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USA News and Poland - Part 1



Miloslaw
7 Jun 2019  #721

US matters are the last position on my list of interest

As a Pole, that shows just how narrow minded, politcally motivated and blind to reality that you are.
Poland needs The USA.Because it cannot rely on The EU.

Velund
7 Jun 2019  #722

Yes, EU funding of "Polish economic miracle" will cease soon, and new sponsor is need urgently. There is a huge loads of aged Russophobia that need to be sold to someone who can value it. ;)

pawian
7 Jun 2019  #723

But Trump isn`t a Russophobe, quite the opposite. Who will Poland sell it to, then?

Rich Mazur
7 Jun 2019  #724

Hey, wait, US matters are the last position on my list of interest.

Hey, educator, read the thread title: USA News and Poland and my location.

Why would I post about any other country? BTW, just try to imagine the world without the US. Then, you would be speaking German and Russian.

The world without Poland? Nobody would even notice.

pawian
7 Jun 2019  #725

Quoting from cbsnews.com: The number of women who were victims of homicide in the United States grew by 21 percent in 2016

Sorry but there is some little manipulation in your reasoning. Previously you said that women get murdered or at least beat up in greater numbers today than ever before. You added that they feel empowered and independent and, because of that, do stupi sh** and venture where they don't belong: drunk and alone, looking for a ride home at 3 am.

However, you cleverly omitted the info provided in your link, namely that most of female victims are murdered by males whom they know well.

More than half of the women who were murdered in 2017 worldwide were slain by an intimate partner or family member. Eighty-two percent of homicide victims targeted by intimate partners are women.

Yes, they said worldwide but why should the USA be different than the world?

E.g, check this out
It is already well-established that women in the U.S. are far more likely to be killed by an intimate partner than by any other group of people. It's not strangers, friends or acquaintances who pose the biggest threat to women's lives. It's the men they date and marry.

huffpost.com/entry/most-murders-of-american-women-involve-domestic-violence

What does it mean? It means that white male supremacists resort to violence more frequently, especially when they realise females see through them and understand what they really are - hopeless losers.

Hence, my initial post which started this little dispute is perfectly relevant.

No, you still don`t understand that the greatest threat to the white race is this pathetic feeling of superiority

Declaring victory was too early, genius. :)

Rich Mazur
7 Jun 2019  #726

It means that white male supremacists resort to violence more frequently,

I was almost ready to respond and then I read the quoted part. FO.

pawian
7 Jun 2019  #727

Blacks kidnapped Blacks from Africa and brought them to U.S. to sell as slaves.

And poor Americans had no choice but to buy those Blacks because if they didn`t, they would starve to death on American coast. :):):)

And the free Blacks owned many Blacks as their slaves and did not treat them well.

it is obvious you haven`t read a proper history book as you are talking bs. There were 4 million black slaves in the USA in mid 19th century but black owners possessed only 10.000 of them. Do you have a calculator to count the percentage or you want a link to an online one? :)

And you call yourself a school teacher.

Yes, I am a high school and uni teacher. this job is my vocation, I do it for money in Poland and for free in the PF when I am enlightening you about American (sic) history. Isn`t it funny? :):)

There were very few White slave owners and the ones that did own slaves treated them very well

Where did you get that blatant lie from?? Your history knowledge is lousy. I know that history is the most neglected subject in American schools but such crazy views as yours are really unbearable. Sorry, it is not funny anymore, it is pure madness instead.

Before you borrow some books from your local library, check this out

theroot.com/slavery-by-the-numbers-1790874492

Then read Uncle Tom`s Cabin about good treatment of slaves by White Christian Americans. I read it to my kids once. You didn`t, did you? :):)

.Because it cannot rely on The EU.

That is only your private opinion which is false, of course.

BTW, just try to imagine the world without the US. The world without Poland? Nobody would even notice.

Oh, come on, I didn`t want to hurt your feelings when I said that American stuff is in the last place of importance to me (but I still meant the PF, not the real life). As a Pole and European, I am primarily interested in Poland and Europe. .

I was almost ready to respond and then I read the quoted part. FO.

Oh, come on, it is really annoying that we are having a nice debate and you suddenly throw a tantrum and leave. It is the second time in this thread. WTF?

Rich Mazur
7 Jun 2019  #728

Quoting:

Black women are disproportionately impacted by lethal domestic violence. In 2016, black females were murdered by men at a rate of 2.62 per 100,000, more than twice the rate of 1.03 per 100,000 for white women murdered by men.

Yeah, it's those "white supremacists" that murder black women.

pawian
7 Jun 2019  #729

Yes, of course, inter racial homicide is higher for black females than for white.

But when you replied to my initial post a few dozen posts above, you were talking about white women, didn`t you?

They feel empowered and independent, do stupi sh** and venture where they don't belong

Why did I think so? You either despise or at best ignore black race. Why are you suddenly so thoughful and caring about blacks?

Let`s be consistent and stick to the white race, then, . I hope you still remember what you wrote:

The number of women who were victims of homicide in the United States grew by 21 percent

So, let`s clarify it at last: you meant whites, blacks, blacks mixed with whites or who exactly?

johnny reb
7 Jun 2019  #730

And poor Americans had no choice but to buy those Blacks

You mean just like the ones sold in America to the English and then brought to England by their owners, were often still treated as slaves.

Yes, I am a high school and uni teacher. this job is my vocation,

How is that possible when you post every day all day long here on the P.F. ?
Plus your immature bickering with everyone here certainly doesn't show the courtly professionalism of a university instructor.
I question your claim to fame.

Your history knowledge is lousy.

If that is true then your knowledge of American history must be REAL lousy to nil.

Then read Uncle Tom`s Cabin about good treatment of slaves by White Christian Americans. I

LOL - Uncle Tom's Cabin is a novel with unsubstantiated facts of slavery........ Uncle Tom's Cabin was wholly false, or at least wildly exaggerated.

Let me ask you Professor P.P. Whack, have you ever read the Key ?
It's also a kind of fiction.
It claims to be about the sources Stowe consulted while writing the novel Uncle Tom's Cabin, for example, she read many of the works cited here only after the novel was published.

Do your homework before you come to class son.

Velund
7 Jun 2019  #731

But Trump isn`t a Russophobe, quite the opposite. Who will Poland sell it to, then?

There is a lot of potential customers in Congress, that will deal with Satan itself to make life of Trump a bit harder.

pawian
7 Jun 2019  #732

Do your homework before you come to class son.

I did and it seems you are still talking bs, especially about that Key. Do you really know what you are talking about?

PS. See you tomorr... tonight. I must go to bed. During the day I will be checking if bees pollinate my kiwi vines. If they don`t, I will have to do it myself. Wish me good luck.

johnny reb
7 Jun 2019  #733

There were 4 million black slaves in the USA in mid 19th century but black owners possessed only 10.000 of them.

Your google skills suck.
From the 16th to the 19th centuries, an estimated 12 million Africans were shipped as slaves to the Americas. (see Slavery in the Americas) Of these, an estimated 645,000 were brought to what is now the United States.

Do your students make you look like an idiot like I do when they correct you ?

I will be checking if bees pollinate my kiwi vines. If they don`t, I will have to do it myself.

Now do you do that by hand Professor ? LMAO !

Rich Mazur
8 Jun 2019  #734

The US and Poland are very often at the opposite ends on the sanity scale. The so-called anchor babies are just one example.
A sane country like Poland requires that both parents be citizens for their kids to be Polish citizens.

The US, a country more insane than any when immigration laws are concerned, allows an illegal foreign garbage to manufacture a new American citizen just by hopping over or crawling under the fence and running to the nearest US hospital where, at my expense, the woman will give us a gift from hell - another future democrat and a spring board for two dozen of other foreign scum to come here legally via chain migration. Thank you, Democrats. Thank you, Eddie Kennedy. You died not a day too soon.

Why the hell did I come here?

Ironside
8 Jun 2019  #735

There is a huge loads of aged Russophobia

Is that Russian problem? After all that it is their invention.

Then read Uncle Tom`s Cabin

It the same as your mussing about Poland. Crap.

Bluzeki
8 Jun 2019  #736

Breaking News... Mexico makes deal with Trump to avoid tariffs. Boy, that didn't take long. Its sad we have to outsource our immigration policies because Congress is a useless piece of dog *&$#. I apologize to the dogs. Which again, raises the question. What about term limits for the dysfunctional D.C. swamp?

If the president can only have 2 terms, then Congress should as well. Get rid go Pelosi, Waters, Durbin and the Reps too!

foxnews.com/politics/us-makes-deal-with-mexico-on-tariffs-immigration-trump-announces

Too bad about the tariffs, I was hoping Mexico was paying for the wall.

Rich Mazur
8 Jun 2019  #737

because Congress is a useless piece of dog *&$#.

...and that is why China does not have any of that crap. There is a firing squad waiting for those Chinese congressmen who have better ideas than Xi.

Seriously, no private corporation could survive with its own 'congress", a bunch of parasites who from day one in office, like cheap hoes, walk around with a tin cup trying to collect enough for the next election cycle. Like you said, who needs this sh*t.

Even without a firing squad, just try to imagine what kind of moron would say in the Chinese "congress" that Xi should be in prison while Xi is happily visiting Trump in Florida.

The more I know the US and the Western democracies, the more I like China, Russia, Putin and the idea of an iron fist.
What we have is an organized anarchy. Just look at the border...

BTW, of that seems too radical, just look how Eisenhower won WW2. It was a dictatorship, not a "democracy". No congress, no committees, just his orders and the iron first of the military code. That is why the idea of the EU "army" is a joke Leno would be happy to deliver in his days.

johnny reb
8 Jun 2019  #738

When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury "If our plans for Iraq were just an example of 'empire building' by George Bush."

He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders.

The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

Rich Mazur
8 Jun 2019  #739

the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders.

Which is fine and noble. The problem is that we are the only ones doing it. That realization should make the Americans stop and re-think their desire to be the messiah nation. It's very expensive and so far without a tangible benefit - a combination a country with an unpayable debt should avoid.

pawian
8 Jun 2019  #740

How is that possible when you post every day all day long here on the P.F. ?

Yes, this is a mystery which can be easily guessed but you need to think harder. Are you able to? :):)

Plus your immature bickering with everyone here certainly doesn't show the courtly professionalism of a university instructor.

Are we at uni here? Don`t be ridiculous. It is the PF, the best Polish forum where you can bust brainless rightards and see how they whine and cry to mods. :)

Uncle Tom's Cabin was wholly false.

What you are saying now is false. The book was based on facts, its only fictional trick was that all unfortunate events accumulated onto one man.

have you ever read the Key ? It claims to be about the sources Stowe consulted while writing the novel Uncle Tom's Cabin,

From what you say I presume you are mentioning the Key as a sort of accusation of Stowe. I am afraid you didn`t read your sources carefully enough because the Key is a defence of Stowe!

After the publication of Uncle Tom's Cabin, Southerners accused Stowe of misrepresenting slavery. In order to show that she had neither lied about slavery nor exaggerated the plight of enslaved people, she wrote A Key to Uncle Tom's Cabin. The book was subtitled "Presenting the Original Facts and Documents upon Which the Story Is Founded

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Key_to_Uncle_Tom%27s_Cabin

Your google skills suck.

No, it is your general aptitude that sucks because it is obvious you are unable to interpret certain historical facts properly.

From 16th to 19th centuries, estimated 12 million Africans were shipped as slaves to Americas.

Yes, genius and what? Do you want to imply I was wrong when I said there were 4 million slaves in mid 19th century? No, I wasn`t, it is you who exhibited total mental laziness and inability to think in historical terms. If you read my link Slavery in numbers, you would know that each black female slave had 10 children on average.

Do your students make you look like an idiot like I do when they correct you ?

Sorry, it is a long way for a student like you to make me look like one. For the time being, you showed your hopeless ignorance. Advice to you, genius - if you want to talk history, be better prepared next time. If not, just shut up and read what others say.

As you can see, I have done my homework well which can`t be said about you.

Velund
8 Jun 2019  #741

The book was based on facts, its only fictional trick was that all unfortunate events accumulated onto one man.

Can I write a book about some casino, based on true facts, with only fictional trick that all win events accumulated onto one man?

cms neuf
8 Jun 2019  #742

Whatever Colin Powell says in an emotive quote that is obviously not the case - just ask any Native American tribe who encountered the US after 1777. In addition the US built an empire that included the Phillipines, Puerto Rico, Guam, Hawiaii and a whole bunch of other islands bought or stolen, many of which are still US territories. You could also say that Texas was taken by force.

johnny reb
8 Jun 2019  #743

- just ask any Native American tribe who encountered the US after 1777.

How about before 1777 ?
The Euro's tried to take the lands from the Indians first until they themselves were defeated by the Yanks and sent back home.

you are unable to interpret certain historical facts properly.

Because not like you who reads fiction to base my facts on.

you would know that each black female slave had 10 children on average.

And those children all had ten children so you are way off the mark with your moronic claim. lol
American history is obviously not one of your strong area's being you have to base it on one fictional book to base your opinion.

Kind of like the Snowflakes having CNN as their only news source.

pawian
8 Jun 2019  #744

Can I write a book about some casino, based on true facts, with only fictional trick that all win events accumulated onto one man?

:):) Good comparison. What was the reason for mentioning the book at all? One genius rightard said:

free Blacks owned many Blacks as slaves and did not treat them well./ very few White slave owners and treated them very well.

So, I told him that black owners possessed only 10.000 slaves out of total number 4 million. I also suggested that good treatment is a myth and advised him to get acquainted with the first source which came to my mind. Was the book rejected as false? Yes, by self denying southerners who supported slavery.

you have to base it on one fictional book to base your opinion.

Ok, don`t you like fiction? Here you are:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_slaves_in_the_United_States

The treatment of slaves in the United States varied by time and place, but was generally brutal and degrading. Whipping and sexual abuse, including rape, were common.

So cut down on that idiotic claim of yours that FEW whites had slaves and treated them WELL. You discredit your intelligence and ours too.

johnny reb
8 Jun 2019  #745

Was the book rejected as false? Yes

See, now we are getting some place with you at least admitting you were wrong.

The treatment of slaves in the United States varied by time and place

that idiotic claim of yours that FEW whites had slaves

Maybe that is why you are so confused Chimp.
Did you know that the American Indians owned thousands of black slaves.
Most of the White slave owners were much more humane then the Black slave owners.
It is alright if I call you Chimp isn't it ?

pawian
8 Jun 2019  #746

Did you know that the American Indians owned thousands of black slaves.

That`s pathetic. Instead of explaining your previous crazy beliefs, you introduce Am Indians. Hey, are you also going to mention Vikings who landed in American territory once and also used to own slaves? :):)

It is alright if I call you Chimp isn't it ?

It is perfectly all right, Rebe. :):)

Miloslaw
8 Jun 2019  #747

See, now we are getting some place with you at least admitting you were wrong

As Spike31 said in a different thread, this guy is untouchable, because he is so PC, creates a lot of threads, controversy and interaction.
It really is pathetic.........

pawian
8 Jun 2019  #748

this guy is untouchable, because he is so PC, creates a lot of threads, controversy and interaction.

You can also be one of us. Join the Untouchables team! Just do what you have just enumerated and the staff will love you, too. Isn`t it an exciting perspective? :):)

It really is pathetic.........

You don`t want?

Then sorry, but the most pathetic thing here is you. You have practically given up all threads in which you participated before and instead you only whine and snitch to mods after you get your dues for being such a fool. :):)

Miloslaw
8 Jun 2019  #749

It is perfectly all right

Good.
Then from now on we can refer to you as "Chimp".
And with your full approval......

Please note
From now on we can refer to the P creature as Chimp, or malpa.
As he has confirmed that is acceptable.

johnny reb
8 Jun 2019  #750

Instead of explaining your previous crazy beliefs,

I wasn't aware that I was required to stoop to your level and have to explain squat to you Professor Chimp.
The gest of this debate is that the White slave owners treated their slave with much more respect then did the 46,000 British slave owner or the Black slave owners.

That is what you call my crazy belief then prove me wrong Professor Loud Moith.
The history of British slavery has been buried however.
The thousands of British families who grew rich on the slave trade, or from the sale of slave produced sugar, in the 17th and 18th centuries, brushed those uncomfortable chapters of their dynastic stories under the carpet.

Yet you want to point the finger you hypocrite.

Then from now on we can refer to you as "Chimp".

Well yeah.......Look up the definition of 'Pawian' in the Cambridge Dictionary.
Pawian = Baboon
Very fitting one might say.
Beats his chest to be heard and poops in public stinking the place up.


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