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Should Poland face its moral responibilty for taking part in NATO and Islamic league`s attack agains



Crow
10 Sep 2016  #61

Polonius3

Srebrenica and surrounding areas was under control of worse Arab mujaheedines and regular Bosnian Muslim fighters. Serbians had to liberate it, to save their people that were until then still alive, while many were already killed in genocide (more then 3000 Serbian man, woman and children). Then comes the Ratko Mladic and liberate area.

Now, being aware of still active mujaheedines in the area and at the same time, aware of desire for revenge among local Serbian population (that was previously exposed to mujaheedine bestiality) and among his fighters, Ratko gave orders: 1. secure the area. 2. gather all Muslim woman and children and provide them safe trip to Muslim controlled areas, 3. gather all Muslim man in one place and check are there hidden fighters among civilians, then, separate fighters among captives.

But, at one moment gathered Muslims tried to escape supported by remaining mujaheedine forces. Chaos occurred in which many Muslims (fighters and civilians mixed with them) were killed. Escaped Muslim fighters and mujaheedines founded shelter in USA military bases in the area. Also, after Muslims unsuccessfully attempted to escape, we know for examples of execution by some paramilitary groups. Members of those groups, who were citizens of Serbia, were later busted, put on trial and jailed.

What i know, total score among dead Muslims was around 5000 man. If chaos didn`t occurred number would be smaller. See, it was dirty and chaotic war. Exactly as Germanics and Anglos desired to happen to us Yugoslavians.

Crow
10 Sep 2016  #62

Plus. For all the time when Srebrenica was under mujaheedine control, the town and surrounding areas were under USA and EU insistence declared to be `UN safe heaven zone` , meaning, demilitarized zone. See, in that `safe heaven`, under surveillance of NATO (NATO even transported mujaheedines in planes and vehicles; there are photos and videos, documents) genocide under Serbian man, woman and children was committed. i mean real genocide. Genocide by action by all meaning of the word genocide and genocide in the sense that it was committed by the plan that had genocidal ideology in its background.

That my dear Poloniuse3 are EU and NATO. That is west of Europe and USA. Friends of mujaheedines and Nazis. That is that promised future of Europe and world.

Polonius3
10 Sep 2016  #63

mujaheedines

Nowhere in this wikipedia and other reliable news reports of the Srebrnica massacre is there mention of any mujaheedines. You keep bringing them up appaently because the propagadna of war criminals like Radić and his ilk have brainwashed you. Now rewad how htigns really were!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

Crow
10 Sep 2016  #64

By the God, you really speak nonsense's. You are also kind of victim of that war.

Polonius3
10 Sep 2016  #65

nonsense

That is what the whole civilised world knows. Only the barbaric Serbs, who actually diplayed their enemies' heads impaled on poles as if this was the middle ages, call war criminals heroes and try to turn genocidal murderers into victims. Check out sources other than lying Serbian ones or you'll forever remain in the dark.

Crow
10 Sep 2016  #66

American monument dedicated to Al Qaeda fighters in Bosnia

America has right to know. As you will see from the text that follows - American government invested ONE MILLION dollars into this monument.

Source: srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/AlQaeda.html

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Date: Saturday, March 20, 2003
Place: Srebrenica-Potocari Memorial and Cemetery, Bosnia


Members of El muajheedine unit that operated in Srebrenica and many other areas in Bosnia

Mujahideen of Bosnia المجاهدين في البوسنة YouTube

youtube.com/watch?v=92eGHWIE0Vc

Then comes the Arab thanks to Clinton

Prince Turki Al Faisal Remarks - Prince Turki Al Faisal

youtube.com/watch?v=Eq6gMUPJ3tY

spot video at: 3:58 (citation > ``... Muslims will never forger your deliverance of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo ...``)

Polonius3
10 Sep 2016  #67

El muajheedine unit

War is war, everyone suffers including many innocent civilians, but say what you want, the El muajheedine unit did not masssacre 8,000 Serbian men and boys and dump them into a common death pit.

Crow
11 Sep 2016  #68

El muajheedine unit did not masssacre 8,000 Serbian men and boys and dump them into a common death pit.

8.000? wrong number. It was less then that. Just go google on that. Still, it would be much better if international commission verified the exact number.

Anyway, i found its odd to calculate exact number. It would be disrespect to those who were innocent in that. But, its even worse to exaggerate with numbers of killed in order to achieve some political aim.

So, i would focus on certain facts. i can even generalize to give you picture. In Srebrenica, in UN ``protected`` zone, Muslim side committed genocide on Serbian man, woman and children (more then 3.000 people; names are known). Then, Serbians responded and killed some number of Muslim man (exact number yet to be internationally confirmed). In the meanwhile, NATO played on the Muslim side.

Crow
13 Sep 2016  #69

By the law of `old wild west`, anybody who was caught with thief, even if he wasn`t thief, was considered to be thief and therefore was hanged.

By same logic, in Ukraine, all NATO soldiers who could be caught fighting side by side with banderists needs to be hanged. In Bosnia, when Serbian fighters caught NATO soldiers who fought side by side with Arab mujaheedines, there was no trial, in some cases. It was judged by the law of `old wild west`. You are with whom you are. Sure, in many cases politics prevented Serbians to kill more NATO soldiers caught fighting side by side with mujas.

Here is one example of how general Ratko Mladic (in Poland known as Ratko Racow), dealt with beasts, NATO captives who were support to mujaheedines:

Ratko Mladic - Srebrenica Fontana Hotel 1 - July 11, 1995 - Interrogation of NATO colonel Karremans

Spot how NATO beast and heretic but also weakling sweat and tremble in fear >

youtube.com/watch?v=idf_sdeVpO4

This is how Sarmatians of the Southern Gate doing their part. Do You doing Your party? Keep Slavic land (ie Sarmatian realm) clean from moral heretics and beasts.

Crow
13 Sep 2016  #70

You would note that heretic Karremans admits his support to Muslim extremists, instead to disarm them, by the UN decision. This cooperation of NATO and extreme Muslims in Bosnia happened exactly at the time when there was ongoing genocide on local Serbians in Srebrenica and neighboring villages. That way NATO officially took part in genocide on Serbs, when more then 3000 Serbian man, woman and children was bestially murdered by mujaheedines.

Crow
13 Sep 2016  #71

Ratko is hero. That`s how it is. Simple truth. Voice of free Sarmatians, us Serbians, who are last bearers of venerable Sarmatian name. Only sin of our warriors is that they didn`t kill more, so that monsters, fiends, moral heretics and beasts think twice and trice before endanger us again.

Polonius3
13 Sep 2016  #72

3000 Serbian man, woman and children was bestially murdered

Maybe that's Serbian arithmetic, but even if your 3,000 figure is correct, that is still less than the 8,000 Bosniaks brutally slaughtered on orders from war criminals such as Ratko.

Crow
16 Sep 2016  #73

Again, in Srebrenica, in UN ``protected`` zone, Muslims committed genocide on Serbian man, woman and children (more then 3.000 people; names are known). Then, Serbians responded and killed some number of Muslim man (exact number yet to be internationally confirmed). In the meanwhile, NATO played on Muslim side and also took part in genocide on Serbians.

Polonius3
17 Sep 2016  #74

NATO

After the 8,000 Bosnians butchered by Serbians -- men and young boys rouded up, slaughtered and dumped in death pits, NATO tried the save at least some Bosnians. Don't twist things around, turn aggressors into defenders and call war criminals heroes. In any war there are victims on both sides, but in this case SERBIA WAS THE MAIN BLOOD-THIRSTY, LAND-GREEDY GENOCIDAL VILLAIN. You yourself have intimated as much by saying only 3,000 Serbians were killed whilst 8,000 Bosnians met a brutal death at the hands of rampaging barbaric Slavs every bit worthy of Vlad the Impaler.

Crow
17 Sep 2016  #75

Then again,... in Srebrenica, in UN ``protected`` zone, Muslims of Bosnia and worldwide mujaheedine Islamic league committed genocide on Serbian man, woman and children (more then 3.000 people; names are known). Then, local Bosnian Serb forces responded and killed some number of Muslim captives and man (exact number yet to be internationally confirmed). In the meanwhile, NATO played key role in transporting mujaheedines into Bosnia, in arming of Muslim side and side by side with mujaheedines also took part in attacks on Serbians. By all its actions NATO took part in genocide on Serbian civilians, reducing that way Slavic factor in the region and increasing worldwide Muslim potential. By that we must conclude that is NATO nothing but terrorist organization and deeply anti-Slavic.

Poloniuse3, i suggest you to repeat this above comment to yourself until your brain begins to melt. Maybe that way you can annul effects of experiments by Anglo and Germanic spin doctors who indoctrinated you to be that deluded. Sorry, i`m not psychiatrist and so i can`t help you more. Still, my prayers are with you.

Polonius3
17 Sep 2016  #76

Bosnian Serb forces responded

Serb forces had no business killing Bosnians in Bosnia. Just as Bosnians did not enter Serbia and try to take it over. The Serbs wanted to expand Serbian territory and hegemony. But those invding Serbs were stupid if they didn't realise that the main cause of conflict in the Balkans was Balkanisaiton -- too many overlapping ethnic enclaves. A wise leader would have redrawn borders to create roughly homogenous ethno-religious states rendering all the Yugoslav wars pointless. Think how many lives would have been saved and how much less property would.
have been destroyed.

Polonius3
18 Sep 2016  #77

indoctrinated you

Indoctrinated me? That whole civilised wored knows this. It is common knowledge. Only some crazy, off-the-wall Serbian nationalists have twisted things to suit their Greater Serbia pipe-dreams.

Crow
18 Sep 2016  #78

Indoctrination, indoctrination. You losing yourself, man. You know that genocide was committed on Serbians but you ignore that and just continue to repeat that some Serbians committed crime. Well, my dear, good morning. When one people get exposure to genocide, its quite expected that some individuals of that people commit some atrocities in return, in vengeance. Sure, i won`t say its alright but, sh** happens when you provoke sh**.

Not to mention that whole that war and chaos was created by NATO and EU leading powers in deal with Islamic league and sponsoring local Nazi and Wahhabi movements, to which Serbians stood to resist.

Polonius3
18 Sep 2016  #79

some Serbians committed crime

"Some"? Bloodthirsty, land-greedy Serbs committed one of the 20th century' vilest acts of genocide when they butchered 8,000 (not a paltry 3,000) Bosnian men and boys and raped the women they left behind.
All ex-Yugo nations share some blame for the bloodbath known as the Yugoslav wars, but the Serbs and Croats were the guilltiest bycause they have the most victims to their credit. Blind nationalism, paranoid dreams of Greater Croatia and Greater Serbia and the resultant ethnic hatred and land hunger were among the main causes of the bloody turmoil. But the main cause was negligence. The individual nations started by sending in their armies to expand theri territory. If they had not been so blind, they would have convened an All Post-Yugoslav Congress to resolve ethno-relgious problems once and for all. It might have taken a few years to achieve consensus on how to redraw the boundaries and how to carry out out population exchanges, but several years of tough dialogue would still have been better than the death and destruction you hot-headed Balkanites visited on your own countries.

Crow
18 Sep 2016  #80

Stereotypes and indoctrination. You are full of it Poloniuse3.

Still, there is the lesson. In world without order, if you commit genocide on Serbians sh** can befall you. Can you imagine what could happen in London for example, when Serbians come to repay the debt to Brits. And they would come. They are inevitable. Inevitable as death.

Ratko Mladic humiliates NATO colonel Karremans >

Mladic & Karremans - Shortened & Engl. Subs

youtube.com/watch?v=kIxrCOM01lM

Polonius3
18 Sep 2016  #81

Serbians

Serbia, Serbia, Serbia ad nauseam without end. Just another small insignificant country... A mere 3,000 Serbs were killed as a reaction to the Srebrnica bloodbath of 8,000 Bosnians males by barbaric Serb cut-throats. That pales in comparison to what the Armenians suffered at the hands of Turks (well over a million killed), Wołyń (100,000 Polish victims) and Katyń (22,000), so why go on and on about it?

Crow
18 Sep 2016  #82

More then 700.000 Serbians was killed in most bestial genocide, in Nazi puppet state of Croatia during WWII. In 1995, again in Nazi puppet state of Croatia, in single military operation more then 250.000 local native Serbians was ethnically cleansed and 20.000 killed in the process. During entire Civil War more then 350.000 Serbs was ethnically cleansed from what is now pro-German Nazi Greater Croatia.

Polonius3
18 Sep 2016  #83

250.000 local native Serbians

Thta's my point. Instant of sending armies in to resolve disputes, a way should have been sought to remove those 250,000 Serbs from Croatian territory regardless off how long they had lived there and repatriate them to Serbia proper along with the proper border adjustment. If you haven't undesood that ethno-religious enclaves such as those of Yugoslavia spell disaster, you never will! Military solutions are rarely ever the way to go.
BTW somehow you never mention how many Croats were killed by Serbs. Remember: the whole world does not revolve around Serbia, just another small, insignificant country.

Crow
18 Sep 2016  #84

a way should have been sought to remove those 250,000 Serbs from Croatian territory regardless off how long they had lived there

So, you are the Nazi after all? Aren`t you? Supporter of ethnic cleansing? or you just hate Serbs? hate Slavs?

and what Croatian territory? That one recognized by Germany, in borders cratered by communists, while Serbia wanted to negotiate about peaceful dissolution of country in situation when Croatia wanted to go (BDW to go, without proper democratic referendum), violating its own and Yugoslavian constitution? But, not only that. Its not Serbia who attacked but Croatian paramilitary attacked Yugoslavian army and local Serbs in Krajina. That`s how war started. That ``Croatian`` territory?

Military solutions are rarely ever the way to go.

yes, i know that. Its not Serbs who started. But we shall be victorious at the end. i know, what makes you go crazy is fact that Poland seek to abandon NATO and join on the side of Serbians.

Polonius3
19 Sep 2016  #85

local Serbs in Krajina

Again, there should be no "local Serbs in Krajina". Unless you didn't follow my argumentation, let me repeat: the existence of ethno-religious enclaves is the main source of all you people's troubles, so get rid of them. The country should have been redrawn to create homogenious ehtnic territories with no Croats in Serbia, no Serbs in Bosnia, etc., etc. That is not genocide or ethnic cleansing but consentual reorganisation of the state. Outside experts from the UN and other international bodies should have been called in the supervise the project. Instead you hot-headed south Slavs sent in your amries to grab more land for yourselves based on long invalid historical memories and mediaeval, myths and legends.

Polonius3
19 Sep 2016  #86

Its not Serbs who started

According to you, Serbs can do no wrong. Everybody else can and does nasty things, only Serbs are perfect, commit genocide only to defend themselves and generally are God's gift to humanity.

Crow
19 Sep 2016  #87

So, if i understand you correctly, Plloniuse3, you suggest that remaining Serbs from Kosovo abandon region and that Kosovo remain ethnically pure Shiftar (Albanian)? Or, by the same receipt, you suggest that ethnic Poles abandon Silesia if Silesians declare independence. Or maybe, you suggest that Tatars abandon Crimea, so that Crimea remain only to ethnic Russians? Or, maybe you suggest that white Americans abandon California if Mexicans declare independence? Is that it? Or, do you suggest that other Spaniards abandon Catalonia when Catalonia separate from Spain?

You truly have twisted ideas, Polonuse3. Its not how things work. Usually, states tend to preserve its integrity. Also, people tend to have same rights as other peoples. Meaning, if some country fall in turmoil for all sorts of reasons, if one people wants its ethnic state, other peoples also wants their own ethnic states.

Polonius3
19 Sep 2016  #88

Serbs from Kosovo

I was not referring to the whole world but specificlaly ot post-Yugoslavia and its reckless, emotional, hot-headed and irresponsible people who desroyed their own countries and lefts mounds of corpses in the wake of their land greed and dreams of Greater Croatia, Greater Serbia or whatever. Poland is an example to follow. The Lwów, Grodno and Wilno regions were cradles of Polish ethnic culture but no-one today is demanding their return, realising that Ukrainians, Belarusians and Lithuanians also have their legitimate rights and claims. So yes, if the Serb minority in Kosovo cannot behave and cause trouble, they should be repatriated to Serbia proper. Who cares about the Battle of Kossovo in 1348 or 1522 or 1703 or some legendary Serbian golden age! That is now only history and will never return. You south Slavs have clearly demonstrated that without the iron grip of a communist dictatorship (Tito & Co.), you cannot live together in a civilised manner, so redrawing borders and trasnferring population seems the only logical alternative.

Crow
21 Sep 2016  #89

Ptaku - Kosowo jest Serbskie (NaRa)

youtube.com/watch?v=3Y64XJk-63U

sawiiii
21 Sep 2016  #90

yes, I'm pretty aware of Serbian's love to Russians...
just exactly the opposite of "Kosovians", as they hate Russia and love US. why most of the Serbs hate US


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