Polish collaborators, they helped rebuild Poland and gave me free education and healthcare.


How many Soviets died as a result of German aggression?

An adult who claimes X is a lie, must have a basis for it aka the truths. Go ahead...tell me the true number of Soviat war casualties.

In the meantime, while you are digging numbers out of your ass...

Quoting:

The Soviet Union suffered approximately 26-27 million deaths during World War II, with the majority being civilians. This includes around 8.7 million military deaths and 19 million civilian deaths.


Cut the crap and name US allies in May 1945.

This is the same nonsense people try to spout against China in the West. "Yes, Shanghai and other coastal cities must be very nice, but how about the interior of China? How about Tibet, or Xinjiang?"

Surprise, surprise - wealth is also concentrated in the West. London is a huge share of the UK's GDP. Paris is of France's. In America, the coastal domination is so extreme that people call the middle of the country "Flyover Country".

Even in New York, the state where I live now - the city maybe prospers, but upstate towns like Rochester, Schenectady, Syracuse, Binghamton, etc are suffering. Deindustrialization has hit them hard. There drug epidemics and mass unemployment, which does not get reported in statistics because those person have been unemployed and not looking for a job for such a long period that they fell out of the statistics.

Big cities drives innovation and progress. It has been this way since 8,000 BC. You don't have to make Moscow look like the product of parasitism. It's still a genuine achievement.

You mean the jobs that left the US because the US didn't have tariffs then to make outsourcing unattractive?

Hmmm... Somebody should write a thesis on how tariffs work. They do for the EU.

I am going to send an email to Trump...

Yeah, but this wealth is nevertheless used to provide poorer areas with a certain standard of amenities and infrastructure. Again, 1/4 of the Russian people do not have indoor plumbing. In 2025. Mind blowing.


But that is what Moscows' relationship with its' colonies actually looks like. Russia depends heavily on the ressources extracted from its' colonies, without giving anything back in return. Hence you have shiny Moscow and St. Petersburg, while further away from the imperial center the towns look like they are from a developing country.

The closest thing they came to investing into their colonies was when they started offering (relatively) huge amounts of money to any volunteers for Putin's war of agression against Ukraine. Which is of course tempting to those living in poverty, but will ultimately drain those colonies even more.

@Tacitus

As Bobko rightly pointed out, centralisation isn't unique for Russia. Go anywhere in Polish province - some district level town that used to be a vojvodship seat but isn't anymore (Poland went down from 49 to 16 voivodships in 1999) and you will hear how the region's capital, be it Poznań, Gdańsk or Warsaw, is sucking up all the resources.

Besides, Russia has made significant infrastructure investments in parts of the Far East, Siberia, and the Arctic, and it is much more difficult (and costly!) to build and maintain railroads and other infrastructure there than in some moderate climate sleepy Bavarian town. And I wouldn't call those remote parts of Russia "colonies". The term "colony" implies external governance and exploitation by a foreign nation, which doesn't really reflect Russia's internal structure. Remember how Bobko told us that there can be an eskimo-looking Siberian whose name is Ivan Ivanov and he considers himself Russian? This is true, so are they colonizing themselves? It isn't the 18th but 21st century.

Also, don't be such an arsehole about indoor plumbing. Large portion of Russian population lives in rural areas e.g. in Siberia - try to build and maintain a plumbing/sewer system in permafrost conditions. Good luck. Full indor plumbing isn't universal in rural areas even in richer countries than Russia.

What else... sorry for this being so chaotic but I'm away from home and typing this on my phone, its always less convenient for me... oh yes, the last thing you mention - financial incentive for military career for men from poorer regions. Funny reproach coming from a historian. Majority of every military have been recruited from provinces since when? Roman Empire?

Be fair, Tacitus. Russia is our enemy... well, under putinist regime anyway, but even so let's be fair. There's no honour in disrespecting and ridiculing your enemy.

Russia's army is in Russia.

No, it's not. Even US MICC is not claiming this crap anymore so knock it off, stupid Polak...

Russia did what the US did with Cuba. It drew a red line in front of NATO and said: Don't!

The rest is merely a consequence of ignoring that "Don't!".

Still lost? I have a story for you about bad Saddam, WMDs, and a war known for its Coalition of the Willing that, for some unknown reason, included Poland.

In Paris for a few days. Two observations. The only time I here Ukrainians is when I am at an exclusive restaurant or a few at Disney. Overall attitude of Parisians I have dealt with toward Americans has been great. Not one person making a critical comment about Trump, or him trying to end the war. But of course, all of Europe is united. Maybe politicians should actually start talking to people.

When this turmoil is over, Europe would belong to two or even three factions.

1. First and certain is Slavic ie Sarmatian civlization.

Two other, optional factions are:

2. Anglo civilization

3. Western European ie Franko civilization

Using any sort of racial/ethnic slurs is pure stupidity, but it takes a very special kind of retard to use them against people of your own ethnicity.

You are going on permanent ignore, Ryszardzie.

In a new architecture of Europe, western most border of Slavic ie Sarmatian civilization may be in the zone of old Eastern Frankia, established in the Treaty of Verdun, on 10 August 843, and Limes Sorabicus- the early border of Frankich (Germanic) expansion onto Slavic world, created in 805 year.

East Frankia



Limes Sorabicus

They are nevertheless providing basic amenities and infrastructure to the poorer regions unlike Russia.


Other wealthy countries with extreme climate manage to do this as well. This is a matter of priority, and evidently the Russian government places no priority on providing a decent standard of living to its' colonies. Instead the sank the money which they did not embezzle into the military and Putin's wars.


Which is the case in those areas. How else would you describe what happens in Chechnya? After brutally subjugating Chechnya, they put a puppet in charge who cracks down on the local population, while the Russians exploit the ressources. The profits certainly don't stay in Chechnya, instead they are sent to Moscow.


I can't really laugh when I watch yet another Russian meat assault being gunned down in a video. Again, Russia never made an attempt to improve their lot in life, and the reason why the recruitment campaign is so effective is because the living conditions are that bad. Dying for a Larda may seem silly to us, but when you earn less than 200$ it might seem more appealing.

As a side note, the Roman Empire - brutal as it was - was pretty effective in integrating the conquered territories. Which is why you ended up with Roman roads and aequaducts in the former wilderness of Britannica and Germania. While many Russians can only dream of access to modern infrastructure in their areas. If anything, their situation is only going to get worse, considering the lack of Russian investments in the last decade or so.

You have a very statist view on things. Russia is not Communist any more, but has a free market economy. It was the Soviet Union, that could build a hundreds-of-kilometers-long electrical line -- just so that some reindeer herder had power.

That is to say - resource allocation was a bit of a problem then.

The problems of the Russian regions, are largely the same as the problems of the American Rust Belt. They contain many so called "mono cities", or cities built around one massive enterprise. Examples include cities like Baikalsk (built completely around the Baikalsk Cellulose and Pulp Plant), Norilsk (centered on Norilsk Nickel), Toliatti (centered on Avtovaz, the producer of Lada). When heavy industry shuts down, due to economic, ecological, or other reasons - the city begins to slowly die, and investment slows to a trickle.

In New York State, where I live now, you have many cities that were destroyed in the same way. Rochester used to be a massive industrial center, centered on two huge corporations - Kodak and Xerox. When Kodak and Xerox died, Rochester began to die. Schenectedy was built around General Electric and American Locomotive. Binghamton started dying after IBM left. In Buffalo it was Bethlehem Steel's collapse that started the decline.

If you look a little further afield, there are towns like Detroit, like Flint, like Cleveland, like Youngstown, and so on and so forth.

This is what happens when industries and markets shift. Sounds to me like you want a return to Communism in Russia.


I suppose you are alluding to Norway here. It's not correct to compare Norway and Russia, since Norway is the European version of Kuwait. Norway produces 2 million barrels of oil per day, and Russia produces 11 million barrels per day. Norway has a population of 5 million people, and Russia has a population of 150 million people. Oil could never "feed" a country the size of Russia.


I don't know what profits you are talking about, but Chechnya certainly does not send any money to Moscow. Instead, Chechnya receives - every year - billions of dollars from the federal budget in the form of transfers. Initially, this was explained by the need for reconstruction, and catching Chechnya up with average federal incomes. Now, it looks more like an attempt by Putin to bribe Kadyrov for his loyalty.

Good.

I already asked posters who are not Americans or Russians not to respond to my posts.

So one more time:

If you are not an American or Russian, just ignore me.

I don't care what you think.