European News and Poland Thread

The only European countries with a "clean" conscience throughout the Holocaust would be Bulgaria, Denmark, Tito's Yugoslavia, and possibly Albania.
The bulk of the rest, including little Portugal for looking the other way in Lisbon when escaped Nazis used "Persilscheine" to make their get
away to South America, have blood on their hands. Poland unfortunately, as with France, is sadly no exception, second-largest Nazi resistance
movement and all.

Ah, so a xenophobic attack on a Polish ambassador is expected and excused apparently.

I don't even know how you can possibly compare Poland to France.
I have relatives that lived in both of those countries during the war and the regimes and experiences are incomperable.
You speak with ignorance my friend.

I beg your pardon there, Milo!

Both nations had the largest single resistance movements, even though Poland was never occupied in the strict sense:-)
You're just being a contrarian.

@kaprys,

If you'd understood my words, you'd realize that the subtleties of English seem often to evade your eyes. I never stated that I condone violence of any sort, unless of course physically provoked which was obviously not the case here with the Polish Ambassador.

I simply stated that when tempers become frayed, people will do things which they later regret. What's so hard for you to understand here?

Now you are just being some kind of crazy comedian......
What is occupation "In the strict sense" in your confused logic?

Poland's war-time govt. was in exile...in London, as you well know, being British:-)

France was "occupied", Czecholslovakia the same.
Poland obviously was overrun, yet it never had a "puppet" regime in its place.
There was no Polish Horthy, Szilassy, Hacha or Dolfuss, Petin or Laval.

In the latter respect, the Poles were truly valiant. This however is not meant to excuse or condone
the anti-Semitism which was rife throughout Poland at that time.
You don't believe me? Read Dmowski's "Kwestia Zydowska".

Of course I am well aware of that, but what relevence does it have, as France's government was also in exile in London.
Or were you not aware of that?


And Poland was not occupied?
It had no "Puppet" regime like France had, it was run by Germans.
So you Jews need to address Germans, not Poles for compensation.
You just destroyed your own argument.

France did indeed have a gov't in exile, yes, of that I too was aware, thank you.
The question however becomes almost hopelessly complex when matters of unclaimed
property come to the forefront!

The Poles, unlike their German warlords, were by their own admission, sloppy record keepers.
Therefore, the issue is that as Jewish property destroyed during the years '42-'45 was not entered into Grund/Landbuecher by the locals as had been the case with confiscated Jewish property by the Germans, perhaps one will never honestly know for certain what belonged to whom.

Herein lies the real muddle.

You hit the nail on the head at last.
If that is the case, how can you claim compensation from Poles?
You can't justifiably do that.
Game over.

Factually correct, sir! Frustrating though I must admit.

It still is. Maybe not as much as in Greece but especially amount the youth Poles aren't too keen on been extorted by the holocaust industry. Now the Israeli shill Trump signed the just act which demands poles put some Jew who's never even been to poland claim that his grandmother's uncle's wife lost her house to the Nazis above a Polish citizens. Well Poles won't fall for it. This isn't the first time the Jews tried to extort the Polish people and it won't be the last. Difference is now Poland is much smarter thanks to better communication and access to information.

Because a few rogue stinkers out there from our tribe aka Norman Finkelstein, even worse, the gentile Swiss fellow nearly twenty years ago who had his story :"confirmed"(LOL) by Yad Vashem, even though he wasn't in a camp EVER, and wasn't even Jewish, although he lied about that as well, besmirch the Holocaust and shame themselves and survivors, that's not reason to accuse the Jews en masse of creating a Holocaust industry!

For the most unspeakable, above all, calculated, mass genocide in history, compensation is but an insult. "NEVER AGAIN!", doesn't just mean that, it also calls on all Jews to be kinder to one another and head their place in the human food chain, to be more circumspect.

True Lyzko.
But Jews have the same problem as Muslims.
A handful of extremists are ruining the reputation of all the people.
Us outsiders can't help you.
You need to sort this out within your own community, before it is too late.

When were "all Jews not kind to one another"? They were weak and meek pacifists and that is why so many died - a lesson not lost on the Israelis.

By that comparison, Israelis are not Jews - they are Jewish. Huge difference: Israelis shoot to kill, Jews fold, pray, and vote for their enemies like Obongo and Hillary.

No but they certainly benefit from it and don't want it to stop. The Holocaust industry has generated billions through guilt tripping - movies, books, extortion of banks, even entire countries... Not to mention all the aid Israel gets which they obtain by reminding the silly goys like Trump about muhh six million, never again.


Yes they are. And a huge chunk of Israeli citizens are e european especially from Russia.


Total b.s. there's been genocides with a far, far higher body count. But of course a jewish death is more important - even the Jews own scripture says so

Body count alone is scarcely analogous!

If a Pol Pot arbitrarily throws as many a million over time into ditches and shoots them for no rhyme or reason, that's quite another thing from methodically, over years, relentlessly torturing those because of their beliefs.

Both scenarios are ugly, yet the two beggar comparison.

No it's the same. Genocide, mass murder, ethnic cleansing is all the same. Only difference is the body counts. Even the reasons are all the same whether it's killing because of religious beliefs, political beliefs, ethnicity, whatever. Only thing that differs is who's killing who, how many die, and most importantly who wins at the end.

Stalin wiped out the kulaks and Cossacks because of their beliefs. Mao wiped out the nationalists under chain Kai shek over political differences. Muslims wiped out hundreds of millions because of their religious beliefs. It's all the same. Only difference was the scale and belligerents. And in the grand scheme of things the Jewish deaths caused by Nazis and supporters are a blip when compared to other similar events, even though Hitler killed far more Slavic people simply because of their nationality. Yet the holocaust industry, undoubtedly influenced by their Talmudic beliefs, places Jewish deaths above any other.

The systematic, sadistic throughness with which the Nazis carried out the Shoah might well have been unique in terms both of method as well as outcome.

The Sinti-Roma were also among those slated for total extermination. The sole difference was, that the latter were never a part of, nor did they ever cajole

themselves tragically into thinking that they ever were an integral part of European aka German society.

The latter was the Jews' most cutting flaw.

@Lyzko
You really don't understand sarcasm, do you?

There's no difference between an attack on a Jewish person just because he is Jewish and an attack on a Polish person just because he is Polish.

Don't look for excuses just because this time it was a Jewish person who was guilty of a xenophobic attack.
Those double standards of yours again - no worries, my English is good enough to understand that.

I disagree. Concentration and death camps existed well before the Nazis made them. So was the use of gas, bullet in the back of the head, slave labor, etc. The Nazis were hardly unique in using those methods. And outcome in terms of deaths doesn't even come close to other genocides, even with the overblown 6 million figure.


To most people yes, but not to jews. According to Jewish scripture namely the talmud a Jewish life is worth far more than a goy life. That's a fact.

Define Genocide please, Dirk!

Dirk, don't do it! If you do, you will be feeding a passive aggressive guy who seldom takes a stand and mostly feeds off of others.

You sensible snowflake you! :)

If I was mean I would say that German asking for definition of genocide is like a Brazilian asking 'what is football?' :-)

If I was mean.

Why? Germans didn't invent football nor genocide...any you like to be mean, admit it!

This is actually a good example since Germans didn't invent genocide nor football but perfected both of them.

Pleeeeaaaaase....we were embarrassed during the latest WC!

Perfected? They didn't kill even a fraction that the Chinese and Soviets did. Even the Nazis prison infrastructure pales in comparison to the gulags.

But since it involved dead Jews it gets far more attention

You've lost your edge. When was the last time you've even invaded someone? And I'm not talking about economical and ideological invasion of Europe but an old school raping and pillaging?


True. But I'm more concerned about Poles and more Polish citizens died because of national socializmus than bolshevism

Wow....is that Spikey admitting Germany has changed??? Wow!

*runs marking the day in the calendar*