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Should Poland face its moral responibilty for taking part in NATO and Islamic league`s attack agains



Crow
24 Mar 2016  #1

During Civil War and conflict in former Yugoslavia, in period 1991-1995-1999, NATO and EU acted in coordination and in alliance with Islamic league, against Yugoslavia and Serbia.

Now, its been 17 years since NATO attack on Serbia and Montenegro, what effectively marked final stage of combined Islamic league-EU-NATO operations against Yugoslavia and Serbia, what effectively ended in partition of parts of country. Being part of NATO and EU, Poland took part in all this. The quest of this thread is to found out, should official Poland face any moral penalties in the eyes of Polish public.

PM addresses central Remembrance Day ceremony



NATO was "killing citizens of Serbia, trying to kill Serbia," Aleksandar Vucic said in his address to a commemorative gathering held in the town of Varvarin.

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Serbia marks anniversary of start of NATO bombing

17 years ago today NATO forces began their air campaign against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SRJ), at the time consisting of Serbia and Montenegro.

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This image is from my city of Novi Sad (bridge was destroyed by Tomahawk missile, i sow it coming) >

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NATO bombing survivors remember Varvarin attacks

Source: Tanjug Thursday, March 24, 2016 | 11:50

"I never will, and I cannot forget what happened on May 30, 1999," Miroslav Dakic, a survivor of NATO's attack on a bridge in Varvarin, said on Thursday.

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"I heard the screams of the girls who were holding on to the railing of the destroyed bridge, and I ran to help them," Dakic said.


Dougpol1
24 Mar 2016  #2

MODS please take down this nationalist post. I find it offensive and an insult to the 100,000 victims of that war. Crow is a nationalist propogandist and a War Crimes apologist, and this forum is about Poland and not his dream of a greater Serbia.

Thank you.

Wulkan
24 Mar 2016  #3

I find it offensive and an insult to the 100,000 victims of that war

Not a historian are ya?

Crow
24 Mar 2016  #4

President honors victims at hospital targeted by NATO

All places of suffering during NATO's bombing, the Dragisa Misovic hospital more so than others, represent "a civilization's disgrace in the late 20th century."

Minister honors police officers fallen in 1999

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Serbian Interior Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic on Thursday laid a wreath in a tribute to Serbian police officers killed during the 1999 NATO bombing.


Crow
24 Mar 2016  #5

Parliament of Poland

Kornel Morawiecki krytykuje oderwanie Kosowa od Serbii i inwazjÄ™ na Irak



Crow
2 Apr 2016  #6

Merged: Serbians - factor that connects Poles and Russians and influence them to live in peace ?

There is the factor that connects Poles and Russians, ordinary people, intelligentsia, as well as different political groups, including patriots and even right wingers. That factor are Serbians, often described as stubborn Slavs. Serbs never denied that is peace between Poland and Russia their strategic aim, vital interest.

Only two videos as examples out of many that could be found on youtube, every year by year, in last, let`s say 15 years.

Poland - Demonstrations in support to Serbs 2013



Russia - Demonstrations in support to Serbs 2015

youtube.com/watch?v=4gWPzpZ7Pls

Crow
5 Jul 2016  #7

Very wise by NATO ruling establishment, those greedy snakes and morbid abominations. They sense how is Poland on the edge of rebellion against that dark alliance of terror.

jon357
5 Jul 2016  #8

They sense how is Poland on the edge of rebellion

Nobody else does. Not least because Poland wholeheartedly supports NATO.

Crow
5 Jul 2016  #9

word `wholeheartedly` really sound inappropriate to me, in this context. Its even disgusting.

What i know and, i know a lot of, most of Poles today sense that after Warsaw Pact, Poland, falling in hands of NATO, fall in just another sh**. How to escape sh**? Well, could be done in several ways.

jon357
5 Jul 2016  #10

most of Poles today

Rubbish Crowie.

Crow
5 Jul 2016  #11

Poles are freedom loving people. Plus, wise.

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jon357
6 Jul 2016  #12

Your mentally unhealthy rantings about Serbia and geopolitical conspiracy woo belong elsewhere; the mods even set up a special thread for them.

This thread is about disruptions in the city centre due to the NATO summit.

Crow
7 Jul 2016  #13

We see that Tony Blair facing consequences for his aggressive moves against Iraq. Its just the matter of time when would he & co finish in jail because of British role in destruction of Yugoslavia and attack on Serbia.

"Britain went to war in Iraq before exhausting alternatives"

With `friends` like Britain, Poland truly don`t need enemies.

Crow
13 Aug 2016  #14

[moved from]

whom NATO helps, God has given up from him and he is under jurisdiction of Beelzebub.

Crow
13 Aug 2016  #15

Let us pray that Serbian Vuk Jeremic becomes new UN secretary-general and bring peace, balance and order to this suffering world.

Polonius3
14 Aug 2016  #16

NATO is terrorist

That is a distorted Serbian view. NATO punished Serbs for their atrocities so you resent them, but it is the best defensive alliance around. The Serbian commanders you regard as heroes are actually war criminals. The countries once plagued by the Turks (Serbs, Bulgarians, etc.) tend to have a rosy view of Russia as a liberator. Most of Central-East Europe regard the Russians as ruthless aggressors.

Crow
14 Aug 2016  #17

That is a distorted Serbian view.

not distorted and not only Serbian view.

NATO punished Serbs for their atrocities so you resent them, but it is the best defensive alliance around.

In civil war and conflict that occurred during dissolution of Yugoslavia, in comparison to other sides involved (NATO included) Serbians were side that was most gentle. Other sides operated by old, planed and developed genocidal programs. This goes for NATO, too. NATO was lured in conflict because of Germany (that had genocidal plans for Serbs, same as for all Slavs) and USA (at that time USA congress declared that are Serbs, same as all Slavs, newcomers to Europe and Albanians are natives).

Plus, reasons for NATO involvement were anti-Serbian and anti-Slavic deals with Saudis and Turkey, that had to result on blossom of Islamism on Slavic ground and in the heart of Europe. Also, deals with Germany regarding Germanic expansion. Britain had interests just to see Serbians drop dead because Britain wanted area clear from any strong Polish and Russian influence. France as France, weak and dirty, followed. To all that, Serbians were obstacle and for that they were punished.

The Serbian commanders you regard as heroes are actually war criminals.

untrue. Ratko Mladic ended genocide on local Serbians committed by worse Arab, Islamic league and Bosnian mujaheedines whom NATO transported to area, using UN and USA airplanes.

The countries once plagued by the Turks (Serbs, Bulgarians, etc.) tend to have a rosy view of Russia as a liberator.

See how you know little. Actually, Serbians were saved by the Poles because if not for the Polish respond to our call for help, Ottomans would destroy Serbians in greatest genocide and onslaught that history ever sow. Those were Poles who came and broke the Ottoman spear, preventing Turks to turn Serbia into eternal sh**, deep within their evil empire. Thanks to Poles only half of Serbian lands was under Turkish occupation and even parts within Ottoman Empire existed as border region of Ottoman Empire. Thanks to it and to our constant resistance, Serbian lands never were declared to be land suitable for Turkish settlers from Anatolia. It was critical fact that saved us.

Anyway, Russians came to aid later. Much later. Still, they too played their role and it also saved us. For more then 100 years Russia waged war with the Turks.

Most of Central-East Europe regard the Russians as ruthless aggressors.

yes. For that fact. Serbians sided with Poles. Russian hostility on Poles, Ukrainians and Czechs was only reason that Serbians and Russians ever had conflict in history.

Polonius3
14 Aug 2016  #18

Serbians were side that was most gentle

Yes, and they displayed their gentleness at the Srebrenica Massacre.

Polonius3
14 Aug 2016  #19

Srebrenica Massacre

This is what Wikipedia says abiozt this:
11 July 1995 - 22 July 1995
Target Bosniak men and boys
Attack type
Military assault, mass murder, ethnic cleansing, genocide
Deaths 8,373[1]
Perpetrators Army of Republika Srpska[2][3]
Scorpions paramilitary group

Crow
14 Aug 2016  #20

This is what Wikipedia says abiozt this:

see, obviously somebody wrote it in Wikipedia. But, that`s not what UN said about event. Genocide happened on Serbs.

Crow
14 Aug 2016  #21

People, multi-Polar world is already reality and NATO is past. Vuk Jeremic would form UN army for emergency situations so that never again happen that what happened to Yugoslavia, when NATO illegally, no matter UN opposition, intervened and attacked us. Not only us. Era of NATO`s policing the world is over.

Polonius3
15 Aug 2016  #22

NATO

NATO rushed to the aid of the Bosniaks being mercilessly slaughtered by Serbs. It's hard to say how many lives they saved.
Foremr Yugoslavia should have redrawn its borders to eliminate ethnic enclaves such as the Serbian Republic in Bosnia. Balkanisation has always been a source of trouble. Wherever possible each country should have been given access to the sea.

Marsupial
15 Aug 2016  #23

It got out of control crow that's why nato came.

Crow
18 Aug 2016  #24

International community is on the way to rehabilitate former Yugoslavian and Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic. So, it would be one more proof that attacks on Yugoslavia, Serbia, same as conflicts and wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc, etc, etc, .... were desired wars that were justified in mass media, while in reality all charades had something else in the background.

In context of this thread it means that Poland, being member of NATO, share responsibility for all what other NATO members doing. To be free from that responsibility some future Poles would have to decide that NATO isn`t alliance for Poland.

For all what somebody sign or decide for Poland and in the name of Poland, comes the price.

Crow
22 Aug 2016  #25

news

Military Escalations in Ukraine, Aug 18, 2016

youtube.com/watch?v=VHHCA-XkLF0

Marsupial
22 Aug 2016  #26

I love fake news crow.

Crow
22 Aug 2016  #27

Why fake? i won`t go into all technical details, but, we all know that Anglos wants to destroy Slavic world. Its not secret that USA and western Europe tries to keep policing the world

Marsupial
22 Aug 2016  #28

I don't know mate I could make a vid like that too. Does it prove anything? Sure anglos want to control but so does russia so does china so does....others.
Just doesn't prove anything to me.

Crow
22 Aug 2016  #29

Sure anglos want to control but so does russia so does china so does....others.

exactly because of `keeping control` over the control, we need Multi-Polar world, which is option against which NATO powers (magnates) fights. NATO powers wants sole control over the world for themselves.

Marsupial
22 Aug 2016  #30

I would say there is more threat from communist scab china in the south china sea rather than what is happening in uki land.


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