European News and Poland Thread 2

Yeah....and everybody is so listening! ;)


How so? So really with a King? :)


At least they are trying....mistakes are inevitable!

Poland could achieve much if it would be really committed and involved, making it's opinion heard, net working, gathering like minded allies to sway decisions their ways....it could really become a big player and make the EU better!

But only wanting to be a cog in the wheel...observing what Germany does....in it for the money....will achieve nothing, I can tell you that!

Seems that they do listen too much. If the green policy is any indication.


you know vasals, tiers of countries, hierarchy, homage.


Look, make a federal EU no problem with that. It must be a federal project not a one where Germany has a privileged position as its boss. That is not federal that A German Empire.

Don't include into a political very difficult and ambitius projects of radical and often stupid idology. Like green energy, like LGBT and don't claim that is a wholesome EU project.

That is a radical, utopian experiment.
It can last 7 maybe 8 years and all the EU will crumble.

And then?

Instead of a strong union with many members? What then? Everybody again for his own? Or his bunch of allies against another bunch of allies?

That's your vision for Europe? Against the upcoming power blocs like the Chinese? What do you propose instead?

It isn't as if Poland was in any way better with union-building, wasn't it.....remember the downfall of your Commonwealth? Was that good for you in the end?

Is that hoping of the end of the EU really THAT smart?

Where I'm hoping? Its a prediction. If you build on same radical utopian idology that what will happen.


Well, there was a time of a constant war for about 100 years and it took another 100 after that to fall.
The way Germany take to the issue doesn't bode well.
Would you like some intel from those who know how to do it? USA or Poland?

They don't, that's the thing.


Of course not. There are many possibilities in the future and way the EU/EEA etc evolves can take more than one form. Different politicians/countries within the bloc and its allies have different visions. Nevertheless, this is a time in which some sort of bloc is essential and that co-operation rather than pointless disagreement and sabre-rattling is absolutely vital.

Nobody cares! Have you seen German party asking or consulting anyone? They just went ahead with their radical left wing ideology. They recipe for federal EU, we Germans are going to make all decisition and other need to do as they are told. Including issues that has nothing to do with the union.

LGBT, abortion and green energy.
Is that what you are for?

In what world is Germany radical left wing?

If you mean the Greens then say so....at the left election "Die Grünen" got not even 15% (14,8 %).

If you really think with that they rule the whole EU....what does that say about Poland?


Well....in my opinion totally preferable to a central state ruled from one overbearing power seat only...like the Third Reich....or the GDR....or China....or Russia...that never ended well!

But a closer Union it will be, with those members who see what's coming for Europe if we don't do something....anything....
If Poland prefers to go it alone again...well, maybe you will have better luck this time, albeit I doubt it!

Not in the first case....the closer Union will be much more about bundling our economical, military and in the end also our political powers....to be able to sit as equals on the future table with the other world powers!

Also for these disagreements a federal union would be so much better....as far as I know even the US has more liberal states and more conservative states....but in the end it's still the powerful USA!

We in Europe have never agreed on much....that won't change....but then there are just necessities of Realpolitik we better don't ignore much longer!

How so in an EU where all have the same voting rights?

Germany has some advantages to Poland, for sure.....the biggest is surely that West-Germany belongs to the founder nations, they helped to build it....these roots, together with the Frenchies and a few others, are the deepest and the biggest and the strongest.

But the rest is all Polands fault....it never gave the image to be fully committed...wanting to be fully part of it....more like "only for the money"....that doesn't make for much trust or many sympathies.

The other point ist that Poland is excruciatingly bad at networking...you know rubbing others peoples back so that they rub yours when you need them....besides Hungary, which is also quite isolated in Brussels, you have more often than not only achieved to be seen as "pouting alone in a corner"....never hesitating to blame others (preferably Germany) for your short comings.

That all is not very smart....and predictably it doesn't gain you much....but that behaviour can only changed by yourself!

Is to build federal Union for real and the right way. Not by declaring it by Berlin but by negotiating it with all the states.


LGBT, abortion and green are radical delusional left wing.


Yes, Germany will. What about the rest?


I want federal EU. I want the real federal union not some nonsense with that name but that will only work for Germany.
I don't want idology like gender, abortion, greens and all that.
They will open north streem 2 very soon - mark my words.

they will try to close coal in Poland. Stop atom energy in Poland. It will end Poland economically. When that will happen I will take my berreta 8 mm and demand Polexist and that will be on you.

Does that stress you more than poverty, repression and hatred?

Of course, just because many are thinking loud about it isn't the same as "declaring"....there will be alot of talking and discussing and even fighting beforehand before anything will happen!


Germany alone means nothing on the word scale...


I doubt that....the classical left has always been more interested with fighting the rich....not the heteros.....and green is just the industry of the future, there is nothing ideological about it, it's just a fact, because our fossil ressources are not endless, it's kind of logical. And just imagine no more paying for oil and gas, no dependencies on crazy dictatorships anymore....on the other hand leading the science behind it and later selling the high tech to the world and their grandmom! The possibilities to make good money and for jobs are as great as it has been once as the first stinking, slow, clumsy cars heralded the end of the horse-age....not that many riders had been immediately able to see that!

The earlier an industry manages the transition the better its standing will be in the coming decades!


Well....I hope nobody forces you to change your gender or to abort a baby....but leave it to others who feel the need to....it's called liberalism....I want my rights and to be left alone...and so I leave others to their rights and leave them alone.....I frankly don't care. What's important to them is not important to me. I think that's the general rule!


We wouldn't have to if our ability to gain energy from green sources would be much better already. That pipeline is a great argument to go green as soon as possible!


It won't be easy, that's for sure....but if you can imagine Poland in 50 years from now on....still on coal as all around you countries have gone green...what do you think that would mean for your economy?

Oh...and btw. THEY can do nothing....they can't make you close your coal mines, they can't force you to become a woman....I'm not sure how you think the EU works.

Very logical, very pragamtic and very wise. No ability to make enough energy from 'green' sources, ban nuclear power stations, ban coal and depend on Putin a KGB man for gas.

Germans - no there is no ideology and stupidity - not at all - we are Germans. Really?


Really? Seems to me Berlin thinks they will use Brussels as it is to that end. If Poland disagree they will stop money. Dare them to try!


You can hope all you want but that is not good enough. If we go federal I need that to be the law!


50 years is a long time. Iam talking about the next 25 years and there is no way Poland can or should ditch all the coal power in that time.

Before you start is not about wanting is about reality.


Not very good. They need to go if we are doing federal state. They are usless power hungry pawns, riddled with corruption, shady deals, lobbing and radical left idology.

EU work like a thug. Swinging papers like a bat for those with power Germany, France.

Heh:)

If it is not more than that I can live with it....

The French newspaper "Liberation" raises serious allegations against Austria's EU Commissioner Johannes Hahn: Hahn is said to have allowed lobbyists to invite him to hunting trips and expensive meals without reporting it, as intended.

Not rare in Austria. Or Poland.

Corrupt, unelected offcials paid by the people of the EU. Should go!

Normal for Austria.

And for Poland too.


Corrupt employees? Of course, and prosecuted too.

If you mean Poland going from our EU, you'd do well to look at its approval ratings. People here support membership.,

It is only a tip of the iceberg.
Klaus-Heiner Lehn chairman of EU Court of Auditors - Betrug and corruption.
There many others top EU frauds.

I hope they get them all.....

I think they will get away with it. Too many people on the top would have to go.

Imagine if China invades Taiwan and Russia invades Ukraine at the same time:

msn.com/en-us/news/world/satellite-images-show-the-buildup-of-russian-forces-near-ukraine-that-have-the-us-and-nato-worried-about-an-invasion/ar-AARx6sD

Poland is safe. Poland is ally to Serbia and have strategic partnership with Russia, moment when Poland gave its air space to Serbian military imports from Russia.

It's looking more likely, despite any peace initiatives. Whether they'd make a grab for the Przesmyk Suwalski at the same time (or even be able to) is a different question. Cutting their access to SWIFT off probably won't be much of a deterrent.

It was significant though that when the leaders of the main NATO countries had their talk today, Poland wasn't included.

As corruption in TSUE showed they don't make decisions based on the law but on political lobbing. Germany has a strong hold on lobbing and money.


Biden and his party, Roosevelt and his party, Generally american politicks seems to be void of a sound reason when it comes to EE. On the other hand they support Israel. It costly and doesn't really give them much.

By the way Warsaw mayor Trzaskowski a guy that wouldn't be able to run a lemonade stand wnat t chnage a name of a street. From Dmowski to Women Rights. It makes sense as nobody will stupport him but some fringe radicals.

Normal for Poland.


Devoid. Their 'America First' policy isn't new and is what to be fair one would expect. I doubt the other party would care either and of course their last 'leader', trumpet, was fat from hostile to his boss Putain.

Edit. Far not fat. Though he was actually unlikely to ever be mistaken for a sylph in a tutu in the corps de ballet.

When Trump was president Russia stayed in line while the US helped build and supply a Ukrainian army. With Biden the support for Ukraine stopped and Putin is back to sable rattling....

Explain that, please.

He would be right now, regardless of domestic politics thousands of miles away....

All the leftists and Snowflakes with TDS voted against Trump and not for Biden.

After all those russian hoax lies promoted by MSM and big tech suppressing real news stories ( hunters laptop) to help Biden. Low info voters stupidity think CNN is actually real news.

According this Xidens/Harris latest polls numbers 1/2 their voters now have buyers remorse.LOL Come on 22!

I guess you didn't read the news today, maf.

nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/us-delivers-rockets-to-ukraine/