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cms neuf
21 May 2019  #451

Of course the fact that he pays you does not affect your opinion of him ?

Not to mention his superhuman feats - wrestling bears, flying fighter jets and scoring a double hatrick in a hockey game - what's not to love ?

Velund
21 May 2019  #452

Of course the fact that he pays you does not affect your opinion of him ?

I pay the taxes, that's all my financial relationship with government. If I missed something and can get more income - let me know. Offers to participate in any NGO is declined at once.

about the referendum in Crimea

Have no time right now to take into details, but moving Crimea to Ukraine by Khruschev was more than questionable (in fact, against of USSR constitution that was active at the moment), and city of Sevastopol (separate entity) with navy base was never legally handed to Ukraine at all.

I can write some more details later.

cms neuf
21 May 2019  #453

Ask Rich and he will give you the low down on the attractive remuneration. He is already 177th on the list for getting a two stroke Lada and this summer at the sanatorium he has some special coupons so he can have dessert on a Friday and Saturday.

Rich Mazur
21 May 2019  #454

He is already 177th on the list for getting a two stroke Lada

I would love to get one of those convertible ZIM's they just retired. Spare parts could be a problem, though.
I have to hand it to you that you are creative and persistent. A rare combination for a one-string banjo. OK, two.

Rich Mazur
21 May 2019  #455

I am a bad Russian imposter. It's ZIL, not ZIM.

Rich Mazur
21 May 2019  #456

Trump is bad. Real bad. Because of his crazy ideas with tariffs, 9000 people who were happily rocking on their front porches were forced to go to work!

A quote from CNN, that unashamedly pro-Trump outlet:

The price spike early last year prompted steelmakers to increase output. Steel mills reopened, adding about 9,000 jobs to the industry. Existing mills also increased their output.

Out with him! Go, Joe, go!

TheOther
21 May 2019  #457

Wow, 9000 jobs created in a dirty, 19th century industry. How exciting. In the meantime, 2400 jobs will be cut at Ford and 4000 jobs at GM. Coal mines to the rescue...

Velund
21 May 2019  #458

Because of his crazy ideas with tariffs

Similar thing with Putin crazy "counter-sanctions" (fierely blamed by "progressive democratic opposition") and agricultural sector of Russia. ;)

Rich Mazur
21 May 2019  #459

Like I said, they were forced. You know, SWAT guys can be very persistent.

Joker
21 May 2019  #460

Out with him! Go, Joe, go!

Yay, bring back the stagnant days of yesteryear!

He's already a 3 time loser, perhaps the 4th time will be a charm...lol

Crooked Hillary can be his running mate. The Dems are only about identity politics and there MUST be a woman V.P otherwise the snowflakes wont vote, but hey, he's No Bernie! Haha

Im laughing at the lame Dumbocrats, this is the best they can come up with??Biden or is it Hasbeen, beaten so many times, had to grip onto Obamas coat tails to become VP and Obama won't endorse him either,Hahahaha, too funny, Good Luck!


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Velund
21 May 2019  #461

dirty, 19th century industry

Do your homework. Write down your "everyday life" monthly purchases and write estimated century of tech to the right of each entry in the list. Then publish results.

I think at least half will be pre-Christ time tech.

That is what really need, for life, and not to assure bankers estimated profits.

cms neuf
21 May 2019  #462

In Russia maybe. You guys still wear those shoes made from tree bark ?

In the West then aside from housing expenses the only pre Christ spending is food and drink.

Everything else - cigarettes, petrol, electric, phone, car, books, consumer goods, transport to work, underwear, etc is firmly from the Industrial Age.

Velund
21 May 2019  #463

shoes made from tree bark ?

Prefer leather. Same age.

Cigarettes - I was lucky to quit smoking after 30 yrs of feeding tobacco industry.

And if I'll put all my monthly purchases to same list, there is less than 20% really latest industrial age goods. maybe I purchase too many varieties of food and drinks to suit family taste? ;)

johnny reb
21 May 2019  #464

The Russians must get a kick out of Putin when he tests the U.S. airspace.
Today four Russian strategic bombers escorted by Russian fighter jets skirted the Alaskan coast line just outside of U.S. airspace.
I think Putin does this not only to see what the U.S. response time is to intercept but to show Trump that he can play the same games the U.S. plays with Russia.

The scary part is that one of these days a slight miscalculation could set off a major conflict between the two countries.
What do the Russian citizens think about such tactics ?

Joker
22 May 2019  #465

Do you really think they tell their citizens about their tactics, I don't.

Trump that he can play the same games the U.S. plays with Russia.

What about Iran?

You guys still wear those shoes made from tree bark ?

Have you ever seen the Mexican tire sandals? You can walk 50Kmiles before they wear out!


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TheOther
22 May 2019  #466

I think at least half will be pre-Christ time tech.

You missed the point. Steel production and coal mining are dirty, outdated industries. That's why they were outsourced to developing countries which can deliver for a fraction of the cost.

johnny reb
22 May 2019  #467

Steel production and coal mining are outdated industries.

You're nuts.
The steel workers and coal miners are elated that Trump is bringing their jobs back from China and Canada.
M.A.G.A.

delphiandomine
22 May 2019  #468

Steel production and coal mining are dirty, outdated industries.

An almost perfect metaphor for the US as a whole.

TheOther
22 May 2019  #469

steel workers and coal miners

Industries that poison our air, destroy our mountain tops and pollute our rivers represent the past of the USA, not the future. We are talking about lousy 200,000 jobs altogether (140,000 steel workers and 60,000 coal miners). Not worth destroying the land and the future of our children for that.

Velund
22 May 2019  #470

What do the Russian citizens think about such tactics ?

Can't speak for everyone, but most of my friends we discussed this with is sure that no hostile actions should be left unanswered. Symmetric or asymmetric responce - it's up to MoD experts.

Not worth destroying the land and the future of our children for that.

So, start teaching your children to live without products made of steel or coal. As nobody is obligated to destroy their land and future of their children to supply US with this.

johnny reb
22 May 2019  #471

He doesn't see it that way as he only looks as far as his self righteous nose.

TheOther
22 May 2019  #472

start teaching your children to live without products made of steel or coal

Would you mind using your head, please? Steel is imported at much lower prices than the US steel mills will ever be able to deliver. It's imported and then turned into other products. Coal is mostly used for energy production here. Dirty power plants that pollute hundreds of square miles around them, and the ashes kill our rivers and lakes. Why not use something more sophisticated like solar, wind or nuclear power?

As nobody is obligated to destroy their land and future of their children to supply US with this.

Of course not, but they all want to sell.

johnny reb
23 May 2019  #473

Why not use something more sophisticated like solar, wind or nuclear power?

We do that too.

and the ashes kill our rivers and lakes.

Do some research and see where the great majority of acid rain originates from that pollutes America.

they all want to sell.

So do we and the steel industry supports a lot of people in the U.S. from mining the ore, to shipping it, to processing it, to delivering it, manufacturing jobs that build the equipment to do this, all creating jobs and a huge tax base not to mentioning pumping up our own economy.

We have the natural resources to do all this and not to use them because of some tree huggers is just plain dumb.

TheOther
23 May 2019  #474

Do some research

nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/coal-other-dark-side-toxic-ash/

So do we

You want to sell regular steel and compete against second and third world countries? Good luck with that. Just watch what's going on in the UK at the moment, and you'll see the future of our steel industry.:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7057455/British-Steel-set-insolvency-process-today.html

johnny reb
23 May 2019  #475

compete against second and third world countries?

Tariff's !
M.A.G.A. !

Velund
23 May 2019  #476

Steel is imported at much lower prices than the US steel mills will ever be able to deliver.

Rare earths was also sold by China at prices nobody else was able to compete (and China have majority of all known resources). But once major competitors went bankrupt and equipment was sold out (so that fast restarting of production became very costly), China made logical move, and impose export tariff for unprocessed R.E. metals. You still can purchase finished products, though.

Steel is much simpler product, but once you have mass production of plain carbon (construction) steel, you can afford to relatively economically produce most other varieties that may be necessary by current tech. Once you do not have mass production, your special steel may come close to silver by its price to be produced locally, and there is no guarantees that you'll be able to buy it anywhere else in a reasonable time.

And yes, coal (mostly coke that is produced from coal) is absolutely necessary to produce steel.

Solar batteries is another way to move pollution to China - learn how much energy is necessary to produce solar grade silicon from ores. And most of that energy is taken from coal plants in China. Also learn about energy density in sunlight at Earth sea level, real efficiency of currently produced commercial panels (not cutting edge prototypes priced at gold price by weight) and try to figure out which area you need to cover by panels (and exclude from agriculture) to replace one typical nuclear plant.

TheOther
23 May 2019  #477

Steel is much simpler product,

Exactly. Why should highly industrialized countries manufacture products that second and third world nations do at a fraction of the cost? That's the reason why the US as well as western Europe stopped producing basic steel and concentrated on specialty steels that require certain technological skills. High tech for the industrialized countries, medium to low level technologies for countries that are still developing. Make sense, doesn't it?

Tariff's ! M.A.G.A. !

Can't cure stupid. You pay for them.

johnny reb
23 May 2019  #478

While you support China

Velund
23 May 2019  #479

concentrated on specialty steels that require certain technological skills.

LOL. With same result you can concentrate on masturbation, looking to chinese steel products catalog. ;) This require some skills as well. ;) Especially if China will impose export tariffs for anything that US stopped to produce locally. ;)

There is almost no steel varieties that require "skills". Except, maybe, some sort of magnetic alloys, that manufactured in tens of tons per year and really comparable to copper if not silver by cost of finished tape for transformers cores. Plus, maybe, some high grade HSS for cutting tools - again very very limited manufacture. Stainless alloys - separate story, formally it is not a steel at all.

johnny reb
24 May 2019  #480

Why is this thread being blocked from view of the unregistered members/public ?
Is it that unworthy ?


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