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USA News and Poland - part 19



Bobko
1 Mar 2026  #91

Their old Persian civilization wasn't annihilated by Islam, hence they are diffrent that others.

They are quite different.

Many Wahhabi and Salafi scholars argue that Shiism, is naught but a toxic manifestation of Persian nationalism.

Aslo the US aggression on behalf of Isreal doesn't constitute a bellum iustum.

I hope they all fail.

Barney
1 Mar 2026  #92

I see Britain has now decided to Join Israel and America in their illegal war on Iran. No surprise there the British Labour Party in the shape of Tony Blair launched an illegal war on Iraq and helped Israel in its genocide. Starmer, the British PM and human rights lawyer said that it was fine for Israel to withhold food and water from civilians held in an open air prison. Starmer and most of his cabinet have been funded by Israel proxies.

Remember Starmer claims to be a human rights lawyer.

Crnogorac3
1 Mar 2026  #93

jewish wife

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Starmer

The Israelis literally have him by the balls.

So it was never a question of if but when Britain would join in the criminal aggression against a sovereign state of Iran which is against International law and in violation of UN regulations.

Paulina
1 Mar 2026  #94

Not long ago this evening I've watched on CNN a short speech by Trump and I've witnessed one of the symptoms mentioned by one physical therapist who's treating patients with dementia. The slurping - you could see it and hear it. Trump is sucking in saliva when he's talking. It's one of the symptoms of frontotemporal dementia (FTD). People with FTD have problems with swallowing and saliva gathers in their mouth. In order not to drool they're sucking it into their mouth - and that's what you could hear during his speech often.

Ironside
1 Mar 2026  #95

Trump is sucking in saliva when he's talking

Stop it you are gross.

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #96

"Russia alleges there was a Ukrainian attack", "Separatist forces report a strike on a hospital -..

That is a normal language used by media when they can't verify the claims, because they don't have reporters on the ground who could check the info. I've heard the same language being used when Western media were reporting about claims made by Ukrainians.

Wrong, they are not all good people.

Go back to my #59 comment and read it again. I didn't write that they're "all good people". I wrote that they're not murdering their own people for protesting and that already makes them better than the Iranian regime.

Wrong question.

No, it's a simple hypothetical question you won't answer because you're a hypocrite.

Stop it you are gross.

Nope, Trump is gross and he's the one who should be stopped.

Joker
2 Mar 2026  #97

@Paulina
Isnt it getting past your bedtime yet? Its 1am in Poland and youve been ranting here all day long. Get a life. Your Eurotard group thepary session is over for today!

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #98

@Joker, it is and I was going to walnąć w kimono, but now you came and you told me what to do and in this way you awoken my Polish stubbornness... And now I feel like doing the exact opposite of what you told me to do... You silly MAGAt! Do you never learn???

sigh

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #99

Now isn't that interesting!!

Push from Saudis, Israel helped move Trump to attack Iran

U.S. intelligence assessments saw no imminent threat, but regional allies argued now was the time to strike.

washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/02/28/trump-iran-decision-saudi-arabia-israel/

That would explain alot!

...Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman made multiple private phone calls to Trump over the past month advocating a U.S. attack, despite his public support for a diplomatic solution, the four people said. ...

"Push from Saudis"....who would have thought.....they will have to put in now too!

amiga500
2 Mar 2026  #100

facebook.com/watch/?v=1464534468564524

cms neuf
2 Mar 2026  #101

Russia alleges there was a Ukrainian attack", "Separatist forces report a strike on a hospital -..

Well North Nigeria did claim they had conquered Pokrovsk in October, when in fact they are 6km outside in March.

But back to this war - Iran should let in some respected journalists from a small country. But I feel sure the school story is true - don't know if US or Israel did it

Crnogorac3
2 Mar 2026  #102

Perhaps, although someone is really looking forward and celebrating... Moscow Stock Exchange today. Oil and gas companies.

M

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #103

In case anyone's curious about Polish attitudes towards the attack on Iran:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/polska-wobec-wojny-usa-z-iranem-wyrazny-sygnal-z-sondazu-7259690222008704a

According to United Surveys' poll:

50.3% of Poles (across all political views) think that Poland should remain completely neutral.

27.3% think Poland should support the US, but only diplomatically.

12,7% have no opinion.

9,5% think that Poland should condemn military action.

0,2% think that Poland should fully support the US, including by sending Polish soldiers.

That would explain alot!

What exactly?

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #104

What exactly?

Why? Why now???

The last the world heard before the attack had been reports about quite well going peace talks....if I remember it right!

Now to read that these talks, even as openly endorsed by the Saudis, were never the real goal by them, explains the attack....it now isn't only the US + Israel....it was planned all the time as US + Israel + Saudi Arabia (plus their allies and their enormous resources in the ME).

Who in the ME, even as anti-american and anti-semitic, will now openly stand and support the Mullahs against the Saudis....even Putin has been very tame in condemning this war, and he will not lift a finger to help his allies!

= thats alot! And the unique chance to end the Mullahs....a thorn in the flesh for so many people for so many years....hence NOW!

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #105

@Bratwurst Boy, I doubt it has that much to do with what Saudis wanted. They were lobbying for the attack for months apparently so it doesn't explain the "Why now?"

I think in finding explanation it's good to look at Trump's projections:


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Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #106

They were lobbying for the attack for months apparently so it doesn't explain the "Why now?"

....and now the military buildup in the region makes sense too. You can't start a war following one phone call, not even from the Saudis, you need to put your chess figures into place beforehand.

Not to mention that it needed a time even for the combined forces of the MOSSAD and the CIA to figure out where all these heads are hiding to successfully end them so soon, as it happened!

But without the Saudis "pushing" maybe there still wouldn't be this war....maybe only another short operation by Israel only. But this now is an all out war to end them, and the Mullahs know this!

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #107

......and it gets even bigger:

France Ready to Defend the Gulf States

France has declared its readiness to defend the Gulf states and Jordan, which are under attack by Iran. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot assured "the friendly countries that are being deliberately targeted by the missiles and drones of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard" of his country's support. France is "ready to participate in their defense," Barrot said on Monday in Paris. He referred to existing agreements with partners and the principle of collective self-defense. Barrot specifically mentioned Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Iraq, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, and Jordan.....

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/live-ticker-zum-iran-israel-beginnt-angriff-auf-mullahs-696036f24d1d5f581eeb0751#69a55dae2ecb6a0d6559d6b5

....but without Germany....as Merz already declared that we will sit this one out!

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #108

@Bratwurst Boy, I'm pretty sure the US was prepared for the attack on Iran for years, even if it was "just in case" scenario.

as openly endorsed by the Saudis, were never the real goal by them

Not only by them, but also by the US. So they're like the Kremlin - liars and deceivers.

As for "Why?" and "Why now?" I think it was because of the protests in Iran - they probably assume that Iran is ready for the regime change. Also, the bloody way in which Iran dealt with the protests give them a level of moral legitimacy in helping to topple the regime in the eyes of the public.
And, of course, Israel has clearly a big influence on Trump's administration.

As for "why now" - I think it's a distraction from Epstein files and it's also due to Trump's low ratings. He needs some "big success" for the midterms. It's also possible that Trump's administration is in a hurry due to his progressing dementia. They probably don't know how long Trump will remain "cognitive" enough to be able to function as president. 🤔

this now is an all out war

Careful now, Joker wrote it's just "strikes"! lol

as Merz already declared that we will sit this one out!

I think (and hope) Poland will "sit this one out" too.
I'm worried it may either turn into something long and ugly or the regime won't fall and all the deaths will be in vain... For countries like Poland it's probably better to stay away from this.

Barney
2 Mar 2026  #109

Now to read that these talks, even as openly endorsed by the Saudis, were never the..

Well there is a big surprise...America negotiating in bad faith.

As horrendous as the Iranian regime is the war is still illegal just like Putin's war of choice.

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #110

As for "Why?" and "Why now?" I think it was because of the protests in Iran..

I hope so too, that it was for the Iranian people.. but I guess it was the threat of nukes in the hands of religious fanatics. Nutters who already declared for years how they would love to destroy not only Israel, but the US and the whole "satanic West" too.

As horrendous as the Iranian regime is the war is still illegal just like Putin's war..

Serious question, Barn......if somewhere during the Thirties of the last century some bold move by the Allies would had ended Hitler and his regime through an attack, how would you judge that today, with the knowledge what that illegal war stopped?

Barney
2 Mar 2026  #111

@Bratwurst Boy
Its a hypothetical that cant be answered with conviction. Its for situations like your hypothetical that we codified international law otherwise might is right without even an excuse for war. We would have the great mystics predicting what will happen that just happen to match their ambitions

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #112

....but without Germany....

Why do they mention Germany in this article then?:

france24.com/en/live-news/20260301-france-germany-uk-ready-to-take-defensive-action-against-iran

Serious question, Barn......

You should ask Ironside the same question. He claims that Iranians who asked for American intervention are "traitors and renegates."

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #113

I hope so too, that it was for the iranian people...

No, I didn't mean that Trump somehow cares about Iranian people. He doesn't. I meant that the protests have shown a chance for there being enough of opposition to the regime - and hence the regime change would be possible.
So the US saw an opportunity to help end the regime.

but I guess it was the threat of nukes in the hands of religious fanatics.

That threat existed for years and according to American intelligence there was no immediate threat from Iran to the US:

edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/politics/iran-missiles-trump-intelligence-nuclear

"According to two sources, the claim that Iran will soon have a missile capable of hitting the US is not backed up by intelligence - there is no intelligence to suggest that Iran is pursuing an ICBM program to hit the US at this time, the sources said."

Mr Grunwald
2 Mar 2026  #114

....and now the military buildup in the region makes sense too.

In the past U.K and Tsarist Russia came to a formal or informal agreement between each other regarding Persia. Having limited involvement to not antagonize each other. A agreed "no mans" land of sorts.

This has slowly been changing due to Persian aspirations (and ignoring this situation). Now that Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, U.K not being as relevant as 200 years ago, regional powers pushing to have Iran lose the game in the ME. While U.S.A getting dragged into this for multiple reasons, one of them being their secret services been after the Iran leadership for years after their asset got removed from Iran.

Trump got in bed with military industrial complex and secret services cause he lost the favour of the public caused by the scandals. Then this is the price and events. Russia can't stop this, China won't and India won't *shrugs shoulders*

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #115

Why do they mention Germany in this article then?:

Na ja....I could guess the usual....allowing bases used, overflight rights, cheering from the sidelines, that kind of stuff...but frankly I have no idea....

That threat existed for years and according to American intelligence there was no immediate threat from..

I read the same....hence my opinion that without the "pushing" Saudis there would probably no war now.....WHY the Saudis kept pushing is everybodies guess!

Maybe they know something we do not....and they surely don't trust the Mullahs to keep to any agreement in the first place!

Its for situations like your hypothetical that we codified international law otherwise might is right without even an excuse for war.

Of course....if only everybody and their grandmom would give a ***!

But this world isn't like this....just imagine usable nukes in the hands of the Mullahs...just hypothetically of course!

Barney
2 Mar 2026  #116

.just imagine usable nukes in the hands of the Mullahs

That scare story has been around for a few decades. It was the lie used to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq and gave birth to ISIS.

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #117

That scare story has been around for a few decades.

I think it is no longer a "scare story" only.....the Saudis knew and lived with the Mullahs for decades....but NOW they demand their destruction....why NOW?

There is only one logical reason....the threat of iranian nukes has become real!

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #118

hence my opinion that without the "pushing" Saudis there would probably no war now.....

I honestly really doubt that lol I mean, their support probably means "something", it's a plus from American perspective, but I don't think it was the main reason for why the attack happened now.

WHY the Saudis kept pushing is everybodies guess!

It's not really any mystery - Iran is Saudi Arabia's rival in the region:

theconversation.com/why-did-iran-bomb-dubai-a-middle-east-expert-explains-the-regional-alliances-at-play-277218

"In spite of Iran's relative size and military power in the region, the Iranian government is not well liked by its neighbours. At best, Iran is seen as a rival, at worst an adversary.

Saudi Arabia and Iran have spent more than a decade in a proxy war over Yemen.

Iran also claimed historical ownership over Bahrain as recently as December last year.
"

why NOW?

Because there's an opportunity thanks to the protests and willingness on the US side.

There is only one logical reason....the threat of iranian nukes has become real!

What is the basis of this conviction of yours?

Bratwurst Boy
2 Mar 2026  #119

Iran is Saudi Arabia's rival in the region:

Yeah....they had been that for decades now.....the Saudis also never supported Israel in any way....there was never some kind of alliance, not to mention any outright war...

What changed?

What is the basis of this conviction of yours?

What else could that be?

What could the super mighty, super powerful, super richt oil-Saudis rile up so much that they NOW beg the US to open war, that they even ally with the other archenemy in the region, Israel?

How many possibilities are there, Paulina? Besides the new threat of nukes!

Paulina
2 Mar 2026  #120

What changed?

Trump has shown with the abduction of Venezuela's Maduro that he's ready to take "bold actions."

How many possibilities are there, Paulina?

Plenty lol

What else could that be?

I already explained it.

Demonstrations in Iran started on 28 December 2025 and have been the largest uprising since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. So far the Iranian regime has murdered THOUSANDS of protestors making those killings the largest massacre in modern Iranian history.

During those protests Iranians asked the US for intervention.

If not now then when?


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