USA News and Poland - Part 2

While I don't think it's correct statement what makes the later vote any more valid than the first one? I was always curious about it...As if it wasn't people voting later but some aliens...

Vote - MSM brainwash - vote - MSM brainwash - vote... If elites is not executed after just first act of sabotage, they can repeat this cycle endless.

Hmmm, somehow voting and executions don't go together in my world

But if your view is correct then I'm surprised we allow voting at all. After all either we trust people to make decisions or we don't.

How about sabotage and execution pair?

De facto, UK elites does everything to NOT follow clear and legal referendum decision. Can you offer other definition, if not sabotage?

Not at the same time. But, when the term is over and they didn't keep their promises, why not?

My solution would be to give the options back to people. Give the options : no brexit, hard brexit and the deal. See what wins. It's not repetition of the first one yet takes the decision out from politicians.


Because in democracies we just vote them out of office.

So, nobody is responsible for any unprofessional and probably corrupt decisions (latter unless there is clear proofs available). One of main reasons of democratic procedure then - to dissolve responsibility between plebs and place all burden to them.


Option "no brexit" is already voted out. So, attempt to offer this option will be exactly the thing that Bolton mentioned.

But you are still stuck with what they passed and have no guarantees that the next crew will not do the same: promise A and deliver B. Over and over...

That is why I don't vote..

You know the definition of insanity. Yes, voters in "democracies" are insane.

Referendum is only a guidance. Parliament doesn't have any legal obligation to honor results of a referendum. On the other hand as a vox populi they cannot be ignored hence politicians are bending every each way

I wouldn't call it a sabotage. They play for time as they (90% of the politicians) clearly do not think the uk would be better on it own and out of the EU. They are elected on a premise they know better or should know better than others and it is their duty to do well for the people and country as they see fit.

The thing is majority of the people do not trust them that much anymore and expressed it in the referendum.
In my opinion rightly as politicians are lying and manipulative bastards. Par per course for so called modern democracy where only dogs and cats do not have the right to vote.

They had a better system in the middle ages. :)

For exorbitant price of C that was out of question initially, due to apparent economic unfeasibility.


Parliament doesn't have any legal obligations to keep their promises as well.

BTW - one of reasons why most of Russians vote for Putin (and will vote again even if Constitution should be changed for this) - he is never trying to tell that "it was my promise on previous cadence and it is void now".

@Velund
For corruption etc we have courts.


One, it is really funny to me when people say that. When it comes to government we allow people to vote every few years because we understand people may change their mind , their needs may change and the voters group change ( older voters dying and new coming to age) . Plus we may be unhappy with how the rulers dealt with it. But talk avout referendum and suddenly it doesn't apply?

Two, what if voters wanted to leave but are unhappy with no deal or the offered deal and would rather stay than accept those?

Democracies die because nobody was ever elected by promising to spend less.

@Rich Mazur
..."Bread and circuses"...

Parliament doesn't make promises a party does.


He would win anyway, so it is better to vote on him to keep up an illusion you can choose your leader for real.

You say this to keep up an illusion that you understand what is really going on in Russia? ;)

I don't know what going on right now as I don't really care but I know Russia and get a general picture.

From which source?

Can you look to your passport and tell the date you last crossed russian border?

That is for me to know and for you to guess.

He contacts Kremlin troll factory in St Petersburg every day. His task is to sow anti European ferment in Poland and Polish sites.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

The Internet Research Agency also known as Glavset and known in Russian Internet slang as the Trolls from Olgino) is a Russian company, based in Saint Petersburg, engaged in online influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests.

Why is being a Kremlin troll treated here as just a notch better than giving 20-buck bj's to homeless bums who didn't see a shower in a decade?

I would love to troll for Kremlin and be paid for it. So far, I am doing it for free.
Anybody knows how to apply?

Ask Iron. :):)

You ask him. He hates you less.

I guess that you not above of "kremlinology experts" that made your politicians to do a lot of purely moronic things. ;)

Hmm i wouldnt mind working there in a consulting role i wonder what they pay. Im sure the trolls get a great kick out of antagonizing different groups of gullible americans.

If I could meet Putin, I would work for free.

Did I mention that white women and white college graduates are socialist morons?

From The Hill:

....surveys that show Trump performing poorly with ....white women and white college graduates.

Then tell them to give back the difference of what their 401k is worth now compared to what it was worth when obozo left office.

According to a rasmussen poll, only 29% of americans believe epstein died by suicide.

The goyim cant know if they shut it down.

(((Vox media))) calls the 61% conspiracy theorists and says they should be censored.

I polled myself and the result is 100% that our prisons and the overpaid fat clowns who run them are a joke. One of many, btw.

Prison guards dont make squat. But the shrinks, doctors, dentists and wardens do. Most of the medical professionals are the bottom of the barrel finishing in the lowest quarter of their class. Yet they make a great salary. Ive heard of figures up to 300 400k even for mds psyds working in prisons, not sure about jails though.

The guards dont run the prisons. The inmates do. And because the guards make so little money theyre easily bribed. The going rate for bringing in a cell phone for example ie around $500

What they make does not make this any less ridiculous. From yahoo.com:

But during that jail term, he was allowed to purchase female underwear that would not fit an average adult woman, ....
....Epstein benefited from a ....work-release program that allowed him to walk out of prison for up to 16 hours per day for six or seven days a week.

Why do we have jails? He could have just as easily sent them a postcard once in a while.