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USA News and Poland - part 19



Torq
28 Feb 2026  #1

@Bobko

I have a feeling we are talking about different things.

Signs in heaven and earth indicate that dark times - when Satan will be unleashed - are coming. America - the most powerful country on Earth - sinks into Zionist heresy and will most likely worship the Jewish "Messiah" (Antichrist) when he appears. Well, at least their "elites" will. That in itself is bad enough. But more will happen.

Do not confuse Gospel with class struggle, pacifist movement or liberation theology. The effects of Socialism, currency collapses, blockades and sanctions on the salvation of individual souls are murky. Economic hardship may well help a soul on the way to Heaven while material wealth may cause it to fall into Hell. It might also be the other way around. We don't know.

What we do know, though, is that the new world order will be inherently hostile to Christians. It will hate true believers with truly satanic hatred. Hence we need to be ready to give our lives away rather than serve the system. This is the meaning of bearing witness. Not hiding on an island or in the mountains.

Bobko
28 Feb 2026  #2

talking about is specifically witnessing to the truth of Christ and the gospels

How does this help in this current problem?

More than 99.9999% of people my age and from my region - I am ready to become Christ's soldier and arm myself with the armor of God. Not just to witness his suffering, and betrayal - but to avenge him and purify his assailants.

The people HE STOOD UP FOR - are now being abused.

Who he told us to love - WE ARE BEING TAUGHT TO HATE.

Where are you Christians?

Bobko
28 Feb 2026  #3

The "West" is at its greatest and most awe inspiring power when it adopts these seemingly self defeating positions.

As a citizen of the "Other", I can confirm this.

You're selling out your credibility for two criminals.

One wants people to stop focusing on the tariff imbroglio and the Epstein files, and the other is seeking to indefinitely forestall a criminal investigation against him from Israeli prosecutors.

If "Western" people came out strongly and condemned this attack, without supporting the regime of Iran, I think people in places like Indonesia, South Africa, Brazil, India, China, etc would definitely notice.

Tlum
28 Feb 2026  #4

MTG has summed up the Trump / MAGA scam nicely. There's not much left to say.


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AntV
28 Feb 2026  #5

How does this help in this current problem?

Because, ultimately, the problem is a result of not heeding the gospel.

It helps by stating moral imperatives, giving a voice to those who suffer from war, etc.

It appeals to mankind to demand that our leaders do what is right in accord with human dignity and the moral imperatives.

Where are you Christians?

Some of us are here. The Pope and others within the RCC for example.

Some, are up Israel, Trump, etc a$$.

The armor of God. What is that to you? To me, it is the grace that comes from the enduring Truth of the gospels, standing up, professing, and living it. There a lot of Christians who are armed with that. Jesus didn't come to overthrow the Roman authorities like many thought the Messiah would do, but to overthrow the monopoly of sin-to bridge the gap between God and man.

The main battle is spiritual. However, that spiritual battle informs our actions, which sometimes manifests into physical battles: sometimes you have to go to war to confront evil, other times is two evils confronting each other. But, the root of those physical battles is spiritual.

If "Western" people came out strongly and condemned this attack, without supporting the regime of Iran,

I agree with this.

The west is in crisis, though. It has been at war with itself for decades. It has tried to untether itself from its heritage. We're like a vessel lost at sea.

One of the things I admire about Putin is he celebrates Russian heritage, unlike many leaders and people of influence in the west who loathe our heritage

Tlum
28 Feb 2026  #6

Americans are wakening up. This is from a far-right website (formerly 80-90% of Trump supporters). Trump has managed to re-convert most of them.


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Crnogorac3
28 Feb 2026  #7

U.S. & Israel Strike Iran - What Happens Next? | Office Hours



Whoever is interested...

AntV
1 Mar 2026  #8

@Tlum

I've read some of your posts regarding America. I don't think you understand who the typical Trump voter is. There are 75-plus million of us who voted for him. Sure some are die-hard cult of personality types, but most are folks like me who grew tired of the same ole same ole. We were tired of globalist economics, wars that weren't protecting our interests, wide open borders, and elitism.

Trump offered an anecdote. And, to his credit, he delivered quite a lot during his first term. This term he hasn't, so he has lost some of us. Because, we are not braindead automatons, like you seem to think.

Tlum
1 Mar 2026  #9

he delivered quite a lot during his first term

Yes, he brought us Convid and clotShots.

You wised up. But a few on this forum are still brain dead.

AntV
1 Mar 2026  #10

Yes, he brought us Convid and clotShots

Yeah, he misplayed covid, but beforenthat he did quite a lot of decent stuff

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #11

I hope it is now evident to everyone that Israel has tons of kompromat on Trump and American paedo cabal "elites".

Is the obviousness of complete and utter evil of it all enough for Europe, Russia and China to form a coalition against the satanic forces of USrael? Fingers crossed but I'm not holding my breath.

AntV
1 Mar 2026  #12

Oh, they got the goods on Euro pedo elites too, and of Israel speaks Russian.

If Europe had the power of America, it would be European forces bombing Iran.

I think I just validated your Dark Ages theory. 😳

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #13

they got the goods on Euro pedo elites

British are not really European if that's whom you meant.

If Europe had the power of America, it would be European forces bombing Iran.

Quite likely. Quite likely indeed. Europe is, after all, a US ally.

From purely eschatological point of view things are rather worrying for me - Poland and Europe as a whole is on the side of satanic USrael, and it means that you and I, and millions of Catholics in our countries, will indeed have to bear witness (in its full sense).

your Dark Ages theory

It is hardly my theory, is it? It's all in the Good Book.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #14

....maybe Epstein was an iranian resistance fighter? Forcing the US and Israel to help them???

These plots are Hollywood-worthy! :)

AntV
1 Mar 2026  #15

@Torq

It's not just Prince Andrew and it's not just Epstein. It's much more than that. You ought to hear some of the stuff former Mossad agents say about tIsraeli tactics. American and Euro intel guys say the sme stuff about Israeli ops. They get you in compromising situations, then own you. They operate all iver the world likenthis.

Apparently, in the Epstein Files there's damning material that includes Ams, Euros, Brits, and Arabs.

Alien
1 Mar 2026  #16

evil of it all enough for Europe, Russia and China to form a coalition against the..

This will never happen.

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #17

in the Epstein Files there's damning material that includes Ams, Euros, Brits, and Arabs

No Russians or Chinese?

Kurwa.. are we the baddies?

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #18

....that would make the Mullahs and Hamas the "Goodies"!

Really Torq?

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #19

the Mullahs and Hamas the "Goodies"!

You're confusing me, BB - are the Mullahs or the Hamas Russian or Chinese? *scratches head*

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #20

...they definitely are not enemies!

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #21

Hm... paedo cabal, islamic fanatics, commies or neoimperial aggressors. Whom to support?

I think I will choose another option: pray for Jesus Christ to return and throw the all into hell where they belong. Every-single-one-of-them.

Give witness.

Crnogorac3
1 Mar 2026  #22

When you only see the Western and Russian approach to war.
The Russians in Ukraine did not even touch Zelensky and his gang of bandits, they conduct the war in a civilized manner, according to conventions.
The Judeo-West immediately kills everything. Along the way, they destroyed a school and killed 85 girls and nothing happened to anyone. Only the Islamists and their mercenaries are protesting.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #23

When you only see the Western and Russian approach to war.

Thing is, there were no happy dancing Ukrainians welcoming the russian attack....

And instead of planning their own nuke-building program, they gave up the only nukes they had, all for peace....

Nor do the USians want the Iranians to become USians....don't plan to incorporate Iran into the US, taking away the self-determination from the Iranians...

So many differences!

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #24

"USA, USA" chants - over 5000 participants at demonstration for the overthrow of Iran in Hamburg

welt.de/vermischtes/article69a3a1df7c787f6a1cef28d7/weltweite-iran-proteste-usa-usa-rufe-ueber-5000-teilnehmer-bei-demo-in-hamburg.html

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Following the attacks by Israel and the US on Iran, numerous people demonstrated in many major Western cities for a change of power in Tehran - including in Hamburg, Munich, and Berlin.

The largest demonstration in Germany took place in Hamburg. On Saturday, around 5,500 people marched through the city carrying flags of Iran, the US, Israel, and Germany. The demonstration had been registered well in advance and was held under the motto "No to the Islamic Republic of Iran!"...

Something similiar was also missing as Putin attacked Ukraine....no Ukrainians demonstrating on our streets their support for Putin, nobody chanted "Russia, Russia".....only desperate refugees....

...There were drums and chants of "USA, USA." Some demonstrators had tears in their eyes. Speakers emphasized the importance of a possible change of power in Tehran. According to the North German Broadcasting Corporation (NDR), Reza Zare, one of the organizers of the demonstration, said: "We have been waiting for this moment for 47 years." This war, he said, was for the Iranian people....

So many differences, Crno!

Torq
1 Mar 2026  #25

Americans are wakening up (...) Trump has managed to re-convert most of them.

Trump went too obviously nazi, even for American far-right (hopefully!).

"The leader is not bound by laws. As Hermann Goering put it: "Hitler is the law." Any attempt to question the leader or the new order is ruthlessly crushed, for there is only one truth, which is whatever the leader and his propagandists say it is. In the ideal fascist state, there is in fact no distinction between the leader and the people, for his is the voice of the people. In Hitler's words, spoken in 1940: "What am I? I am nothing but the spokesman of the German Volk."

I hope and pray that American society is stil far away from accepting the above model, as much as Trump and his paedo cabal would like them to.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #26

....now Trump is like Hitler?

What happened to Torqi????

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #27

.....yeah....imagine....


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Torq
1 Mar 2026  #28

now Trump is like Hitler?

Not quite like Hitler, but uncannily similar in certain aspects of his approach to politics.

And it's not just my impression...


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Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2026  #29

...when he stages a coup to stay in power when his time is over, you and all critics might have a point.

When he leaves office once his time has run out as its usual, then an apology is due! :)

Barney
1 Mar 2026  #30

stages a coup to stay in powe

He tried that, it failed and he still hasn't conceded that he was rejected by Americans...


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