USA News and Poland - Part 1

Well...since the most widely accepted theory speaks of the first Americans being east-asian hunter and gatherer walking in by foot over the Bering Street around 35.000 years back it would be plausible that without the invention of ships there wouldn't exist a USA as we know it today.

Without imports the US as we know it today wouldn't exist either...rather sooner or later the unemployment would rise dramatically, many people would lose their jobs, everything imported would now need to produced in the country (with less quality if necessary), the prices would rise, many products would just not be available anymore etc., the country would resemble more and more some backwater poor house and loose everything which made it rich and famous.

But in one case you might be successful, a poor backwater country, falling behind economically and scientifically most probably led by an opressive dictatorship (because there is no other way a majority of the people will vote for a purposely done impoverishment), you will lose most of the glamour which makes you so attractive to foreigners.

People will rather now want to leave the US, you won't attract immigrants anymore...if you want that, that's the way.

Any country can became self-sufficient. But AT WHICH LEVEL?

Agricultural economy with prevalence of poor peasants in population structure - yes, almost any country can do it. Add basic industry to support agriculture (like tractors and other similar things) - and for example Lithuania will be unable to afford it. Poland - maybe yes. High-tech "leading edge" economy - I doubt that it will be affordable to "isolated" US without printing fiat dollars and importing best brains from over the world paying by this "banker promises". Even current not-so-perfect leadership is paid by huge debt and will be harder and harder to keep.

I doubt that if I'm honest.

Even the epitome of isolation politics, walled-in North Korea, trades with a few countries...it has to...

It is no coincidence that those countries who trade the most are much wealthier and better off than those countries who try/have to be autark.

But North Korea is far above "poor peasants only" level. Why else there is so much PITA in Pentagon about this country?

At the level that is consistent with the resources and the tribe's ingenuity how to use them. That is why Eskimos did not live in 5000 square foot mansions with swimming pools and didn't have six-lane expressways.

One thing that not subject to any discussion is this simple rule: permanent deficits are unsustainable. Nobody - not a person, family, corporation, state, or a country - can run on deficits forever. Period. End of the story so don't even bother arguing that point. Neither can the US.

That is why we call it "trade", as in "foreign trade", not shopping, as in "foreign shopping". "Trade" means exchanging an exportable product A for an importable product B until one side runs out of its products. Cash is not a product but merely a legal document that exists for convenience. Neither is land, buildings or anything that cannot be replenished.

The American ruling class pretends that those non-debatable rules don't exist and will happily continue hollowing the nation out until the day of reckoning, which, when it comes, the ruling gangsters will be safe in their safe places, with all the consequence left for the "consumers", who"didn't want to pay more" for the domestic products, to suffer.

So, unless your post starts with "I know how to run deficits forever", don't bother because I will not read it.

Do you think that there will be places that is safe enough for so called "elite"?

As far as I know it is mainly the poor peasants who are forbidden to enjoy trade...they starve and get killed when caught wanting to better their lives.

The political class on the other hand is enjoying traded comforts without any shame. They are leaches...

I know how to run deficits forever.

You have to split potential opponent countries to a small pieces and get overwhelming military superiority over any of that pieces. Then you can plunder whole world and keep living standard in a few countries high enough for a world elite to be comfortable with neighborhood.

There was such attempt, but it was failed.

Frankly the US can run a deficit forever....

It's the Dollar...as long the US keeps the leading economical position and the Dollar is the main trade currency her deficits don't matter much. It's other countries like....say....Greece with their paper currency who have alot more difficulties running into debts.

But Trumps policies will do nothing against the state deficit....rising defense costs heightens the deficit...so does cutting taxes (less money into the state purse) heightens the deficit...

An interesting summary what the US deficit is actually made off and why it's different to any other country's deficit:

thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783

Frankly, I knew that reading your post would be a waste of time. It was. MY ENTIRE damn post was about FOREIGN TRADE DEFICIT!!!

I doubt that. In more and more cases, USD was used as a tool to extend US jurisdiction to places, where their judges is not welcome. So, USD slowly becoming "toxic asset" and will be replaced with other currencies by anyone who wish to trade based on local laws.

This will be a disaster for a US taxpayers, of course.

I wonder what would happen with the U.S.D. if Russia ever decided to turn off the gas valve to Germany.

You doubt it? How about: no f***ing way!
Ask BB if he can. He will tell you that he could if he could print money. Just watch.

The Euro was once seen as a rival...so was the chinese Yuan...both haven't made it (till now that is).


Putin can say good bye to his power.

There is nothing worse for one economy as seen as not reliable, as doing not part of your deal..you won't make another deal, that's what will happen. Cutting off the gas to Germany would hurt him in the end much more. He will lose alot of customers.

Where will that leave a country depending on selling its natural resources?

There is a reason Russia never did this, not even at the heights of the cold war!

Hey, I just trying to be polite... ;)

Polite is for dating and losers.

It is, and it's a big problem for the US. If the Saudis ever turned round and said that they want payment in Euro, the US would be in huge trouble.

I already suspected, that such word as "diplomat" is forgotten in US.

The sooner, the better. Like with any addict careening toward the financial bottom, yelling that he wants another aircraft carrier to be even better as the world's dumbest cop.

Just like the word "queen" or "king".
Diplomacy - an art of converting "no f***king way" into an hour-long flowery speech, sprinkled with perfunctory smiles and dishonest toasts.

That's what Trump and Xi did earlier this year in Florida. Or was it last?

After they pay us the $109 Billion they owe us...lol


In your dreams, what a stupid troll comment anyhow, your hatred for America consumes your daily thoughts, don't it?

This is your only reason to be on this thread, to troll and bait and then snitch to the mod...waaaaaa

You and the rest of us have noticed that too.
If the U.S. goes down, everybody goes down and they know it.

Motivation aside, some of their comments are valid.


The US does not need to go down for everybody else to go down.

In fact, the opposite would be true. If the US stopped importing - and I mean like 99% - they would come down crashing while the US would be king with zero trade deficit and no one-sided, fake, military mutual - mutual my ass - defense treaties.

It is also the art of converting nuclear explosion "mushrooms" over Washington, Beijing and Moscow to something more friendly.

@Velund
I see in your profile that you are in Moscow. Can you tell us more about your political profile and other personal facts in RANDOM the way Weimarer did?

Don't know what Weimarer did, so need to be pointed to some example. Or simply questions to answer. ;)

Weimarer came here with an agenda he spelled out load and clear so we know where he is on the political spectrum. Which, btw, I agreed with 100%.

Were you born in Russia? How did you learn English? What made you come here? I am just curious since we don't have many posters in Russia, I think.

Not trying to get into your personal life beyond what you feel like revealing. If you already did, I must have overlooked it.

You joined in 2010 and you have only 339 posts?

How do Russians take all these sanctions in their daily lives?

Ok.

Born in Moscow, finished school and university in Moscow, worked for numerous local businesses. At some moment my work started to require short business trips to a variety of places (it was related to marine electronics that time), so visited a lot of places in Europe and Far East (Asia).

Learned english by self-education only (French was my second language in school and university, but turned out to be almost useless). My spoken English is really HORRIBLE, but usually I was able to communicate with those who need to communicate with me. ;)

Come here in a day of Smolensk disaster, as this forum was the first found place where I was able to express my condolences to Poles.

Concerning 339 posts in 9 years - looks like it was enough to say all that I feel right to say at the moment. ;) Sapienti sat. ;)

What to politics - my beliefs is drifted from (dumb) enthusiasm about western-style democracy in 1980's, and through very active participation in Aug'91 events (including attending at barricades on the night of the alleged assault of the White House). What I seen later started to shift my political beliefs. Now I believe that the the best revolutionary is the dead revolutionary, and while there is a lots of different wrong ways for any country, the worst one is the one proposed by Soros funded traitors.

I voted for Putin last time, not because I love them, but the rest was just stupid clowns, and I seen a lot of them in power in my life. And (bonus), I think that our best friend George have a bad day once he see faces of people that was too expensive for them in the news. ;)

About sanctions - we take it easy. A bit of regrets about the loss of profits, but the development of domestic production is evident, and each time there is less and less concern about this mouse scuffling around the pond.

I really appreciate your response. Without going into its details, I see that, my crude manners aside, we have no points of disagreements.
If I could legally cause Soros to die, I would do it right now. Unfortunately, I hear that he spawned some Soros bastards who are just as bad, but I could be wrong.

With Putin as your preference, you, Dirk and I are on the same page. I often watch his speeches, like during the Victory Parade on May 9, have no clue what he is saying but still like watching an alpha male who is clearly in charge. I don't know if you realize that in the US Putin scored higher on the respect scale than Obama , which a very low bar but still amazing. If you google Obama vs Putin, you will get a lot of hits that don't look good for Obama. I guess writing this makes me s traitor.

My disappointment is that the relations between Russia and the US are not as good as they could be. That moronic Mueller investigation put Trump on the spot so his hand was forced. Poles will always have beef against the USSR and Russia so that seems like a lost cause. In my opinion, not inviting Russia to commemorate was a very bad move. That opinion will not make me very popular here, but I don't care.

Last question for now: do you have any details and opinions about the referendum in Crimea that you could share here? FYI, my minority opinion is that it was a brilliant move to make Crimea part of the Russian Federation considering NATO's never ending drift toward Russia.