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johnny reb
5 Nov 2016  #451

Your arguments are once again far too simplistic to respond to effectively!

I have purposely simplified them just for you. :-)

What sort of correct choices did you make, for example?

Got a JOB when I was 14 years old washing dishes at a restaurant six nights a week after school until midnight.........learned responsibility and self worth.

Always paid cash for things that I wanted or needed and if I didn't have the cash I went without (they call that LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS)

Those are just starters but I don't want to bore you with 'common sense'.

Stop being so smug, Johnny,

I am not being "smug", I am very proud of the sacrifices I made to get where I am at without taking handouts to do it.

Sounds to me like you are very jealous.
How far in debt are you by making bad choices Lyzko ? :-o

with Hillary's slim yet commanding lead in the polls

May I repeat and repeat and repeat, "polls are meaningless".
She is not in a COMMANDING LEAD any more than Trump is.

The country hasn't decided to self-destruct just as yet.

The country died November 2008 when Obama got elected and has been self destructing rapidly ever since.
More people out of work, more people on food stamps, more murders in the cities, more debt created then all the rest of the Presidents totaled, higher health care coverage's, freedoms taken away, minute if any social security increases.......

come on Buddy, do I need to come to your class and teach it for you ?

The US is STILL a country of law.

Yeah but the 'selective' justice system is what sucks.
The whole damn Clinton Crime family should be in prison.

Trump supporters would do well to remind themselves of the seriousness of any rioting

You have celebrating the Trumps Presidency mixed up with rioting somehow.
Crooked Clinton is really slipping fast as Trumpster is coming on strong in the last week here.
Did you listen to Hannity today where he interview the (then twelve year old girl that was raped by a 41 year old man) that Hillary GRILLED RELNTLESSLY with questions that would be illegal to use in todays courts to get her defended off and then laughed about it knowing that he was guilty ? (They had it on a recording of Hillary laughing about it that Hillary did not deny)

The little girl was so violently raped that she could never have children because of it.
The woman now said she remember Hillary asking her if she had sexually fantasies because of the "kind of family" that she came from.

I could have puked.
Then Crooked Hillary campaigns how she is out to help children !
No, no she is not presidential material Lyzko.....she is a slime ball opportunist who has used the United States for her personal enrichment and there is no denying that no matter how hard you try.

If she gets elected nothing will get done in this country for at least two years as she will be spending all of her time trying not to get indicted.

BET ME that Obama gives her a full pardon before he leaves office.......Bet me Lyzko.
I do dream that I could sit in and debate you in front of your classroom Lyzko.
When I got done with you you would know if you had been punched or bored.

Lyzko
5 Nov 2016  #452

Off on yer dates there, bud!

The country basically became terminal round about '68-'69 post-Woodstock, but she "died" the year Reagan took the helm, ridding our society of all that was still civil, decent, and average. More people lost jobs (never to be recouped, by the way, in some cases, not for almost 20 years!) than during the Great Depression. That's something to be proud of??!

Roosevelt saved the country and the world. What have we done lately???

Crow
5 Nov 2016  #453

If Clinton win, USA would become banana state.

Lyzko
5 Nov 2016  #454

Any more than she already is??

dolnoslask
5 Nov 2016  #455

Roosevelt saved the country and the world.

What when he sold Poland out to the Soviets in the hope they would help him against the Japanese, yep he may have saved the USA, but he sold out eastern Europe to became Stalin's slaves.

His slave owning family history probably enabled him to get a good price.

johnny reb
6 Nov 2016  #456

yep he may have saved the USA,

Roosevelt started a war for the U.S.A. to put people to work where many people lost their lives and turned typewriter factories into munitions factories.

Roosevelt prostituted America to create WAR jobs where Raegan's trickle down effect was in fact genius regardless of what some Socialist Liberal school teacher tries to tell you.

Raegan was twice the president Roosevelt ever was.
Lyzko has 'tried' relentlessly in this thread to spread propaganda about his god Roosevelt because foreigners don't know any better.

Roosevelt saved the country and the world.

Oh horse sh*t Lyzko !
What book did you read that in to form such a wreckless OPINION ? lol
Trump will save the country and world. lol
Holds about as much water as your false opinion. lol

dolnoslask
6 Nov 2016  #457

Roosevelt started a war for the U.S.A.

I honestly don't think he set out to start any wars, but his libtard cowardly sucking up to Stalin was just in his nature, If he had half the balls of the American people and its generals he would have told Stalin to stand down over Europe , If not the Nagasaki bomb could have been delivered to Moscow.

Imagine a world without the iron curtain and the cold war, he sold out the world for a bag of sweets.

Should have given Patton the job to finish off the butcher Stalin.

Harry
6 Nov 2016  #458

The country died November 2008 when Obama got elected and has been self destructing rapidly ever since.
More people out of work

Oh dear, I take a few days off this place because I'm sick of pointing out your lies, and as soon as I come back I see you're up to your old tricks again. You tell us that under Obama "More people out of work". The reality is that under Obama the unemployment rate is down to 5.0%, the number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 and there are 9,265,000 more jobs. Source: factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update

more murders in the cities,

Yet again you are lying.

The long-term trend is a decline, not only in the murder rates per population, but the total number of murders in the cities Obama mentioned, and nationwide.

factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/

Hillary GRILLED RELNTLESSLY with questions that would be illegal to use in todays courts to get her defended off and then laughed about it

Wow, so many lies in so little space.
First, Hillary didn't grill the victim in the slightest. She didn't even ask the victim a single question. The victim didn't even speak at the trial. Not a single witness was called at the trial.

Secondly the rapist plead guilty as charged and got a five-year sentence, Hillary did not "get her defended off".
Read the case files for yourself: scribd.com/doc/229667084/State-of-Arkansas-V-Thomas-Alfred-Taylor
Thirdly, she laughed, a decade later, about her faith in lie detectors after that (as the rapist had taken and passed a lie detector test) and the judge's sexism.

washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/19/did-clinton-laugh-about-a-rapists-light-sentence-and-attack-sexual-harassment-victims

Ziemowit
6 Nov 2016  #459

I take a few days off this place because I'm sick of pointing out your lies

And when are you going to grow up, Harry?

Marsupial
6 Nov 2016  #460

3 days till trump wins. Thank god. I am over it.

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #461

Oh dear, I take a few days off this place because I'm sick of pointing out your lies

Harry, don`t be a flippant now. Don't go. Don`t separate us from your observations. No matter how superficial, it bringing great fun to me.

Wulkan
6 Nov 2016  #462

And when are you going to grow up, Harry?

Looks like that day will never come.

it bringing great fun to me.

It brings great fun to all of us.

Lyzko
6 Nov 2016  #463

Question is, Johnny, for WHOM will Trump allegedly save the world?? For other greedylocks dirt bags like himself, no doubt:-)

Harry
6 Nov 2016  #464

And when are you going to grow up, Harry?

Ah, 'Mo, how nice of you to underline that even Johnny's fellow liars, such as you and Wulky, know that Johnny has yet again been caught trying to sneak blatant whoppers onto this board. If you weren't so certain, instead of just trying to post insults, you'd try to dig up some sort of source that supports his laughable claims. Perhaps offer us some data that shows there are more people unemployed or some documentation to show that Hillary did question that girl or that her client didn't go to prison. But you don't do that, because it is crystal clear even to the likes of you that yet again Johnny has been nailed telling lies to us, yet again.

johnny reb
6 Nov 2016  #465

he sold out the world for a bag of sweets.

Roosevelt was at the right place at the right time with the "Industrial Revolution" taking place which put everyone to work.
It was NOTHING he did personally.
This has been explained patiantly several times to Lyzko in this thread.

I'm sick of pointing out your lies

OH MY....MY MY.....I must defend myself AGAIN to Har. LOL
And we are sick of your failed attempts just to have someone to argue with.

The reality is that under Obama the unemployment rate is down to 5.0%,

No 'reality' to it at all Har.
You don't live in the U.S.A. so all you have to verify such a lie is your selective google sources.
The reality is that most of the unemployed have given up looking for a job and now live large on government subsidies which is three times what they could make working a minimum wage job.

If these people were counted you would see that your 5% figure would be closer to 20% unemployed.
You should stick to arguments that you are an authority on and this one YOU ARE NOT ! lol

Hillary didn't grill the victim in the slightest

I heard it myself Har, by the now woman herself, in a LIVE interview, tell how Hillary GRILLED her relentlessly with questions that she did not even understand about sexually acts and fantasies when she was just twelve years old.

She gave the interview with nothing to gain from it besides the fact that now Crooked Hillary is campaigning on how she loves and wants to protect children. lol

She didn't even ask the victim a single question

Really, did you read the deposition taken from the victim by Hillary BEFORE the trial Har ?

Not a single witness was called at the trial.

Nope because the Rapist plea bargained a 30 year sentence down to five years for a guilty plea.

Secondly the rapist plead guilty as charged and got a five-year sentence

Yes, he got a 30 year sentence pled down to a 5 year sentence AND ENDED UP DOING JUST ONE YEAR and then released for brutally raping a twelve year old girl so bad that she could never have children.

Crooked Hillary did an excellent job fighting for JUSTICE that day didn't she ?????
She even bragged afterwards how she knew he was guilty.
Now she is campaigning that she supports 'helping' children. Pathetic !

Hillary did not "get her defended off".

Who said she did ?
We back to your "selective" reading comprehension AGAIN Har ?
What I said was......

with questions that would be illegal to use in todays courts to get her defended off

Just ANOTHER of one of Har's twisted lies.

girl or that her client didn't go to prison.

Another lie, who claimed that Har ?
You should stick to arguments that you are an authority on and this one YOU ARE NOT ! lol

You are no longer WORTH replying to your trolling Har.
All you do is disrupt a thread by going Off Topic so you will have someone to argue with.
You are a liar and intentionally do it to pretend how sophisticated you are as you sit on your bar stool with your laptop.
You drink for sophistication and when you do you become obnoxious.
Seems Sunday is your DRINKING DAY.

Now either stay on thread and debate the presidential election or 'sample' 50 beers today and leave us alone.

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #466

It brings great fun to all of us.

Harry have his role on this forum. I like to see that is someone more crazy then I am.

dolnoslask
6 Nov 2016  #467

Oh dear, I take a few days off this place because I'm sick

That will be the alcohol poisoning you got during the extended weekend holidays.

Harry
6 Nov 2016  #468

The reality is that most of the unemployed have given up looking for a job

Funny how you can't provide a source for that, isn't it.

by the now woman herself, in a LIVE interview, tell how Hillary GRILLED her relentlessly with questions that she did not even understand about sexually acts and fantasies when she was just twelve years old.

Either you are lying or she is. Given your extensive history of making things up, it's probably you.

Really, did you read the deposition taken from the victim by Hillary BEFORE the trial Har ?

Nobody can read what doesn't exist. Just as nobody can read your sources for your claims that Obama got 110% of the vote in some precincts. And just as nobody can read your sources for your claims that Trump never asked for contributions (but we can all read the Tweets in which Trump actually asked for contributions). And nobody can read your sources for your claims that a man registered Republican for more than a decade was a Democrat, etc, etc.

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #469

People, don`t let that Harry destroy your concentration. Even if in off-topic, elementary order demand that we stay on topic, if possible. If possible. Now, topic is interesting and we all unpatiantly wait to see how Clinton family finishes in oblivion of short USA history.

BDW, did I already mentioned on this forum that during NATO bombardment of Yugoslavia (Serbia) back in 1999, Serbians named Bill Clinton- `Clitor man` (Clitoris man)- it was association made of his family name and of his sex scandals

johnny reb
6 Nov 2016  #470

Now either stay on thread and debate the presidential election or 'sample' 50 beers today and leave us alone.

Har is deaf too. :-(

Just as nobody can read your sources for your claims that Obama got 110% of the vote in some precincts.

Another one of your lies Har.
h4cblog.com/obama-gets-110-of-all-votes-in-many-districts
Again, you are just ignorant to non literal English.

don`t let that Harry destroy your concentration

He can't help himself Crow.
Sunday is his drinking day at Hopsters and no one will sit next to his ornery old ass so he takes his laptop to talk to.

I like to see that is someone more crazy then I am.

You are a fun crazy with a great sense of humor and don't attack people maliciously.
Harry however suffers from Bi-Polar and is very negative and needs to build up his inflated ego.
Har is very negative and full of hate because the Polish and Americans have succeeded in life and he has not so he tries to belittle them with hate and arguing.

We should all pray for his lost soul in hopes he finds happiness in his sour life before he dies.
Lord I do lift Harold up to you that you may put some happiness in his life. Amen

Trump has caught Clinton and now is tied in key States.
msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cbs-poll-clinton-trump-even-in-ohio-and-florida/ar-AAjY49G?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U348DHP
May polls have Trump well out in front in Ohio.

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #471

INVOLVEMENT OF CLINTON FAMILY IN TERRORISM

Hilary Clinton with Hashim Thaci- leading member of terrorist organization UCK (so called ``Kosovo Liberation Army``) and today`s president of self-proclaimed Albanian (Shiftar) illegal state of Kosovo, for whom Serbia issued Interpol arrest warrant

NOTE:

the British weekly The European carried an article by a French expert stating that "German civil and military intelligence services have been involved in training and equipping the rebels with the aim of cementing German influence in the Balkan area.

Serbian authorities denounced the KLA as a terrorist organisation

Not long before NATO's military action commenced, the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants reported that "Kosovo Liberation Army ... attacks aimed at trying to 'cleanse' Kosovo of its ethnic Serb population."

The NATO North Atlantic Council had stressed that KLA was "the main initiator of the violence" and that it had "launched what appears to be a deliberate campaign of provocation".

Source: wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Liberation_Army

Members of USA administration with terrorists from UCK, during mandate of Bill Clinton as USA president

Bill Clinton with Hashim Thaci

Madeline Albright with Hashim Thaci

mo

BDW, little Madeline Albright with her family was during WWII saved by Serbians from the Nazis.

USA general Wesley Clark and EU representative French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner with Hashim Thaci and other member of UCK. Kouchner was later after Dick Marty's (and of Carla Del Ponte, a former chief prosecutor for former Yugoslavia) report in European parliament accused for taking part of organ trafficking from captured Serbian civilians on Kosovo.

Wesley Clark saluting the KLA terrorists in Kosovo

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #472

INVOLVEMENT OF CLINTON FAMILY IN TERRORISM

Saudi Prince Turki Al Faisal Remarks - Prince Turki Al Faisal thank Bill Clinton

spot video on 3:56 (as Faisal said: ``Muslims will never forger your deliverance of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo``, Bill Clinton looks puzzled that Faisal said in public about USA-Islamic league`s deal)

youtube.com/watch?v=Eq6gMUPJ3tY

This is direct proof that USA had strategic deal with Islamic league about destruction of Yugoslavia and partition of Serbia.

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #473

an articles in connection with Clinton`s involvement with terrorists

Czech president refers to Thaci as "war criminal"

30. April 2015. | 09:34 | Source: Vecernje novosti, Tanjug

Czech President Milos Zeman says that he personally does not recognize Kosovo as independent and therefore is not sending an ambassador to Pristina.

"well-known position that Kosovo is ruled by a mafia regime financed by drug trafficking," Zeman stated that he "said it many times publicly that Hashim Thaci is a war criminal".

Kosovo army would be rearmed KLA (UCK) - Czech president

Czech President Miloš Zeman has said that creating the armed forces of Kosovo would only mean that the KLA, responsible for terrorist actions, has been rearmed.

Czech President Says He Is Against Kosovo Independence

April 19, 2016, Tuesday @ 12:15 in World
independent.mk/articles/30717/Czech+President+Says+He+Is+Against+Kosovo+Independence

Milos Zeman declared that he is against Kosovo's independence and that he protested when former Czech Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg forced the government from that time to recognize Kosovo's independence.


Lyzko
6 Nov 2016  #474

And Trump's daliances with Putin are merely accidental?? If Putin's not a dictator, then who the heck is??

Crow
6 Nov 2016  #475

Tito was dictator, too. But, he was not entirely pest.

After all, are you still naive? Which president isn`t dictator? Which government isn`t oppressive mechanism? Which rebel leaders aren`t people who only seek to get something for themselves?

johnny reb
6 Nov 2016  #476

Which rebel leaders aren`t people who only seek to get something for themselves?

You nailed it again Crow.
Crooked Hillary's Foundation is suppose to help the people of Haiti when in fact the people of Haiti hate the Clinton's for USING their Country and suffering for the Clinton's personal gains.

Whoever gave the biggest donations to the Clinton foundation got the contracts to do work in Haiti which most of the time never got done properly yet they got huge personal kickbacks while the Clinton's just kept raking in the money to spend on what they called "Administration Fees".

Hillary has spent OVER $25 million on personal jets alone !
Hiring family and friends.
How do you think Chelsea got to be worth $15 million all of a sudden ?
Hillary claimed that when her husband Bill left the presidency after he was impeached that they were broke yet today they are worth over $350 million.

Crooked Hillary only does things for one reason........Personal Enrichment !

Wulkan
7 Nov 2016  #477

See how Harold fcuked off all of the sudden.

johnny reb
7 Nov 2016  #478

We should all pray for his lost soul in hopes he finds happiness in his sour life before he dies.

See how Harold fcuked off all of the sudden.

Just goes to show you how prayer is answered.

Crow
7 Nov 2016  #479

Crooked Hillary's Foundation is suppose to help the people of Haiti when in fact the people of Haiti hate the Clinton's for USING their Country and suffering for the Clinton's personal gains.

Clinton family turned USA army and complete NATO in terror mercenary force that wreck havoc all around the world, for the profit of Clinton`s and financial circles around Clinton family. How many USA rich families is involved in this kind of looting of the world.

That`s how Madeline Albright managed to profit millions of USA dollars on Kosovo. It was her dirty little war and she is now quite rich. Woman without any morale.

Spot thise few quotations from the article: That Crush at Kosovo's Business Door? The Return of U.S. Heroes
nytimes.com/2012/12/12/world/europe/americans-who-helped-free-kosovo-return-as-entrepreneurs.html

Albright Capital Management, founded by Ms. Albright, has been shortlisted in the bidding for a 75 percent share in the state telecommunications company, PTK. The company's sale is expected to bring in between $400 million and $800 million.

Senior executives of a sister company, Albright Stonebridge Group, are already small shareholders in PTK's only competitor, the private company IPKO, raising concerns on the threat to market competition if Ms. Albright's consortium wins the bid.

Mr. Pardew, the former American envoy, lobbied top Kosovo officials on behalf of a competing consortium, Twelve Hornbeams S.a.r.l /Avicenna Capital LLC.


Harry
7 Nov 2016  #480

See how Harold fcuked off all of the sudden.

Yes, it's almost as if I had finished my work, shut down the computer and watched the early football games.

Just goes to show you how prayer is answered.

Does that mean we should pray for you to name the precincts where you claim Obama got 110% of the vote? Pray for you to link the deposition you claim exists and shows Hillary grilling a rape victim? Pray for you to give us data showing unemployment went up under Obama? Pray for you to explain how your claim that Trump never asked for contributions is true while we can all read the Tweets in which Trump actually asked for contributions? Pray for you to tell us how a man who has been registered Republican for more than a decade is actually a Democrat?

I very much suspect that if anybody was foolish enough to waste the big man's time with such prayers, they'd just get back a message saying 'The creation of Johnny was simply proof that I'm not infallible; his continued existence is purely a test of your faith in me. Oh, and he is obviously a compulsive liar.'


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