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Joker
5 Aug 2020  #1,831

Chinese versions are cheaper. Missiles are cheaper, too.

Too bad Serbs didnt spend their money more wisely instead of wasting it all on weapons. Your infrastructure still needs repair from the 1990s and ppl still need the basic necessities to get by. What a waste of money, you couldn't win a war against yourselves, nor less any other country.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,832

Merged:

Only possible path for Poland and Visegrad is path with Serbia - All other is a lie



This is theme in itself and we have to talk publicly. I hope, we all understand this.

At a time when masks falling down in a whole world, it becoming obvious that if wants to preserve their soul and spirit, their values, their morale, their Geo-strategic positions, their independence, their sovereignty, their perspective and future, Poland and countries of entire Visegrad group must rely on closer ties with Serbia and finally unite with Serbia in one bigger conglomerate such could be New Commonwealth or Central European Union.

All other suggestions for the future of Poland and Visegrad are lie and manipulation. Only with Serbia, Poland is Poland. Discussion here would show many more arguments that confirms this simple truth.

Wincig
5 Aug 2020  #1,833

@Crow
Here we go again!

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,834

Without truth, lie continues.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,835

Serbian missile shield, organized as combined anti-air defense network

General info >
When defend territory system seek to use adequate radar and weaponry. In the first place, it means that system use cheapest (!) possible rockets and high caliber bullets (and every individual SAM have at its disposal high and low expensive weaponry), what depending on which kind of threat attacking territory- warplanes, bombers, missiles, or drones. Then, there are mobile and fixed SAM systems. Bigger the threat (which depending on technical performances and how close is to the air defense shield), more expensive weaponry. When the mobile radar detects target (it is in many cases then itself detected) tend to move on other location, as soon as possible.

The backbone of the system is mobile Russian S-400 Triumph >

* Range for anti-aircraft missiles 40-400 km, Altitude anti-aircraft missiles 30 km

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Chinese Fk-3 mobile SAM, the Chinese version of combined characteristics of Russian S-300 and USA Patriot system >

* Range for anti-aircraft missiles 100 km, Altitude anti-aircraft missiles 50 m to 27 km

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S-400 and Fk-3 in itself are directly protected by mobile Russian Pantsir S-1 m >

* Range for anti-aircraft rockets 20 km, Altitude for anti-aircraft rockets 15 km
* Range for anti-aircraft cannons 4 km, Altitude for anti-aircraft cannons 3 km

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Mobile SAM 2K12 Kub >

* Range for anti-aircraft missiles 75 km, Altitude anti-aircraft missiles 100 to 7,000 m

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Fixed SAM S-125 Neva/Pechora >

* Range for anti-aircraft missiles 35 km, Altitude anti-aircraft missiles 18 km

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dolnoslask
5 Aug 2020  #1,836

Serbian missile shield

Won't work against the test drone tech, can it really hit a swarm of 20000 drones ? what about a second wave of 100,0000.

Each drone is stand alone using the latest AI technology to complete its mission , with primary and multiple secondary targets , you certainly would have no ground radar within a few minutes of the drone release.

ground to air missiles and conventional manned fighters are done kaput no more , blame elon musk.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,837

Won't work against the test drone tech, can it really hit a swarm of 20000 drones ? what about a second wave of 100,0000.

No country is safe when facing this.

But then one responds in a same way on the enemy. It is like when somebody hit you with the nuke and you nuke him. Russians for example moved behind this. They declared if they are threatened with annihilation (or high loses) from any kind of weapon/attack they immidiately retaliate with nukes.

What a waste of money, you couldn't win a war against yourselves, nor less any other country.

Only thanks to a good economy we even managed to buy good weaponry. Nothing without a good economy. The Serbian economy is among the best economies in the world. On every step I look and move, I see great infrastructural projects, from roads, railways, highways, buildings, etc. Serbian currency is secund most desirable and safest currency in the world. Serbia is the top world investment destination.

These are data of World Bank and Eurostat.

dolnoslask
5 Aug 2020  #1,838

we even managed to buy good weaponry.

No you bought stuff that doesn't work against a modern army using state of the art technology, basically you now have a knife to protect yourself in a gunfight.

Given it might help against some of your neighbours , just don't kick off against Nato again.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,839

We didn`t attack NATO. NATO kicked us. And we were alone. Now we aren`t alone. Even official Poland helping.

dolnoslask
5 Aug 2020  #1,840

Poland helping.

Poland can't help against this modern tech.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,841

Poland and Hungary gave Serbia permission to use Poland`s and Hungarian airspace whenever Serbia import weaponry from Russia. Any weaponry. Flight with weaponry only needs to be announced from Serbia and not from Russia. Then Poland doesn`t ask, don't check. Poland wouldn't do this for anybody else. This kind of help from Poland is now more than enough.

dolnoslask
5 Aug 2020  #1,842

Serbia import weaponry from Russia

You mean you bought a pile of obsolescent junk , The Ruskies are working on nuclear powered hyper velocity weapons in an attempt to hit back , (America as the primary target) they know that they have no chance against Americas secret (ish) hi tech strike weaponry.

These new toys are deployed from pods launched by nuclear subs , hundreds of thousand's of them.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,843

We have money and we buy what we buy. Maybe we buy even nuclear-propelled nuclear weaponry. I am all for that. If we have it, I think foe would think twice before trying another genocide on Serbs.

dolnoslask
5 Aug 2020  #1,844

money and we buy what we buy.

Well stop buying rubbish that would only work against third world countries.

Start your own development , thats the way to go.

Crow
5 Aug 2020  #1,845

We have our bombers, armored vehicles, tanks, howitzers, mobile howitzers, guns, etc. Of foreign things we have mostly Russian, French and now Chinese. We now wants also USA bombers, Red Hawks. 20 pcs. Maybe Trump sell us.

Wincig
6 Aug 2020  #1,846

Maybe Trump sell us.

one doesn't put dangerous weapons in the hand of children

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,847

Earlier US Presidents armed Nazi ustashe and mujaheedines here in the region, even transported them and coordinated with them. I am sure venerable Trump is different. He would surely like children to be safe.

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,848

He would surely like children to be safe

Children are never safe when in the vicinity of armed Serbs..........

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53346759

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,849

Forget it Milo. We are here on forum. People here don`t seek media propaganda but real info. Real info is that Popes walk with Nazis and recently with mujaheedines. Not that are Patriarchs of Constantinople far from Popes.

That is our reality. And yes, western Europe and some USA magnates. They are all in it.

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,850

People here don`t seek media propaganda but real info

It is you that cannot bear to face the truth.
Mladic was convicted and Serbia apologised.

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,851

Oh, but of course.

Did you sow some Pope or Cardinal convicted in tribunal for genocide on Serbs? Some President of some western European country, convicted for genocide on Serbs?

Ah, good that we have those courts.

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,852

Did you sow some Pope or Cardinal convicted in tribunal for genocide on Serbs?

No.
Because it never happened.
You are all smoke and mirrors.......

good that we have those courts.

Damn right, so we can bring genocidal Serbs to justice.

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,853

No.
Because it never happened.

It did happen. Why do you insult me Milo? Did I ever said banderists didn`t commit genocide on Poles? They did. Now, see, here in the region, Vatican preferred Nazis and pro-Germanic factor, Croat ustashe and pushed them in genocide on Serbs. Oh, but wait, you already know from history that Vatican preferred Germanics over Poles, too. Isn`t it? Yes, you are aware of it, even you aren`t that blind, Vatican love Germanics and hate Slavs.

It simple isn`t enough you are Catholic to be loved by Vatican. You must cease to exist as Slavic to be loved. Its the sick love but, well, its some love. Especially if you seek for love at all costs. If you love, to be loved.

>>> Sons of Herod (genocide in independent state of Croatia WWII) >>> youtube.com/watch?v=5r1JNnFjgag

Damn right, so we can bring genocidal Serbs to justice.

Genocide happened on Serbs. Let us not reverse the facts.

We need better courts. Face that fact.

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,854

Why do you insult me Milo?

On the contrary, you are insulting me by talking about WW2 when I am talking about The Yugoslav War.

Just google "Massacres in The Yugoslav War" and count how many people were massacred (By different sides)
then count how many of those massacres were commited by Serbs........... most of them.

Case dismissed.

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,855

Case will be dismissed when injustice is corrected. The Yugoslav War was Civil War initiated from outside of state. Meaning, Germany, Vatican, Islamic league and western Europe supported by US Bill, Clinton played on internal antagonisms and destroyed Yugoslavia. War was needed so genocide on Serbs can be continued.

Serbia is only multi-ethnic state in the region. And look what happened in Croatia for example. Serbs were constitutional people in Croatia and their status as such was canceled and more then 600.000 of them expelled during Civil War in former Yugoslavia. It is just continuation of genocides started in WWII (where more then 800.000 of Serbs was killed in genocide), where ustashe supported by Vatican created ideology 1/3 Serbs to be exterminated, 1/3 of Orthodox to be converted to Catholicism, 1/3 to be expelled.

If this didn`t happen in Croatia, you would today have equal number of Orthodox and Catholic Serbs. But you now don`t have Orthodox Serbs and instead of Catholic Serbs you have Catholic pro-Germanic Croats.

Not to ask in a wonder, why NATO transported worse Arab mujaheeines into Bosnia? Let me tell you. So mujaheedines commit genocide on Serbs. Similar was on Kosovo where NATO again supported genocide on Serbs. It was again continuance of WWII events.

Milo, brate, don`t worry, injustice will be corrected. We correct it so good, we liberate even Poland. All agreed with brat Corey Lewandowski during the dinner in Belgrade with top Serbia`s magnates >

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Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,856

It was again continuance of WWII events.

Really? After over 40 years?? You are drowning in your attempts to justify Serb atrocities...........

Just google "Massacres in The Yugoslav War" and count how many people were massacred (By different sides)
then count how many of those massacres were commited by Serbs........... most of them.

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,857

We need new courts, Milo. We need Popes, Cardinals, leaders of Islamic league, western Europe, US Bill Clinton, etc convicted. We need extremists and criminal masterminds in jail.

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,858

We need extremists and criminal masterminds in jail.

Mladic is already in jail and will die there.
He is an extremist criminal but not a mastermind.
In fact his actions were idiotic and turned the world against Serbia.

Crow
6 Aug 2020  #1,859

Mladic reacted on genicide commited on Serbs in Srebrenica. You know norhong of it is not my problem.

But listen Milo, pray that Serbs win, to get rid world of papal yoke. And of Constantinople yoke, too. That we stood brawely in the face of western European and Islamic league assault. Pray Milo, because Poland and Poles cant save themselves, of that evil grip. But, at least, official Poland giving signal. I cried of warm emotions when TV reporter said that Poland don't ask what armament Serbia transport via Poland's airspace from Russia as long as Serbia announce flights from Russia. Poland trust Serbia and I am, we Serbs are depply moved by that. Foe hold Poland but Poland is alive and gave them middle finger.

Racowie will win this War. We do it for all our children. New courts for true criminals. For Slavic lives matter, too!

Miloslaw
6 Aug 2020  #1,860

Mladic reacted on genicide commited on Serbs in Srebrenica

I have never heard of a massacre of Serbs in Srebenica.

And even if it were true, which I doubt, do you not think Mladic somewhat over reacted??

Mladic should have taken them as prisoners of war but his troops could not cope with the logistics of that.
So as he was not prepared to release them he murdered them instead.


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