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USA News and Poland - Part 1



cms neuf
7 May 2019  #331

You should not be comparing Russia now to Russia in the 90s. Rather compare Russia now to Poland, Czech, Hungary - all richer with better health, better prospects, more secure and all done without sitting on huge oil fields and nickel deposits. Why ? democracy, the free market, EU membership, rule of law.

Despite your doom mongering there have been many meaningful elections in the west since the end of the cold war. Just some examples - the US house elections in the mid 90s, the Uk general election in 97, Brexit, Trumps election, the German election in 2004 and of course the Polish elections of 2007 when Lepper and Giertych and the other loonies were sent packing. Might not be to my taste but the 2015 elections in Poland also profoundly changed the country.

It is in Russian interests to say that democracy does not matter. If that were the case then democracies would not be consistently richer and more peaceful than dictatorships.

Rich Mazur
7 May 2019  #332

That's what you get when your courts rule "...that corporate political spending is protected,

OK, if the Republicans tripled their ad money, would you vote for them or Trump?
No essays before the answer, please.

delphiandomine
7 May 2019  #333

That's what you get when your courts rule "..."

Insanity. Yet if you ask both Democrat and Republican voters, both of them will tell you that the other side is benefiting from such spending and that it should be banned. Therefore, it should be easy to agree on a ban, right? ;)

Rich Mazur
7 May 2019  #334

You are all full of it because you would never vote for Trump even if he spends 1000000000 per voter. Term limits is the only solution.

Joker
7 May 2019  #335

Doesn't matter who the candidates are, they're all at it.

So, says an internet troll from Scotland that has never set foot in America. I see you have been posting stories about America all day here, are you obsessed with us?

the problem is absolutely unbelievable.

True, its hard to stop the Democrats from cheating, not that its any of your business. Didn't you tell us to stay out of your Eurotard affairs last month??

In "America", you can be President without an ID!

True, and we got the worst President in the history of America! The Dems arent going to win in 2020 either:)

Biden is a total joke and hes the best clown the Dems have got! LOLOL

TRUMP 2020!!

bolek_tusk
7 May 2019  #336

Do you even bother to do basic fact checking?

Mark Malloch-Brown owns Smartmatic. He is board member of George Soros' Open Society Foundation

opensocietyfoundations.org/about/boards/open-society-global-board

Obviously no connection at all with George Soros - one of the Clinton's biggest benefactors.

How naive do you need to be to think that Soros won't have a hand in programming these machines to get the required result?

Velund
7 May 2019  #337

Why ? democracy, the free market, EU membership, rule of law.

Billions of Euro in dotations, incomparable expenses to infrastructure, and (suddenly) warmer climate as well...

BTW, free market does not mean that you will be able to purchase anything you need. So, Russia forced to domestically manufacture a lot of items that is more economically manufactured in another parts of the world. But this items was used for blackmailing in the past, just like composite materials that heavily delayed manufacture of passenger planes for Iran. So, billions is invested to start domestic manufacture of critical supplies and avoid further blackmailing and possible sabotage.

Poland and Russia plays in different leagues, and Russia will always have a lot more expenses for security and infrastructure (especially in Arctic zone). Imagine -55 deg. C in Warsaw.

And about rule of law and EU membership - I see that Poland is not happy by pretty legal decision about refugee quotes, issued by Brussels.

I will not enter into discussion about democracy, just will say one more time that last cases of real democracy was in ancient Greek cities, where you must be free local from good family and be able to show your weapons and ammunition that will be used to protect your state to have right to vote.

bolek_tusk
7 May 2019  #338

US elections are all about big money coming from big donors and corporations.

Trump's biggest donor was himself and he only raised half as much as Clinton who had $1.2Bn invested in her. No wonder her investors are so mad with her.

And God only knows how much 'dirty money' from the Clinton Foundation ended up financing her feeble effort to become President.

Velund
7 May 2019  #339

If that were the case then democracies would not be consistently richer and more peaceful than dictatorships.

Zimbabwe is a democracy. Without doubt. Rare sh*thole, and poor like hell.

South Africa is also a democracy. Not yet completely turned into sh*thole, but heading there pretty fast, according to things that told by my friends (white, of course) living there.

Ukraine... Democracy (a sort of - where 1% can come to Maidan and overthrow votes of remaining 99%). Hm...

Saudi Arabia. Dictature in a worst meaning of this word. Rich as hell. Can kill and dismember an opposition journalist directly at the embassy in the territory of the NATO country and remain at the same time in the best partnership with the "trend setter" for modern "democratic methods." ;)

Haiti. Democracy, of course. Not the right place to visit for anyone who care about their life.

United States. Very interesting example of "layered democracy", where plebs is legitimising decisions that made by a small group. Nominally very rich, but tere is some "nuances"... Started more wars than any other country in history.

And question to a gurus - Russia declared a major threat to NATO. While having military expenses about 10% of US military budget (not counting numerous other NATO countries). Is Russia simply hyper-efficient, or huge US military spendings is just a "washing machine" to steal taxpayers money?

cms neuf
7 May 2019  #340

Plenty of detailed evidence - try "why nations fail" - an exhaustive book on the subject

Or alternatively you invest 1000 bucks in 5 dictatorships, I will do in 5 democracies and we can see who comes out best over 1 year, 5 years, 10 years or any period you want

Second question - yes it is a huge washing machine, they should spend it on bridges and education

Rich Mazur
7 May 2019  #341

United States. Very interesting example of "layered democracy", where plebs is legitimising decisions that made by a small group.

Brilliant! This sentence and the rest of your post.
This is what I have been telling them here: you are just useful tools to legitimize this corrupt pile of crap.
My first and the last vote of any kind was in 1980. I saw how sausage is made and I was done being a tool forever.

Velund
7 May 2019  #342

invest 1000 bucks in 5 dictatorships, I will do in 5 democracies

I'm not a George Soros to invest that way. ;)

TheOther
7 May 2019  #343

OK, if the Republicans tripled their ad money, would you vote for them or Trump?

Ask the president and the GOP. Would you change this environmental law in my favor if I donate 50 million to your campaign?

we got the worst President in the history of America!

TRUMP 2020!!

See what wrong here?

Rich Mazur
8 May 2019  #344

Ask the president and the GOP.

I will after you answer the question I ALREADY asked. Which was: If the Republicans tripled their ad money, would you vote for them or Trump?

Yes or no will be fine.

Joker
8 May 2019  #345

Latest poll has Trumps approval rating at an all time high of 46% beating Barakk Obongo at the same time during his term at 43% approval

It doesnt look good for the Snowflakes agian:(

As Bill Clinton stated before his re-election....Its the economy stupid!

Trump has fired up the 4th Industrial revolution and this alone will propel him to victory, that along with the idiot Dems that are acting like fools and in complete disarray.

Im buying the popcorn:):)

TheOther
8 May 2019  #346

If the Republicans tripled their ad money, would you vote for them or Trump?

Are you playing stupid again? Campaign donations do not only flow during presidential elections. Take a safe red state like Alabama where the outcome of an election is already clear. If I wouldn't like a particular law in that state, I would simply donate to the governor and/or the Republican party. A few million bucks and you do me that little favor that will save me 100 million over the course of the next 10 years, alright?

Campaign donations are about corruption, not about corporate personhood and free speech. And no, after the performance the spineless Republicans delivered over the past two years no one in his or her right mind should vote for them ever again.

Trump has fired up the 4th Industrial revolution

With coal? Ha ha ha.

Rich Mazur
8 May 2019  #347

Are you playing stupid again?

I will answer this question after you answer the one I already asked.

Crow
8 May 2019  #348

South Africa ........ Not yet completely turned into sh*thole, but heading there pretty fast

Truth, truth. Pretty fast.

This is how decent Serbian businessman was killed in South Africa, in Bryanston, Johannesburg, month ago. Brat was initially very lucky when shooting started but then luck abandoned him.

WATCH: Bryanston hit captured on CCTV
youtube.com/watch?v=Ua6kBaFTno0

RiP

Miloslaw
8 May 2019  #349

This is how decent Serbian businessman was killed

That is a contradiction in terms.
"Decent" and "Serbian" cannot be used in the same sentence.

Velund
8 May 2019  #350

Looks like words "plastic pole" and "polite" also starting to burn paper if printed on same page.

TheOther
8 May 2019  #351

after you answer the one I already asked.

Campaign donations are not about increasing a candidate's chance to get elected. Campaign donations are about buying influence. Third time that I answer your question, and last time.

Rich Mazur
8 May 2019  #352

Get a refresher course in English and read my question again. FYI, my simple question can be answered only with: yes, no, I don't know.

351 above is an essay. I hate essays as a substitute.

TheOther
9 May 2019  #353

351 above is an essay.

Three short sentences? Poor baby. LOL!

Rich Mazur
9 May 2019  #354

So what is the answer to my question?

TheOther
9 May 2019  #355

42 ... :)

Rich Mazur
9 May 2019  #356

Are you OK?

TheOther
9 May 2019  #357

I thought you would get it, but obviously not. Let me help you:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything_(42)

(stupid formatting)

Your Yes/ No question was far too simplistic. I tried to explain that to you, but you chose to ignore it.

Rich Mazur
12 May 2019  #358

Your Yes/ No question was far too simplistic. I tried to explain that to you, but you chose to ignore it.

It was inconvenient because you knew immediately that the end was near. This is how I win forum debates - the other guy can't figure out a simple yes/no/I don't know question.

So let me help you: Hillary could spend the entire GNP to get herself elected and I would not vote for her. This means that I am not swayable by money and that is why I would never claim that money corrupts elections.

Velund
13 May 2019  #359

Truth, truth. Pretty fast.

And looks like South Africa now will speed up their moving to a direction of hellish sh*thole - by purely democratic means. They again re-elected ANC, and sometimes ANC candidates used openly racist (black racism I mean) words in their speeches.

I'm never impressed if some country is characterized as "democracy". 30 more years and France may vote for Sharia law and ending of further elections, if they will continue to run their "shaheed farm".

Rich Mazur
13 May 2019  #360

I'm never impressed if some country is characterized as "democracy".

The hardest thing when dealing with the "democracy" lovers is to make them accept that the Western-style "democracies" are run by the Western-style gangsters not materially different than the communist-style oppressive regimes. In fact, the latter were more honest and we had no doubt we were the slaves in that setup.

If the word "gangsters" seems too harsh, it's not. In some Italian 'hoods in the US, the more ordinary gangsters were selling protection, running businesses, had their form of government, would hear complaints, and were just as sensitive to the citizens' wishes as the gangsters ruling the UK or Sweden today, for example.

As somebody said: if elections really mattered, they would be illegal.


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