US Presidential Elections 2016 - Poland's View

So, it looks like that USA loyal American financial circles rebelled against Clinton clan and a likes and, they then got support from Russia and China. Is that it? Russia and China actually saving democracy in USA?

The US-police have typically abused their power for YEARS!!! Nothin' new, gang!

Ordinary men (or women) who perform extraordinary deeds on the job, at the end of the day, are STILL ordinary people:-) The rare exception is just that, and sadly in my experience, they usually don't last long, because they're too decent for the profession.

This is what happens when the corrupted media manipulates people's minds, especially the ones with weak personalities. And we thought that people crying when Kim Jong il died were funny...

youtube.com/watch?v=fhJqMQSafRo

Ernest Hemingway in his book: ``For whom rings the bell`, said: ``When cry, we cry for us.`` Meaning, even when we lose somebody who is very close to us and then when we cry, we actually cry because of us, because we are affected, because we lost that person and not because that person lost its own life.``

So, these who cry because Clinton lost elections, they cry for themselves. Because their image of their `American dream` is violated, in their opinion. No, its not love for their country. Its selfish love. Selfish tears, as Hemingway nicely said. Poor hypocrites.

Trump's election signals the death of idealism in America and empowers the right-wing no-nothings throughout Europe, notably the PEGIDA and AfD in Germany!

Thank goodness as it is time the "everyone wins and gets a trophy" syndrome is put to death.
Right now the mentality is that college, food, healthcare and cell phone should all be free. LOL
Wake up call for all the free loaders as Trump will be calling in the student loan debt which now exceeds the country's credit card debt. (Trillions)

Socialism isn't what built America and has never worked in any country.
So for one, I am VERY HAPPY that Trumpecnomics will put an end to the freeloaders.
This is why Trump won the election is because people in America have had a belly full of what was/is destroying their great country.

The pretend idealism that the third generation of sissies deserve to win and get a trophy even if they are losers in reality is a river in Egypt called Denial.

And these leg humping poodles are having a temper tantrum now that reality is coming home to the big lie.
They can't handle the truth and hopefully will move to Canada as they contribute nothing to America anyways besides being a financial burden to America's pocketbook.

Shawn Hannity is buying free one way tickets in return for your American passport if you promise never to return.
Speaking of which..............when does your plane leave ?

I never thought that was funny, rather tragic. One never should presume what kind of a traumatic release triggers such a reaction in the country such as North Korea.

Whereas hysterical reaction of brainwashed people in the face of adversity gave only a sorry testimony to a fact that decline of western civilisation and civil virtues amongst USA's populace is not a figment of imagination.

Well, looks like CNN-USA is no better than North Korea

Without idealism, you have no civilization. I repeat, BACK IN YOUR CAGE!!!!!

One day, you'll listen commands like that from CNN and you will obey.

The demonstrations that are currently going on across the country are really crossing a line in my opinion. Trump won the electoral vote, so there's absolutely no need to discuss that any further. I'd say (although reluctantly), give the guy a chance and let's see which of his campaign promises really materialize. He will find out soon enough that being the US president is a bit more complicated than he thought, and the swamp he wanted to drain will swallow him within a year or so anyway. Just like Obama, who had the same ambitions.

What?! Where did your SJW spirit go? LOL

They forgot to tell you about democratic principles when you grew up in Poland in the 1970's, I know... LOL!

Yup, the only experience Obama had when he came into office was from reading off teleprompters when he was a community organizer in Chicago.
Trump couldn't possibly be any worse then Obama has been.


"idealism" is the same as Socialism which does not work, never has worked nor ever will work.
I can explain it to you over and over but can't make you understand it.
America does not want to be a Socialist Country because they have watched it's failure rate.
Now repeat that out loud a hundred times.
Canada has their welcome mat out for Americans like you Lyzko.

They forgot indeed, especially that I was born in 80's.

Draining the D.C. swamp? We'll see. Doesn't look too good right now.


So plenty of time to get you a real good commie indoctrination at school... :)

All we are saying is give Trump a chance...... not to Beatlele you lol

To the coddled youth of America that protests, cries, whines, and "every player gets a trophy" you are only disrupting you own democratic controlled communities that voted for CrookedH..... even funnier!

Get over it:)

It took me a long time to get over it when Obama got elected by giving out free cell phones for votes.
I was so totally zemmed that the lemmings came out of the woodwork to vote strictly for color and free stuff.
Then when he got elected the second time after printing money out of thin air to spend his way out of the trillions of dollars of debt, that he put the country in, I was numb so I left and went to Jamaica to lower my blood pressure.

What I did not do is throw bricks at the police, join in riots, burn things, threaten people on the streets with violence and act uncivilized or as Lyzko considers those things as "idealisms".


Really, you sound like some freshman in college. (If the true be know I would bet you are just that)
Without pragmatism you have no civilization as we are seeing in the streets of America today.
The proof of that is in the pudding and your idealisms don't seem to be working real well now do they.
You are the poster child for the results of outlawing the spanking of children Lyzko.

Idealism is NOT the same as socialism, as is feeling NOT the opposite of thinking.

Our country's desperately headed in the wrong direction and equating idealism with immaturity is merely a cheap shot by an overgrown cynic who has forgotten the right way to think and to live:-)

Reagan was the one who threw the monkey wrench into the works of Roosevelt's New Deal and gummed up everything for the thrifty middle class permanently.

Yes it was and that is why Trump got elected.
The American people were fed up with our President taking prayer out of our schools and telling us what bathroom to use.
Wake up and smell the coffee and accept the reality check that the Left just got smacked in the face with.


Smart on Reagans part as the Industrial Revolution mentality is outdated never to return.
Reagan recognized that we are now in a technology revolution and the die hard out dated New Deal left overs that are still camped on the New Deal must let go and move on with progress.


Reaganomics trickle down effect jump started the economy as it was designed to do for the times.
We have since moved on and now the Trumponomics will do what Obama couldn't/didn't do in the last eight years.
Just hide and watch from up there in your new home in Canada.

Patriot that I am, neither my family nor myself would turn tail and run in order to hide amid the ruffles of our neighbor to the north!

You clearly underestimate both the strength of my resolve, much less my character:-)

When a country's slated to go down the tubes, precisely the thing to do is to STAY, rather than leave!! While I've never been one for holding up peace signs as symbols of protest, I do believe that one can work WITHIN the system AGAINST the current system, and this includes voting down legislation which is clearly wrong for the country.

The New Deal is never out of date. To states such is to assert that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are out of date:-) If any president wishes to overhaul aka get rid of the New Deal aka Social Security and Unemployment Insurance, then let them replace them with an improved system which does exactly what those institutions did, only better for the people. Privatization clearly isn't the answer, as market specialists in investing are fewer and farther between than the rank-and-file folks out there, lucky to be able to retire at all and enjoy the fruits of the labors. You tell someone who expects to retire comfortably that they'll be left to fend for themselves on a park bench somewhere, just as happened before Roosevelt, he'll spit right in your eye and charge you for the eyewash!! Consider yourself fortunate if he doesn't bash your skull in.

What intelligent person can argue so wrongly as to imagine destroying the foundations of our present democracy?

No you aren't, not in the least bit.
You are a Socialist Liberal Marxist.
Patriots believe in the Constitution and the spirit it was written in.
You don't and want to change it.


The New Deal was back in the 1930's and not only is it out dated but it was a failure.

heritage.org/research/commentary/2009/01/get-over-it-new-deal-didnt-do-the-job

You may have it mixed up with Raeganomics which was brilliant and worked perfectly.

However since this thread is not about the New Deal and about the 2016 election we must stay on topic.
It does amaze me how the hypocritical Left that called Trump a bigot, hater, racist, bully and now themselves are out on the streets rioting, intimidating, destroying, assaulting, bullying, or in so many words doing EXACTLY what they accused Trump supporters of doing. LOL

The Clinton supporters sure are showing their true colors aren't they ? LOL
Trump came out this morning on the news and told the police to use force if necessary to clean up the streets of America and that he would stand behind them when he was sworn in.

Now how couldn't you be in support of a President that has some balls.
Obama has done NOTHING to stop the non sense from the young adults that still live in their parents basement.
By the time President Trump is done cleaning up the corruption in this country I will be proud to be an American again.

One who loves their country, and has seen it actually work for people such as they are, certainly IS a patriot, love it, and not be ashamed or afraid to criticize her, if need be. We all presumably love our parents, don't we, and yet we feel free to criticize them! "Love" doesn't mean unconditional submission, when you see the object of your love being led down the garden path to disaster, does it?!! That's passive, not active, affection.

No, you don't understand the meaning of the word "patriot". You're obviously confusing "patriot" with "demagogue" or "unthinking nationalist":-)

You need to get clear what is right vs. what is wrong.

Then why does Trump support ancient technology such as coal? The people who lost their coal mining jobs would be far better off with a proper manufacturing job than one that ruins their health.


After Reince Priebus and the alt-right favorite Steve Bannon, now possibly the former Goldman Sachs employee and George Soros friend Steven Mnuchin...

Good point, TheOther:-)

Besides, how is someone, who by his own admission NEVER paid workers for the labor and outsources business, good for beefing up the US-economy?!

The US-electorate has become the laughing stock of the world.

Seems you are just a tad bit bitter and stomping your feet like a three year old when they don't get their ice cream.

President elect Trump has hardly had time to take a shower and you are calling him a laughing stock ?
How about giving the guy a chance to prove himself before you pre judge him.
Now since Slick Willie & Crooked Hillary have ben exposed by WikiLeaks, they are the laughing stock of the world.
Now real slow Lyzko, say it, P.R.E.S.I.D.E.N.T. T.R.U.M.P.
There, see, that wasn't so bad now was it. :-)


More lies from your mouth Lyzko.
NEVER you say ? LOL
You are a piece of work. lol
The only time he did not pay laborers is when they did substandard work.
They call that BUSINESS.
To bad the teachers union doesn't allow that to happen to substandard teachers.

Work is work, labor is labor and must under the law be compensated, NO MATTER WHAT!!!!

Now, if the workmanship turns out to be slipshod, the workers are of course paid for their labor, but simply never used again, thus punishing their incompetence until such time as their work be on par with the standard specified under the terms and conditions of the contractor(s).

Reality check, bud! This is the way it is and always was, ok??

'Course if you live in a country which has tossed the rule book out the window since Reagan, you have people out there such as yourself, completely out of touch with the standard of behavior set down long before your grandmother was even a gleam in her mother's eye:-)

We're living in America, Johnny, and not some bloody free-for-all. There are rules which were good enough for Roosevelt, therefore, they're good enough for today.

CORRECTNESS NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE!

The behaviour of the luny left in the usa post election has lowered the opinion of the left here again. It was low already judging by the last election.

The far left has always been as "out there" as the far right, Marsupial!

Folks complained about "them bigoted Rep. rednecks from the Deep South.....", while the European leftists were doubtlessly AS anti-Semitic as any KKK-supporter, only for other reasons:-)

Who told you that you liar.
If the specifications of a contract are not met then NO, you do not have to pay for the sub standard work, are you nuts.


NO, not o.k. because it is simply not true bud.


NO, you are out of touch with the labor laws of America that were written well before you moved into your parents basement after graduating from college that you still owe the government and your parents for.


Yes we do and President Trump is going to give the Socialist Liberals of this country a real wake up call to "your self imposed bloody free for all" by undoing all of Obama's executive orders that are unconstitutional. :-)

The poor trannies aren't going to have anyplace to pee because they no longer will have the right to follow a six year old little girl into the woman's bathroom. :-)


Especially the Constitution that you Liberals want to bastardize and change to your liking.
President Trump ain't gonna let that happen buddy.


Neither does the laws of the Constitution as bad as you Liberals want to change it.
Maybe you will have better luck in destroying Canada's laws once you get moved up there.
You did say that you would be moving to Canada if Trump got elected or is that another lie ?


They sure are showing their true hypocritical peace loving colors now aren't they ?


Folks ? What "folks" ? You liberal bigoted hypocritical Democrats are out on the streets assaulting citizens, setting fires, assaulting the police, destroying personal property AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CALL THE REPUBLICANS BIGOTS !

Oh and us "Rednecks" not only live in the deep south but in the far north too only you leg humping poodle leftists call them "Hillbilly Rednecks".

Weese gotcha surrounded and just took our Country back to make it Great Again.
You had your eight years to destroy as much of America as you could and now it is OUR turn to have eight years to fix your failure.

Trump will start by undoing all of Obama's unconstitutional executive orders, building the wall and draining the swamp.


Us Ultra Conservative Constitutionalists prefer to call it a "Wake Up Call" for you Un Americans !