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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 28



jon357
12 Jan 2026  #181

Putin launched a hypersonic missle into Ukraine

In retaliation for Ukraine destroying key orc bases with billions in vital r*SSian arms.

Joker
13 Jan 2026  #182

Same old pattern. Sit tight, hope America fixes it, except for the PF Generals who provide loud commentary from the couch.

cms neuf
13 Jan 2026  #183

Same old pattern. Sit tight, hope America fixes it,

Who in Europe is "sitting tight" ? Most European countries continue to give military and financial support to the Ukrainians fighting the illegal invasion

We accept that the US no longer wants to be involved and we accept that Golden Cow has tried to organize a ceasefire but that Putler is not interested in signing it.

Torq
13 Jan 2026  #184

In December, Polish Army received the first batch of Borsuk IFVs. Personally, I think Bober would be a better name but anyway...

Borsuk 1

The strengths of Borsuk are widely praised by military personnel who have already had the opportunity to test the vehicle, as well as by those who have completed training in its operation. Unofficially, the following can be heard:

"The targeting system is excellent and allows us to deliver accurate fire at distances of nearly 4,000 meters. Thanks to the ability to use Spike guided missiles, no tank has the right to survive a confrontation with Borsuk. The chassis, in turn, was designed based on often painful experiences from combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. It enables the survival of the crew and soldiers in the event of driving over mines."

Borsuk is the only vehicle of its class in Western countries that can overcome water obstacles (rivers, canals, or lakes) under its own power. Another important aspect is the fact that the vehicle weighs less than 30 tons, which means that in a crisis situation it can be rapidly transported aboard military transport aircraft.

Borsuk 2

I wonder if Borsuk will be battle tested in Ukraine, like Krab, Piorun, Warmate etc. It would definitely make sense - it's a new construction and there's nothing like battle test to see if there aren't any hidden faults or things to improve.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/BWP_Borsuk

Alien
13 Jan 2026  #185

December, Polish Army

The most important currently would be modern drones, counter-drone systems, and combat robots. What does this look like in the Polish Army?

Torq
13 Jan 2026  #186

What does this look like in the Polish Army?

Both drones and anti-drone systems are manufactured in Poland in ever growing numbers, and this year in Podkarpacie a huge factory will be built dedicated only to production of such systems.

If Russia wants to invade, they should invade right away because in a couple of years we'll be impossible to conquer.

Bobko
13 Jan 2026  #187

Ukraine has been run like a racket by a corrupt mafia-like oligarchy.

Probably the only country left in Europe with an oligarchate still intact.

Of course they blame Russia for this. The same Russia which crushed its oligarchs in the early 2000s (accompanied by wailing from the West).

Never did the West care for any Russian as much as it cared for Mikhail Khodorkovsky - a man that ordered multiple murders, including the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk who had the temerity to call out Yukos' criminal methods of business.

Now they invite Khodorkovsky to conferences at Freedom House and the Council on Foreign Relations to opine on the state of freedom in Russia. Unbelievable.

have shown no interest in any long-term strategy for Ukraine

The greatest propaganda coup Ukraine ever pulled off, was convincing retarded Westerners that it was somehow a less corrupt and more efficient version of Russia.

The facts - obviously - state otherwise.

1) We reformed our tax code in the early 2000s, hugely improving compliance. We digitized the whole system, and made VAT collection predictable and automated.

The apes in Ukraine maintained a Byzantine, loophole-ridden tax system well into the 2010s. Tax enforcement was always selective and predatory, and primarily applied against the enemies of whoever is in power.

2) We removed most capital controls and achieved a free floating ruble.

Ukraine had chronic capital controls, emergency measures, and constant ad-hoc restrictions. The poor Hrivnha lurched from one crisis to another throughout all 35 years of independence.

3) We closed hundreds of weak banks (now most of those owners sit in London and run blogs about what a monster Putin is), and consolidated banking supervision and regulation.

Ukraine's banking sector is still dominated by oligarch-owned "pocket" banks. Massive insider lending, which continues to this day.

4) Russia adopted a Land Code in 2001, allowing for the private ownership of agricultural land.

Ukraine had agricultural land sales banned until 2021. Insane.

I could go on, and on, and on about corporate governance, anti-corruption agencies, energy pricing and subsidies, and so on and so forth....

The main proof of them being stupid peasants is that
Russian GDP is $2.2T (despite living under the worst sanctions regime), and Ukraine's is $200B (despite getting constant infusions from the whole Western world).

In 1992 Ukraine had a GDP of $22B, in contrast to Russia's $72B. They went from 3 times smaller than Russia, to 10 times smaller.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #188

......and invaded and destroyed by Russia will make it all better?

jon357
13 Jan 2026  #189

Sit tight, hope America fixes it,

Are you on drugs?

There is a major war going on right now.

About the yanks, the previous administration was fairly good, however this one has so far been too sympathetic to their owners, r*SSia.

Probably the only country left in Europe with an oligarchate still intact.

Says somebody from the land of oligarchs.

cms neuf
13 Jan 2026  #190

The main proof of them being stupid peasants is that.

That's cool - should be able to withstand another 4 years of sanctions then

Ironside
13 Jan 2026  #191

So what?

Giving up nuclear weapons, balancing ambiguous friendships, and engaging in shady deals were to be expected. Korvinus discussed strategic plans, national interests, and so on. They couldn't care less about these issues until recently because their own safety was at stake. With Russia's involvement, the end of most of those oligarchs was imminent, and they knew it.
As a lesson to Poland and not only, do not give them an inch, and definitely do not give them anything for free.

jon357
13 Jan 2026  #192

balancing ambiguous friendships, and engaging in shady deals were to be expected

Normal for any country, not that Ukraine had either.

do not give them an inch

Never ever give an inch to r*SSia.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #193

Just in:

Putin paid the mullahs 3.8 billion for terror missiles.

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/fuer-waffen-gegen-ukraine-putin-ueberweist-mullahs-3-8-milliarden-euro-6966134bd57b0276d945b8be

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Shocking new figures reveal the volume of Iranian arms exports to Russia, which not only ensure the financial survival of the mullah regime but are also almost exclusively fired at Ukraine.

According to Western intelligence agencies, the mullahs in Iran have supplied Russia with billions of dollars' worth of missiles, drones, and ammunition since the end of 2021 - thereby supporting Vladimir Putin's criminal war against Ukraine. Iran sold missiles worth approximately €2.3 billion to Russia alone. Other weapons are also being supplied....

Taking out the Mullahs will help Ukraine so much! Russia without venezolan oil and then also (hopefully) soon without iranian weapons...

This is reported by the news magazine Bloomberg, citing multiple intelligence sources:

Specifically, Putin's regime is said to have purchased several hundred Fath-360 short-range ballistic missiles, 500 missiles of other types, and 200 anti-aircraft missiles from Iran since October 2021 - just a few months before the start of Russia's major offensive against Ukraine. The total value: nearly €3 billion.

In addition, Iran is said to have supplied Russia with several million rounds of ammunition and artillery shells. Intelligence agencies emphasize that this does not represent Moscow's total procurement volume from Iran - further, as yet undisclosed, deliveries have also been completed.

Another component of the terrorist trade between Tehran and Moscow is the Shahed-136 attack drone: Tehran not only sold these but also shared production technologies. The corresponding contract is said to have been worth around €1.5 billion.

According to intelligence estimates, Russia has spent the equivalent of more than 3.8 billion euros on Iranian military equipment since the end of 2021.


Torq
13 Jan 2026  #194

Taking out the Mullahs will help Ukraine so much! Russia without venezolan oil and then also (hopefully) soon without iranian weapons...

... and Putin is also getting a lot of artillery shells and other stuff from North Korea. Just sayin'.

😗 ♫♪♫

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #195

😗 ♫♪♫

Ooooh yeasss...this year has only just begun! 😎

Ironside
13 Jan 2026  #196

Putin is also getting a lot of artillery shells and other stuff from North Korea

Israel doesn't care about North Korea,

China will be annoyed as Iran is their second supplier of oil.

Bobko
13 Jan 2026  #197

Russia without venezolan oil

We don't need it. We have more oil than God.

Taking out the Mullahs will help Ukraine so much

We've improved and serialized everything they sent and showed us.

jon357
13 Jan 2026  #198

it. We have more oil than God.

Just a shame it's the wrong type and you have had to use a shadow fleet to import the right type. Not for much longer though.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #199

We don't need it. We have more oil than God.
We've improved and serialized everything they sent and showed us.

......probably all true.....STIIIIIILLLLLL!

Putin is losing friends and supporters at an amazing pace....he must have done something to **** the Trump off, I tell you!

Torq
13 Jan 2026  #200

Putin (...) must have done something to **** the Trump off, I tell you!

He failed to deliver a rapid victory in Ukraine - something that Trump wouldn't mind at all. In his worldview losers are discarded. Classic Trump.

Besides, Trump expected Putin to de-escalate and avoid actions that unify NATO and U.S. elites against Russia - Putin did the opposite and in the process made a mockery of Trump's attempts to end the war in Ukraine, and treated him pretty much like a retard. Nobody likes being treated like a retard. So, Putin miscalculated and the war will drag on with extra fireworks (see Venezuela and Iran, for a start). I'm just not quite sure if that's the best scenario we could have had.

As I said before - a classic example of monkey trap. Russia really should end this war - for the benefit of everyone - get what they can from it, count their losses and start seriously rebuilding, but they're just not willing to let the fruit go. So annoying when you see a superpower acting so irrationally. :-/

Ron2
13 Jan 2026  #201

The US is not in a hurry at all to end the war in Ukraine right now.

They have started their own fight in Venezuela, next is Greenland and most likely Cuba and Iran. The more distractions, the better chances for the US to achieve their own goals. Russia likes it too as they can occupy more and more land and strengthen their negotiating position without a serious intervention.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #202

and in the process made a mockery of Trump's attempts to end the war in Ukraine, and treated him pretty much like a retard.

.....and if there is something Trump can't stand its disrespect!

I wish some other european leaders beside Putin would get that little fact of international politics into their heads....

Torq
13 Jan 2026  #203

The US is not in a hurry at all to end the war in Ukraine right now.

Did Trump abandon his Nobel Peace Prize ambitions? Without ending the Ukraine war he's definitely not getting it.

I wish some other european leaders beside Putin would get that little fact of international politics into their heads....

*coughDonaldTuskcough*

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jan 2026  #204

Did Trump abandon his Nobel Peace Prize ambitions?

Mrs. Machado wants to gift him hers...but that is just not the same, I think.....:)

Torq
13 Jan 2026  #205

that is just not the same, I think

Definitely not the same. :)

Crnogorac3
13 Jan 2026  #206

agenda is not enough, the Trump regime is provoking China with the sale of hundreds of missiles to Taiwan that can be used to attack Chinese cities. Clearly, Donald Trump has emerged as anything but a "peace president."

paulcraigroberts.org/2026/01/07/what-became-of-americas-peace-president/

Miloslaw
13 Jan 2026  #207

I am so proud of Poland!!!!



Crnogorac3
13 Jan 2026  #208

What became of America's "peace president"?

Paul Craig Roberts

Stephen Miller, President Trump's Jewish deputy chief of staff and architect of Trump's agenda, is the administration's voice on American foreign policy. The Jewish voice that speaks for America has announced that it is the "formal position" of the United States government that Greenland belongs to the United States and that no country can prevent Washington from annexing the Danish territory. Miller's Jewish wife posted online a map of Greenland draped in the American flag. Trump agreed saying Washington "absolutely needs" Greenland. Asked to confirm Washington's intentions, Miller said that it has been the formal position since the beginning of the trump administration that "obviously Greenland should be part of the United States," not withstanding the fact that Greenland has long been part of Denmark. Miller questioned Denmark's claim to Greenland and said that "nobody is going to fight the US military over the future of Greenland." In other words just as Israel can seize Palestine, Washington can seize Greenland, Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba, Iran and any other country that it wishes."

paulcraigroberts.org/2026/01/07/what-became-of-americas-peace-president/

jon357
13 Jan 2026  #209

paulcraigroberts

A senile nutter and notorious holocaust denier.

A Putler worshipper too.

Lazarus
13 Jan 2026  #210

Stephen Miller, President Trump's Jewish deputy chief of staff

Is he? Really? Perhaps Hitler was only 99.9999999999999% wrong after all.


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