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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23



Ironside
26 Jun 2025  #121

It was always led by ruthlessly pragmatic people,

If the main and only goal is survival, congratulations. It is a rather basic and pointless existence.

Bobko
26 Jun 2025  #122

If the main and only goal is survival, congratulations

What does it matter, if the others die?

They are not there any longer to criticize you.

Seriously, if you study Russian history - you will understand that the princes of Muscovy were some of the hardest bastards in history.

They make Mongols and Apaches blush.

Ironside
26 Jun 2025  #123

What does it matter, if the others die?

It is a goodless existence, almost animalistic.

Bobko
26 Jun 2025  #124

almost animalistic

Haha!

Welcome to Russian history, where the worst instincts of man are given free reign.

Ironside
26 Jun 2025  #125

Welcome to Russian history, where the worst instincts of man are given free reign.

I would say that you don't stand alone in this regard.

Bobko
26 Jun 2025  #126

I would say that you don't stand alone in this regard.

Yes, we have our German and our American brothers. True.

But they are mere amateurs compared to us.

Germans stuffed OTHER people into ovens (okay, some Germans).

America bombed, incarcerated, and tortured OTHER people.

In Russia - just to show everybody that we truly mean business - we torture, imprison, and put into camps our OWN people.

Understand the difference? The nuance?

Next time you want to compete with Russia in the Cruelty Olympics - do your homework first.

Ironside
26 Jun 2025  #127

Next time you want to compete with Russia in the Cruelty Olympics

It is not competition, there are no medals, and no first, second, or third places.
It is funny, like you and the Germans strive to take the first place, no matter what it is. As if trying to prove something, there must be a hidden inferiority complex.
Do you feel that you lack something or somehow as a nation?
Relax, life is like a good wine to be enjoyed slowly; only then is it sweet. After all, in the end, all people die, those from first, second, and last place.
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Understand the difference? The nuance?

I know you find some pride in that, like most Russians. I must have made some very insightful remarks.

Bobko
26 Jun 2025  #128

It is not competition, there are no medals, and no first, second, or third places.

This is only your opinion.

It is funny, like you and the Germans strive to take the first place, no matter what it is.

I apologize. What exactly is funny?

As if trying to prove something, there must be a hidden inferiority complex

My psychiatrist gave me a note certifying I am 100% mentally stable.

mafketis
26 Jun 2025  #129

In Russia - - we torture, imprison, and put into camps our OWN people.

Who, besides russians, wants to live like that?

of course any nation that can will run away at light speed....

Ironside
26 Jun 2025  #130

This is only your opinion.

Indeed, and it is the only opinion that matters.
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I apologize. What exactly is funny?

I find it funny. When racism is on top, Germans are the most racist racists; when woke is on top, Germans are the most wokiest woke.
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My psychiatrist gave me a note certifying I am 100% mentally stable.

I'm talking about the Russian collective psyche.

Mr Grunwald
26 Jun 2025  #131

We, Poles, have memory of an elephant -

Not only that, but everything done and unpunished towards any large Slavic state like Russia will easily be seen as possible to do versus, Poland, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Serbia or Belarus. It is in all those countries interest for Russia not to suffer too much at the hand of the west. Cause they would be next...

Novichok
27 Jun 2025  #132

From RT.com:

Putin's challenge cuts deeper: capitalism's traditional "produce more, consume more" logic has hit its planetary and social limits, and Moscow is calling time on the illusion that endless expansion can continue unopposed.

Even starker are the material constraints. The capitalist appetite is infinite; the planet's resources are not.


The irony: This coming from an ex-Soviet KGB agent - smarter than all the Wall Street wizards combined...with that 36T unpayable debt...

And a reader's comment:

West´s biggest obsessions are their hate towards Whites, heterosexuals, men, and anything traditional.

That´s why Western leftards/globalists do not like Eastern Europeans (mainly Russians).


cms neuf
27 Jun 2025  #133

So what is the philosophical position on the we'll documented NN war crimes in Ukraine ? A necessary task ? A sign of strength of the NN state ?

Or were they because some nonsense about capitalism and persecuting heterosexuals ?

All the drunk nonsense here just shows what the civilized world is fighting against - people who think murder and deportation is honorable. A literal death cult who want to take Europe back to 1942 (or even 1939 when things were all cozy with their German Nazi allies)

Torq
27 Jun 2025  #134

we torture, imprison, and put into camps our OWN people

The ancient Sarmatian idea of 'bij swój swego, żeby obcy się bał' (one of my father's favourite sayings) is, of course, of Polish origin but it is indeed our Russian brothers who creatively developed it and took it to the extreme. This nobody can deny.

It is in all those countries interest for Russia not to suffer too much at the hand of the west. Cause they would be next

Spot on, Grunni.

If Russia perishes, who will be there to save us if some Hitler or other sultan goes on a rampage in the Slavic lands again? That's why we have to make sure that Russia doesn't perish but is transformed from the abomination that it has become under Putin into a strong, huge Slavic Switzerland (or at least South Korea) with nukes. Pawian's
idée fixe of fragmenting Russia into tens of what he called "Russistans" had this one flaw. Fatal flaw.

That´s why Western leftards/globalists do not like Eastern Europeans (mainly Russians).

Sometimes, on a rather rare occasion, you manage to say or at least quote something that actually makes sense. Well done.

The capitalist appetite is infinite; the planet's resources are not (...) This coming from an ex-Soviet KGB agent

I really wouldn't paint Putin as a planetary saviour, paragon of ecology and the ultimate embodiment of material restraint. :)

If you're into ecology, electric cars, emission limits, renewable energy resources and a general anti-capitalist sentiment, you should direct all your warm feelings towards the EU. Looking forward to your posts praising the Europeans for all the values that are so dear to you. :)

Torq
27 Jun 2025  #135

So what is the philosophical position

*sighs*

O thou, bearer of a tragically un-Slavic soul!

You ask and your question shall be answered. Not now though. There is a busy day ahead of me.

All the drunk nonsense here

I didn't touch a drop of alcohol yesterday, and what we write here is far from nonsensical. But deep inside you know it, cms. You're just struggling hopelessly with your inner Slav (a battle that you must eventually lose). How much longer will you spit in the faces of Christ and Svetovid? How much longer?

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jun 2025  #136

Six Bundeswehr vehicles burned out in Erfurt. A Russian-language video with images of the incident has now surfaced. The author draws a connection to the war in Ukraine.

focus.de/politik/deutschland/brandanschlag-auf-bundeswehr-fahrzeuge-russen-blogger-prahlen-und-jubeln_4da9fe3d-d4e2-4de3-bd64-313c14a0b9ea.html

Following the arson attack on six Bundeswehr trucks in Erfurt, a video was published on a Russian-language Telegram channel. The video shows photos of the vehicles, both undamaged and then burning, as first reported by MDR and the news portal t-online. The fire can be seen in its early stages without any emergency personnel on site.

The video, in Russian, states: "In Erfurt, Germany, various military equipment is being brought for repair for the Ukrainian armed forces. Our people decided that all this was unnecessary and that the Ukrainian armed forces didn't need such equipment. So they simply burned it.".....

😤

Mr Grunwald
27 Jun 2025  #137

@Bratwurst Boy
What is going on? Self sabotage or Russian undercover operations?

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jun 2025  #138

....or worse....some russian "refugees" who still stand on Putins pay-list???

We left so many people in, who we have no idea about....its only a matter of time....:(

Tacitus
27 Jun 2025  #139

Or maybe they may have just bribed some Germans to do that?

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jun 2025  #140

....or Putin-friendly Leftist-radicals did that, no bribing necessary!

Torq
27 Jun 2025  #141

bribed some Germans

Erm... bribed? Germans? Is this even a viable collocation in any language?

'Bribe Germans' sounds a bit like 'scare Poles' or 'befriend French'. Impossible.

Lyzko
27 Jun 2025  #142

So what's your point exactly, Torq? From a usage point of view, I see absolutely nothing
wrong. To be honest, I think you're just splitting hairs.

Novichok
27 Jun 2025  #143

you should direct all your warm feelings towards the EU

Instaed of telling me to burn less, let's start with sending 3-rd worlders back home where their carbon print is near zero.

They come to us "to better themselves" and burn as much as we do. Then the global warmers tell me that unless we reduce things the end is right around the corner.

BTW, being KGB and having brains is not mutually exclusive. Just as with Mossad, these two go together very well...

Bobko
27 Jun 2025  #144

Mineral deal may be in trouble...

Russia captures largest lithium deposit in Eastern Europe, west of Pokrovsk.

A quote that's a few months old from the Ukrainian minister that inked the deal with the US:

"Ms. Svyrydenko said that site, known as the Dobra lithium field, could become the first project started under the deal. Several investors have already shown interest, including Critical Metals Corp, which, despite the loss of the Shevchenko deposit, remains eager to take part in the U.S.-Ukraine minerals partnership, Mr. Zhernov, the company's director, said."

Well, that's just too bad. These American investors can still work there - they'll just have to pay taxes to Russia. They are free to give half their profits to Ukraine if they so wish.


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Alien
27 Jun 2025  #145

Russia captures largest lithium deposit in Eastern Europe, west of Pokrovsk

Ukraine will get it back.

Bobko
27 Jun 2025  #146

Ukraine will get it back.

Great!

When are you leaving for the front?

Did you put all your affairs in order?

The wife and children surely support your commitment to Ukraine's mineral resources.

Torq
27 Jun 2025  #147

So what's your point exactly, Torq? From a usage point of view, I see absolutely nothing
wrong.

I admire your commitment to taking things literally, Lyzko. The world needs autistic literalists too. *high five*

let's start with sending 3-rd worlders back home

Good idea.

Did you hear that, German police? 'Home', not 'to Poland'.

Russia captures largest lithium deposit in Eastern Europe

Hmm... but these are no longer Ukrainian but American deposits, so it is Americans who now have to worry about getting them back. 5D chess by the Ukrainians :)

Novichok
27 Jun 2025  #148

Russia captures largest lithium deposit in Eastern Europe, west of Pokrovsk.

Another Christmas gift...I can't take it anymore...

Or is it just a dream...I heard that Ukraine is winning and Russia's days are fewer than in Dec 1945.

Novichok
27 Jun 2025  #149

German police? 'Home',

If they know where "home" is...These bastards often destroy their docs on the way in to make it impossible to send them on the way out.

these are no longer Ukrainian but American deposits,

After having their money stolen by the Western democracies, Putin will not spend much time wondering what to do about that.

Instead, he is doodling this...


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Torq
27 Jun 2025  #150

Russia's days are fewer than in Dec 1945

Say what?

In December 1945 the USSR was consolidating control over Eastern/Central European territories, laying the groundwork for the so-called "Eastern Bloc". They were also occupying northern Korea, establishing communist administration there (nurturing the rise of Kim Il-sung). What else? The Azerbaijan People's Government (a Soviet-backed puppet state) declared autonomy in northern Iran, and the first meetings of the UN General Assembly and Security Council were being prepared (officially began in January 1946), where the USSR was one of the five permanent members of the Security Council and already maneuvering diplomatically for influence.

I don't get it... "fewer than in December '45"?

Putin will not spend much time wondering what to do about that

Hey, but he took your, American, mineral deposits. Surely you won't tolerate such shameless theft of American assets?


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