Poland - Serbia etc. thread

But it doesn't say how many Jews there are?

Oh, I forgot to add that there are 6,400,000 Jews in JEWSA. There is only 2% of them and they decide practically on almost everything. True 'democracy' no doubt! :\

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Serbian president Vučić 'fed up of being lectured' over ties with Russia and China

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Anti-NATO rebelion in Serbian Crna Gora! Its uprising!







More then half of the state populace is on streets defending Serbian Orthodox Church from dictator of Crna Gora and demanding unity of Crna Gora and Serbia!

So called 'independent' state of Montenegro is under the rule of Masons.

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Their aim is to destroy the Serbian Orthodox Church, to ban the use of Cyrillic alphabet and to make everyone write in Latin, to rename Serbian language to Montenegrin and to create a fake Montenegrin identity separate from the Serbian nation.

If Serbia is so very keen on touching each other's dicks with Russia - the same Russia that is hell-bent on destroying the European unity, then why is it their "ambition and strategic plan" to join the EU? As a Putin's trojan horse? Why not join the Russian Federation as a member state?


What rebellion? Czarnogóra is a reliable NATO member since 2017.


But it was Montenegro who demanded independence from Serbia in the first place, is it not?


...a completely and utterly impossible thing to do, UNLESS that's what Montenegrins want.

If you are supposedly Polish, how is possible that you don`t understand that you Poles, too, need to have at least normal relations with Russia? How? Its not the matter of emotion. Its simple, sanity.

Do you really believe its in best Polish interest Russia to cease to exist? Man, the next instant Russia collapse, Poland would be Germany or France. That much is Poland popular, in ``international` community.

Or, at ``best``, Vatican would turn Poland into clero-Catholic state (by the idea of `Kanopisht` - go google that) where is Slavic ethnicity erased and where Catholicism becoming ethnicity. Like in Islam.

So, Poles do need Russia to exist to preserve balance in which Poland can exist.


Naive, aren`t you.

Crna Gora Serbs never wanted to be part of NATO. NATO bombarded them in 1999. Only last communist dictator of Crna Gora Milo Djukanovic wanted NATO and NATO wanted Crna Gora. Rest is game.


Dictator of Crna Gora demanded. Rest is game.


Idea to create many new nations from within Serbian people do exist. Its by `divide et impera` logic. Croat, Bosniak, Montenegrin, is all result of it. `Ustasha` (worse then UPA in Ukraine- much worse) can be Catholic, Muslim or Orthodox. Its the matter of delusion, not of religion. Different religion, different tools to turn one into `ustasha`. But behind all `ustasha` is Vatican and Germanics. Its pro-Germanic Nazi ideology.

Normal relations is all we want. As soon as Russia stops threatening us with their missiles in Kaliningrad, stops spreading lies about WW2, and abandons their silly dreams of ever including Poland in their sphere of influence (we tried that - it didn't work), then we can have normal relations. It would also help is they ceased their aggression against independent Ukraine - they are both Slavic countries and both Orthodox heretics, they should get along rather well, shouldn't they?


Erm... where did I say that?

I hope Russia exists in peace - mnogaja lieta and all that - BUT if they want peace so much why all the army in Kaliningrad? Are they afraid Wojsko Polskie (there are no major foreign armed forces in Poland) is going to attack them? Really? Please... *facepalm*


Poland will always be Poland. We are like Japan or Hungary in this matter - our culture is simply too strong to ever be destroyed, even if we are defeated, we always rise like a phoenix from the ashes - but I don't have to tell you this, you know all that.


Catholic Church is the only church who has the organisation, institution and power to oppose the neo-pagan or neo-marxist currents omnipresent in today's world. That's why liberal propaganda attacks it all over the world (you don't hear them attacking lutherans, baptists or orthodox). Orthodox churches are too small, weak and ethnicity-oriented to be a major power against neo-marxism (we witnessed that in the 20th century when the Catholic Church was the leader of the fight against communism, and all the local Orthodox churches in Eastern Bloc were totally helpless, and very often cooperated with the communists). We appreciate the small help that they offer, but they would do much better if they abandoned their heretical, schismatical stance, and finally rejoined the One and Only... Holy... Apostolic... ROMAN-CATHOLIC CHURCH! *roar of applause from the audience*


Don't even mention Islam to me, Crow. Make a cross on yourself.


Germany is, by and large, a protestant country. It is also a country completely different from Catholic Poland, with a completely different civilisation. You are surely familiar with the works of Professor Feliks Koneczny, who very rightly observed that Poland is a Latin Civilisation country (like Spain, Italy, Portugal or France, for example) and Germany is a Byzantine civilisation country. The second destruction of European Christianitas (also known as the Reformation) came from Germany, so I really can't understand how can you somehow connect Catholic countries with Germany - those are two completely different civilisations.


What all the Slavs should do is...

1. abandon their heresies (Belarus, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, Czarnogóra) and accept Catholicism
2. return to Christianity again (Czechia)
3. take Polish deep and true Catholicism as their rolemodel (Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia)

...when that happens, they can all unite under Poland's auspices (as you know Poland is the true mother of Slavia) and prosper.

You may wonder why I didn't include Russia in future Slavia. I did it for historic reasons: throughout the centuries they mixed too much with Mongols and Khazars, and as a result lost their true Slavicity. Also, they show much too aggression towards other Slavic states (Poland, Ukraine), to be seriously considered as a true member of Slavia.

YOU want? But what is Poland`s influence on NATO? What you know what NATO want? Some magnates behind NATO? How can Poland even think to start forming its own stance on Russia?


I don`t think missiles there are because of Poland. I really don`t think that.


but I agree with you. It can`t be because of Poland. Its not because of Wojsko Polskie. It maybe looks like this too you because NATO encircled Russia and Russia responding to NATO and Poland is part of NATO.


That`s what I also says. We need them to hold balance, if nothing else. Without them, I am aware of it, balance could be destroyed and countries like Poland, Serbia, etc, really won`t be left alone in peace from western Europe. We both know it. I don`t say that Russia protecting us. Same way, I say that Russians do have interest that Poland, Serbia, etc Slavic countries exist, if for nothing else, then for Russian selfish interests. So, we exist in that balance.


If balance exist. In prospect of having balance, one day, at least.

That is why Pilsudski suggested Intermarium. Or call it new Commonwealth. We need it to be truly independent, to create our own balance. To hope to be able to create it.


I know that Poland paid terrible price. How many times more Poland can pay that price, before Poles are no more in Poland?


I know what you mean. Well oiled machine. But why confront neo-pagan elements? We Slavs have diverse heritage. Why not pre-Christian elements within Christianity, as we Serbs have. Sure, Vatican and Constantinople don`t like it but, who care. We Serbs like it.


Man, I don`t think that they target Poland more then they target Serbia.


For all we know Vatican was most probably involved in spreading communism in Russia and in formation of Cominterna.


Cooperated or were destroyed by communists? In my country we sow that Orthodox Churches were destroyed, while Catholic were spared. Clergy killed simple because was clergy, by communists, was Orthodox clergy.


In Jagilonian times, Polish Kings wanted as much as possible Serbian `gusle` players in every possible public and state institution. Jagilonians didn`t care are those gusle players Catholic. No. They wanted them to be /citation/> ``to be voice of ancestors``.

@Torq

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Amfilohije Metropolitan of the Serbian Orthodox Church in Montenegro - Protestants and Roman-Catholics are falling apart!

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Serbian Orthodox Church Metropolitan of Montenegro Amfilohije condemns Homosexuality

You see I hate to break it to you ..hmm you see, Russia doesn't want to have normal relations with Poland. You need two to tango while Russia prefer to dance a Gangnam style all on its own.


Must you be so extreme? Nobody wants Russia to cease to exist. It would be nice if they would stop acting up and if they are restored to their original borders it wouldn't be a bad thing either. For the humanity that is.


You're a moron or a sad individual that doesn't understand anything. That would never happen.

Crow, that sentence is so simple. so true and so brilliant. Good job, man.

Yeah sure, Russia is always defending itself. Are you Serbian or Russian? I get it why you put your hope on Russia but don't overdue it key>?

Yes, it is and close to Russia. Like next door.
Unlike the US which defends itself 7000 miles away. How many deaths did Russia cause since WW2?

Who the fact cares? If they don' like it they can always s give back all the stolen territory and bugger off where they came from.


A million? more? Do you even know or do you assume things?

Russia does. Just try to imagine the panic in the DC if Monday morning they found out that Mexico is now in a military alliance with Russia and Russia has its army just south of the border. That's Poland and the Baltics vs Russia today.


Like the whites giving back the territory aka the USA back to the natives? How about Puerto Rico and Gitmo? How far back should we go in our moral outrage and indignation?

Since there was never any written "deal", so to speak, between the Native Americans and the Settlers,
the entire question of legal fairness becomes moot, forever shrouded in mystery, I'm afraid.

I am Serbian. And I am sad that we Serbs and you Poles acted in Ukraine against Russia. You Poles f****d Russians there because you feared Vatican (it was Papal mission against Orthodox Russians and Poland had to obey to Pope) and we Serbs f****d Russians there because we honored our alliance with Poles, that in turn did gave us decisive support against Ottoman Turks. And we wounded Russians deeply there. And what if Russia collapsed due to that wound? Neither Poles, neither Serbs would exist now. I mean, let`s face it. Germans and Turks would have border across Hungary.


Kiev is where Russians were born as sedentary people that acquired its statehood. That with Ukraine is tragedy. Ukrainians aren`t separate nation just because they have state now. I hope 1/4 of Ukraine, goes to Poland and 3/4 to Russia. Most western most region of Ukraine should be Poland.

Let Russians heal and let are Poles satisfied. Frankly, that brawl between Poles and Russian in Ukraine existed even before Rome was formed. Popes just added to it but now should be over.


Sure, protestant country loved by Vatican traditionally more then is Poland loved by Vatican. So much of Vatican`s honesty.

In connection to tragedy with Ukraine, you Poles should stop making problems to Russians there, take what goes to you and start to look on western side. There, eastern Germany awaits you, soon when Germany start to crumble. All except Lusatia belong to Poland. I mean, western Germany and France, too, but that must wait. Go, spread, you won`t be alone in your endeavor.


Move Pope to live in Poland, let Pope show some respect on Svetovid and I`ll think of it.

Settlers ... A nice word for an invasion - legal or otherwise.
A guy who would attempt to "settle" in my house would get a bullet. No, I don't mean as a gift. That is what the Natives should have done from settler one.

What I know legal documents were signed between USA governments and natives but, those deals were regularly ignored by governments and wild west settlers.

BDW, Spain, France and Britain also had their role in extermination of native Americans. They should be sued for that and all should pay reparations.

Or fu*ck off of Russia as that terrible aggressor.
It's funny how my time frame from 1945 till today we so totally unacceptable to show how peaceful the USSR and Russia were in that period, but excluding the Western whites' crimes from the past is just fine; old stuff - nothing to see here.

Your analogy sucks. Poland's only border with Russian with a small enclave of so called Russian territory (since 1945). The real border is about 1000 miles always away from Poland. Russian have Polish complexes and so forth.


No, that analogy sucks as well. Anyways if they don't like it they can suck on it. Why that is you problem?

Why?
The people who did that have no connection to the people living in those countries now.
If anyone were to pay it would have to be the Americans.... But again, Americans today are not guilty of the sins of their distant ancestors.

Unlike Serb sins committed by Serbs still living....

To speak so about Serbs is blasphemous. Fact that you are destroyed by anti-Serbian war propaganda doesn`t negate fact that you actually insulting all Serbs that were killed in enormous genocide committed on them.

It is equal to be blind on genocide committed on Jews and at the same time seek to find some Jewish crime committed against attackers in self defense.

So much nonsense in this thread, I don't even know where to start.


That's a very bad analogy, Rich. The US doesn't "have its army" at Russia's border. The US forces in Poland are tiny (purely symbolic), as opposed to the mass of troops that Russia keeps in Kaliningrad, and not nearly enough to think about any sort of "invasion". So, NO - the poor Russia is not "just defending itself"; the poor Russia is annoyed, because they know that with American military presence (even a symbolic presence) in a given NATO country, they wouldn't be able to just invade it, like they did to Georgia or Ukrainie (to name just a couple of recent invasions).


Well, Crow, your brilliant thought processes aside, the 9M729 (SSC-8 in NATO code) missiles' maximum range is 500km, so that tells us exactly which countries are their targets.


What? Countries around Russia willingly applied for NATO membership precisely because they wanted protection from our "dear mother Russia". Don't you ever wonder why all those countries prefer to be NATO members and/or have American bases on their territory, rather than Russian bases? Russia encircled itself with enemies by their aggressive actions and idiotic policies in the past. Simple as that.


Why? BECAUSE Our Lord Jesus Christ did not die on the cross, naked, suffering shame, for us today to turn back into tree worshippers or rain dancers! WTF is wrong with you???


Oh, yeah? Not in Poland, they're not! You better tell your heresiarch to worry about his own backyard - how many Serbs attend Orthodox masses? 6%?

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We don't want Ukrainian territory - Ukrainians have their independence, and we will not stab them in the back (even if they annoy us with their UPA cult sometimes).

Russia's neo-imperialism is doomed to failure: their demographics are horrible, they are basically dying out (apart from Muslims - they are the only religious minority in Russia that is actually growing in number), HIV prevalence rate in Russia is on a black African level, and the number of divorces, abortions and homeless children is shocking (and to think that they try to present themselves as defenders of Christian values from the "rotten" West LOL). USA is the only global superpower, China is constantly growing in strength, Poland is becoming regional leader for V4 and the Baltics which makes Central Europe ever less likely to become Russian influence zone ever again etc. etc.

So what does Russia do in this situation? They do what they always did best - they invade (Georgia, Ukraine), bully (Poland, the Baltics), and spread lies (like recently with the use of this Kantor, oligarch Jew). They are simply not able to do anything else, that's their modus operandi. They think they are an empire, whilst in reality they are a dying out, HIV-infested country with GDP lower than Italy's, and rapidly growing Muslim population. They need someone like Poland to remind them about it - we provide much needed reality check for our Russian Slavic brothers (I hope they are grateful).

Ask them then. You should nicely ask. You wait Germany to allow you? Or Vatican? They aren`t Poles (those who aren`t Poles) but are kin. Plus, Poland was historically involved in the region and some there would gladly join with Poland. Now take care of your responsibility.

Let all be peaceful process.

Russians should work the same way to regain Kiev and rest.

This is so brilliant, commonsensical and to-the-point that I can't help but to post it again...

Russia's neo-imperialism is doomed to failure: their demographics are horrible, they are basically dying out (apart from Muslims - they are the only religious minority in Russia that is actually growing in number), HIV prevalence rate in Russia is on a black African level, and the number of divorces, abortions and homeless children is shocking (and to think that they try to present themselves as defenders of Christian values from the "rotten" West LOL). USA is the only global superpower, China is constantly growing in strength, Poland is becoming regional leader for V4 and the Baltics which makes Central Europe ever less likely to become Russian influence zone ever again etc. etc.

So what does Russia do in this situation? They do what they always did best - they invade (Georgia, Ukraine), bully (Poland, the Baltics), and spread lies (like recently with the use of this Kantor, oligarch Jew). They are simply not able to do anything else, that's their modus operandi. They think they are an empire, whilst in reality they are a dying out, HIV-infested country with GDP lower than Italy's, and rapidly growing Muslim population. They need someone like Poland to remind them about it - we provide much needed reality check for our Russian Slavic brothers (I hope they are grateful).

... *gives himself a pat on the back*

Alright, you got my attention. And what Poland doing to ready itself to time when Russia collapse? What Serbia doing? When Russia collapse its Poles and Serbs against... against GREAT SH**.



I will take sh** umbrella. I can do that.

We are preparing huge supply of popcorn.

Because to see Russia collapse we don't have to do anything. Just sit back with a pack of popcorn, relax, and watch.

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Ask Poles in Poland. They know that Poland don`t have friends within NATO. They know, Poland is on menu.