USA News and Poland - Part 1

I love the idea. Here is one way it can be implemented...

youtu.be/r-95P5OLlXE

As long as that does not mean that the US taxpayers are an ATM for the Western world I can go along with that baseless and false claim for a moment.

And speaking of baseless claims....... Hillary Clinton stated today the 2016 election was stolen from her! LOLOLOL

She ran out of people to blame, so now, it was stolen...too funny!

She lost the election and her dignity.

dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/hillary-clinton-election-stolen

I wonder if she will ever show the police report she filed after she realized it. Or are we going to wait like we did for that Obongo's birth certificate.

Actually the Muslim slave trade was far more prevalent, and even goes on to this day.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world

There are 3.5 million more registered voters than living adults...

investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-has-3-5-million-more-registered-voters-than-live-adults-a-red-flag-for-electoral-fraud/

Yes, I know more BS... all Fake News invented by Judicial Watch. Can't help wondering if PO go to the US to be schooled by the Dems on how to win elections...

You mean like how PiS went to the American Senate to beg them to interfere in our politics?

There is a simple rule in life I just made up: He who objects to locks is a thief.
Translation: Dems hate voter ID's because they make stealing elections harder.

America should just join the rest of the world and have identity cards. Simple.

Well, at least until the database gets sold repeatedly to American corporate interests.

You need an ID to do everything in America, except Vote. This is how the Dems cheat by sneaking in Illegals because they cant win fairly.

No! Man, are you wrong!

In "America", you can be President without an ID!

We just had one and nobody would dare say anything because he is "black" and, thus, a how-dare-you kind untouchable. Some states tried to, or did, pass a law demanding birth certificates BEFORE fact. Immediately, they were "racist".

I guess, one day, Obongo's daughters may want to run. Then, such laws would, indeed, be racist. And sexist.

That database has been self populated by Facebook users....

I guess you do not know that Facebook was a CIA invention created under the name of Lifelog a project which just happened to close on the exact day that Facebook was registered. All your details have been given away voluntarily to Facebook who then make money by selling your private information to anyone who wants to pay.

We don't have ID cards in the UK!

That is a fairly wacky site Bolek but if true the thing to do is to investigate those 482 counties - about 8 percent of the total counties.

Of course those counties will be concentrated in places with more mobile and younger populations - people might be registered in their apartment in SF or NY but also back in their Mom's place in Hicksville.

Either way a national ID card would do fix the problem.

Of course the decision to leave who could vote to individual states was taken by the founding fathers which is the origin of this mess. Their reason for doing so was that some states wanted to count slaves as population for purposes of number of seats in the house but not to allow slaves to vote. End result in this model democracy was that slaves counted for 60 percent of a free man.

Try voting in Northern Ireland without a form of identity.


Seems pretty simple. Then again, better to cry and whine about it online than to actually fix the problem, eh?

In the UK your name has to be on the Electoral Roll to be able to vote.

...or British identity. You are what garbage the third world dumps on you. Not that we are any better.
Seriously, why should anyone even bother to vote? When was the last time our ruling classes did what the voters wanted?

I know Putin doesn't like people voting and convinces them it's not worth it. Fact is that for all its weaknesses democracy is more successful in the long run than having a corrupt and grabbing oligarchy. Leads to more wealth, longer healthier lives, more inventions, more culture, less wars and less revolutions.

Of course I know China and Russia win a lot of Olympic events, normally ones the can fiddle but does not translate to team sports. Last dictatorship to win the World Cup I think Argentina in 78 (courtesy of some bribes and dreadful refereeing)

Bolek and I are arguing about 1-2 percent differences in a.200 million electorate. In Russia its 20 years since anybody had a meaningful vote. Think about that a bit in one of your long evenings of trolling.

I just did.

Name "a meaningful vote" in the UK, Germany or the US that made the life of the lower 80% meaningfully better.

Probably you have to live in Russia for last quarter of century to feel the difference between "infinitely democratic" 1990's and "almost totalitarian" 2010's... Vast majority of Russians will choose 2010's to live in. Except some brainwashed millenials and some old crooks, with nostalgia about funds that are nearly anywhere and wait to be stolen.

Too true!

Wrong. In Northern Ireland, you need to provide identity when voting. What you only say applies to Britain, not NI.

In the UK (and many other countries) there is no longer such a thing as a meaningful vote, since politicians are beholden to the same paymasters whoever wins. That's why Trump's victory against the odds when all the media/money was pushing Clinton was one of the most meaningful votes in the last half century. Even the day before the election some 'pundits' were giving Clinton a 91% chance of winning. How wrong they were! And we are about to find out whose pocket many of these so called 'journalists' who were pushing anti-Trump propaganda were.

So, you mean Trump didn't receive support from wealthy backers? Pleeease.

I stand corrected... but I assume you still need to have your name on the Electoral Roll...

Yup, a double lock if you will. Makes perfect sense, it avoids fraud and provides a degree of security for elections.

Some of the stuff going on in US elections is beyond belief, including voting machines that can't be analysed by the people that count the votes. There's a good article here about it - bbc.com/news/technology-45680490 - the problem is absolutely unbelievable.

The integrity of elections is important, and if there are widespread problems with voter identification and electoral rolls, then they should fix it. As long as the ID card is easily available (for instance, like in Poland, where you can get it at every town hall), there should be no problem with it.

Care to name any?

Trump used his own money to promote himself, as well as getting billions of dollars of free publicity from the mainstream media who dedicated thousands of hours to denigrating him.

Many of these voting machines were provided by George Soros - a well known Clinton benefactor.

newspunch.com/george-soros-owns-voting-machines/

You can be sure they were programmed to come up with the 'correct' result.

Sheldon Adelson - $5m - CEO of the largest US casino company.
Bernie Marcus - $7m - CEO of Home Depot
Robert Wood Johnson - $1m - owner of the New York Jets in the NFL
Robert Mercer - $15m - CEO of a hedge fund and billionaire
McMahon family - $6m - owners of a professional wrestling company WWE

And more.

opensecrets.org/news/2018/01/trump-donors-1-year-later/

All here. Let's not forget the money that groups like the NRA pumped into his campaign - all $30m of it.

US elections are all about big money coming from big donors and corporations. Doesn't matter who the candidates are, they're all at it.


Do you even bother to do basic fact checking?

businessinsider.com.pl/international/george-soros-is-the-subject-of-one-of-the-more-misguided-conspiracy-theories-of-the/pjmnysr

That's what you get when your courts rule "...that corporate political spending is protected, holding that corporations have a First Amendment right to free speech."