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USA News and Poland - Part 2



Miloslaw
21 Sep 2019  #1081

Anyone with half a brain hates Iran.
But The Americans look like they might be leading us all into yet another pointless and costly war.

Chemikiem
21 Sep 2019  #1082

yet another pointless and costly war.

Nothing new there then.

Joker
21 Sep 2019  #1083

Anyone with half a brain hates Iran.

Americans are unified against these A-holes. Not only jews.


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Rich Mazur
21 Sep 2019  #1084

Anyone with half a brain hates Iran.

...but not enough to send his son to fight there and die. At least, I wouldn't. And that is why I wish Iran, just as I do North Korea, to develop a credible nuclear capability to chill our warmongering Boltons.

But The Americans look like they might be leading us all into yet another pointless and costly war.

This is where the UK can play a positive role and, as I suggested in the past, when you get that email from the DoD or the White House, all you have to do is send back this: iilii and fo.

If you are as stupid as I suspect, you will join.

Miloslaw
21 Sep 2019  #1085

...but not enough to send his son to fight there and die. At least, I wouldn't

I wouldn't send my son.
You don't have a son, so no worries there.

Rich Mazur
21 Sep 2019  #1086

I wouldn't send anyone's son 7000 miles away to defend "America". In fact, America does not need standing army as the real and greatest threat to America is America. More specifically, the tumor we call the DC. Any other threat is a matter of 15 minutes. Unless, of course, it's a money sucking fake like Iraq or Afghanistan. Then, it takes forever plus a century. Like in Korea where we defend them and we pay them to defend them. As they say, you can't make this sh*it up.

johnny reb
21 Sep 2019  #1087

I wouldn't send my son.

How about the feminist daughters that scream equality ?
I would love to see Chelsea Clinton, obama's daughters and even Ivanka be required to serve.
That might slow trigger happy Washington down a bit who own the military complexes. $$$$$

Dirk diggler
21 Sep 2019  #1088

Anyone with half a brain hates Iran.

Why? What has iran done to you or your family that would make you hate them?

Atleast unlike americas "best ally" iran doesnt set up listening posts to spy on the president or kill us soldiers and citizens in false flags. Even whem american troops violated irans sovereignty they were released.

Westerners hate iran for no reason other than jewish controlled media tells them to. Its quite sad.

johnny reb
21 Sep 2019  #1089

Home of the Islamic extremist Dirk.
Iran shelters them.
Training camps there in how to kill infidels.
Same ideology that brought the towers down on 9/11.
You have even posted how you hate them.

What has iran done to you or your family that would make you hate them?

What have the jews done to you or your family to hate them the way you do ?

Dirk diggler
22 Sep 2019  #1090

Are you serious dude?

Theyre shia, not sunnis. There are no training camps in iran and certainly werent for decades.

Same ideology that brought the towers down on 9/11.
You have even posted how you hate them.

Again those were sunni saudis. All those terror attacks committed in the usa and europe were exclusively by sunnis, i cant think of one that was by shia.

The only group iran funds is hezbollah and if you ask lebanese christians they love hezbollah since theyre protecting them from fundamentalist sunni groups like al qaeda, al nusra, isis, etc.

This is the exact ignorance and brainwashing by media im talking about. Some israeli ass kissing neocon on fox news talks about iran supporting terrorists and already they think al qaeda, isis, etc who iran fights against. They and the russians did more to kick isis out than anyone else including the usa. The last time hezbollah killed us troops was in the 80s since the usa invaded lebanon so thats understandable. They have never attacked us soil nor do they needlessly kill citizens unlike saudi funded groups who are supposedly our ally. Even now the usa supports "moderate" sunni rebels and during the syrian war tried to make al nusra and tahir al sham look like the good guys and hezbollah the bad guys when theyre the ones actually protecting druze and catholics.

You have even posted how you hate them.

Actually i posted a while back how i love iran and the shia and find it poetic justice that despite us decades long war in iraq now iran backed shias were elected in the last election.

What have the jews done to you or your family to hate them the way you do ?

Oh where to begin.... unconstitutional federal reserve disproportionately run by small hat tribe members taking money out of every check, constant pro race mixing pro lgbt propoganda on tv, tax money going to fight israels wars and funding the country to the tune of tens of billioms a year equal to about 200k per israeli family, they get free healthcare free education and tons of benefits since were funding their defense and other estates leaving them with more money for their citizens, the jewdicial system, the flooding of europe with turd worlders financed by jewish funded ngos, the demand for poles to give jews reparations, the destruction of normalcy and traditional conservative values through (((hollywood))) brainwashing..

johnny reb
22 Sep 2019  #1091

There are no training camps in iran and certainly werent for decades.

Baloney Dirk.
dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/iran-terror-proxies-training-camps-18918900
14 of them known.
Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, and provides assistance to al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, and other terrorist networks that are a threat to America and it's allies.

Remember Iran saying that they wanted a nuke to take Israel off the map ?
No wonder you support them.

Oh where to begin....

So in short jews have done nothing directly to harm you or your family.

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1092

Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, and provides assistance to al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas,

None of them a threat to the US. Our "allies" can take care of terrorism all by themselves, as fighting terrorism is a police-level activity. With their insane immigration policies, our "allies" actually promote terrorism, so fu*ck them. I mean our "allies". Taliban is free to kill as many in Afghanistan as they wish.

As far as any threat to Israel, it would have to be nuclear and that means by a hostile nuke-capable state, not 19 guys with dirty underwear. That kind of threat is solved by a simple two-sentence email from the DoD, not 17 years of slow bleeding in Afghanistan with no end in sight. That is if we choose to provide such an umbrella.

johnny reb
22 Sep 2019  #1093

None of them a threat to the US.

How about their sleeper cells that are already blended within the United States and European countries ?
Tells us how many Americans and Europeans that they have killed and wounded on our own home soils big guy.
I'm not wasting my time googling it because your statement is so stupid.
Just numbers as no essay is necessary.

TheOther
22 Sep 2019  #1094

There's a difference between free health care and health care for all. A truly free system doesn't exist anywhere in the industrialized world. Most of the time it's a mixture of caps on premiums and government controlled prices for pharmaceutical products. We are the only ones in the west who get shafted by both health care providers and the pharma industry simultaneously.

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1095

Maybe.

Here is one of my "trick" questions: Where does the majority of life-saving drugs come from?

Here is another: Where does the majority of life-saving machines come from?

And another: Where does the majority of life-saving procedures come from?

And the final one: Where do the rich from the sh*itholes go for life-saving treatment?

Four questions, four countries. Or is it just one country?

Since you know so much about health care, I am sure you will have no problems answering.

TheOther
22 Sep 2019  #1096

Where does the majority of life-saving drugs come from?

Why do Canadians only pay a fraction of what we have to shell out for these life-saving drugs?

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1097

Because all of these life-saving drugs were developed in Canada.

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1098

How about their sleeper cells that are already blended within the United States and European countries ?

Sleeper cells in Europe are Europe's problem. The sleeper cells in the US is the FBI's and police problem. So, why is the US army in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia? To fight sleeper cells in Michigan?

And if we have them it's because the morons in the DC did everything possible by being stupid, naive, negligent, and politically correct to make it easy for them to be here.

The 19 smelly Muslim a-holes who gave us 9/11 were easily catchable but our boys and girls at the FBI were too stupid to do it while counting days till retirement. With that as a fact, there is no fu*cking way I would enlist - my age aside - to defend "our freedoms" by building schools and roads in some sh*ithole while, as you just put it, we have "sleeper cells" at home.

BTW, did you know that it was the Russian FSB who alerted our geniuses at the FBI about the Boston brothers being bad dudes. So what did the FBI do? They had a chat and went back to their offices to count the days. And, then, we got the Boston massacre. That's the US's best at work.

Dirk diggler
22 Sep 2019  #1099

Where does the majority of life-saving machines come from?

China

Where does the majority of life-saving procedures come from?

Us and europe

Where do the rich from the sh*itholes go for life-saving treatment?

Us and europe

For life saving drugs its either us or india.

America has by far the best healthcare IF you can afford it. However most people dont have a quarter mil in cash laying around to pay for a life saving surgery.

And actually more and more americans are obtaining healthcare abroad in places like thailand, poland, brazil, india, turkey, korea, etc because the cost is a fraction of what it is in the usa. And each country has their own specialties like india is amazing for nephrology and getting a kidney transplant.

Another ridiculous thing is the cost of medicine. Us pharma came out with hep c cures. However most people cant get them because they cost 80k and up basically 1k per pill taken for several months. Meanwhile the exact same pills can be purchased for around 1k in india for the whole procedure. And its similar all around the usa. A family.member purchased basically a suitcase full of some gastro medicine in poland for the cost of 2 monthly bottles in the us.

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1100

China

China designed them or just made them?

Us and europe

Nothing is ever equal. Only one is number one. So, which is it? The US or Europe?

For life saving drugs its either us or india.

Which drugs were developed in India first? I am not asking about generic copies.

more americans are obtaining healthcare abroad in places like thailand, poland, brazil, india, turkey, korea, etc because the cost is a fraction

And some stupid broads go to Mexico for a Brazilian butt and run back to the US to save their lives. There is always a cheaper place desperate people will go to. But that is not my point.

Dirk diggler
22 Sep 2019  #1101

What is your point? Again americas healthcare is the best IF youre a multimillionaire and can afford to shell out the asking prices. Therefore for the average person poland and the rest of europes healthcare is far better. You have just as educated doctors using the same high tech equipment and prescribing the same drugs - all for a fraction of the price.

When i analyze something to determine which is better/best i dont think of just the price but the overall value of which price is certainly a factor. Based on that i believe that polands and the rest of europes is far better than the usa.

And some stupid broads go to Mexico for a Brazilian butt and run back to the US to save their lives.

Americans go mostly for dentistry to mexico because again you have the same qualified dentists using the same equipment and doing the same procedures for anywhere from half to a quarter of the price as rhe usa.

Chemikiem
22 Sep 2019  #1102

americas healthcare is the best IF youre a multimillionaire

To be honest, I was absolutely staggered when you wrote how much your parents are paying in premiums. Sounds like if you're only on an average income, you'd be totally screwed with a serious health issue. The NHS isn't perfect and we have waiting lists, but at least healthcare doesn't bankrupt us.

johnny reb
22 Sep 2019  #1103

Medical bills are the number one cause of bankruptcy in America.
President obama, in his 2009 State of the Union address, said that a medical bankruptcy occurred every 30 seconds.
That's 1 million bankruptcies a year in America because of medical bills.
One of my family members has private health insurance for him, his wife and two children.
I think he said he is paying around $ 16,000 per year with a $3,000 deductible.
Don't quote me on that though.

Rich Mazur
22 Sep 2019  #1104

And we can thank the drunks, the smokers, the fatsos, the drug addicts, the random sex idiots, and the potato chip and coke as breakfast consumers for it. Thank you, a-holes.

And, of course, the open borders fanatics and their future Latino supporters, as well as the liberals who love that chain migration of old parents who didn't spend one fu*cking day working but get the same medical benefits as I do after 50 years.

All of that has nothing to do with the amounts this nation spends on medical care. Nada. Zilch.

TheOther
22 Sep 2019  #1105

Because all of these life-saving drugs were developed in Canada.

BS. The world's largest pharmaceutical companies manufacture on a global scale. Prescription drugs are exported and imported everywhere. Only the US has given their local pharma industry a carte blanche to charge whatever they want, it seems. You and I pay an arm and a leg for that federally supported robbery called the U.S. patent system.

Dirk diggler
23 Sep 2019  #1106

Sounds like if you're only on an average income, you'd be totally screwed with a serious health issue.

Medical costs are cited as the number one reason why people go bankrupt.

People who have work through employers with over 50 people are fine. Youll get decent insurance and usually the company pays around half and you the other half. However, having several hundred a month taken out of your check is a lot of money for most americans.

The people who get screwed are small business owners, people who work for small businesses, and self employed. You pay according to income but even on a middle and upper middle class income youre paying the same as if you had a second rent or second mortgage - and thats just for insuance to cover some of yoyr bills you still have to pay more for meds, doctoe visits, surgeries, etc. The hospital billed us 40k for stupid gastroscopy its insane. My parents are very lucky to pay a grand a month. Before obamacare theyd be paying way more and the insurance wouldnt cover preexisting conditions so basically the things that cause you health problems the most arent covered. Either that or theyll flat out deny you. They didnt eben have insurance before obamacare because of that. There was no point because it was too expensive and wont cover what they actually needed it for. Imagine that a self employed small biz owner makes a six figure income yet cant get proper health care bc theyll either deny you or charge you out the ass and still wont cover the things you need.

Now trump wants to change the whole system. He claims that preexisting will still be covered but a lot of people with more knowledge of trumpcare than i say it doesnt. I tries to find out more info but theres very limited info online and its contradictory.

And we can thank the drunks, the smokers, the fatsos, the drug addicts, the random sex idiots

Theyre not the ones driving up the costs. Its the profits that the medical industry wants. Even if there wasnt a single drug addict or fatass healthcare costs would still be high.

johnny reb
23 Sep 2019  #1107

You and I pay an arm and a leg for that federally supported robbery called the U.S. patent system.

With kick backs all the way down to the doctors that prescribes them.
Did you know doctors use to get a percentage of every prescription that they wrote.
Now the big pharmaceuticals companies send the doctor and his family on a free ten day cruise instead of money for pushing their brand names.

Dirk diggler
23 Sep 2019  #1108

They also pay them thousands in consulting fees if they promote their medicine at conferences.

See they dont have that in poland. You can buy the exact same brand name meds for a fraction of the price in the us. In the us itll cost you 60k 80k for a hep c cure depending on what companys meds you go on. In india and other countries its around 1k. A dexilant script costs well over a hundred with insurance. In poland it costs a few dollars.

Rich Mazur
23 Sep 2019  #1109

Theyre not the ones driving up the costs.

Yes, they are. I wish you would google before posting. It takes less than a second to find this:

The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States. Childhood obesity alone is responsible for $14 billion in direct medical costs.

And that's just obesity - 21% of the entire medical spending!!!!!!

Now, what do you think we spend on drug addiction? Here we go:

Actual Cost of Drug Abuse in U.S. Tops $1 Trillion Annually
The real cost of the nation's drug epidemic is equal to 5% of U.S. GDP


Notice that both obesity and drug addiction are personal choices. I didn't even mention the real diseases like coronary problems from spending all kinds of time on the couch munching salty pretzels.

johnny reb
23 Sep 2019  #1110

and the insurance wouldnt cover preexisting conditions

So preexisting is like driving a car without insurance and you smash it up.
You don't need it until you get in a wreck and when you do (after the fact) THEN you decide to buy insurance and expect your insurance company to pay for the preexisting accident when you had no insurance ?

How clever.........so sad that your car insurance wouldn't be dumb enough to pay for a preexisting accident either.
How would they stay in business ?
And 90% of preexisting is major medical bills.
Talk about a health insurance company going broke quick.
Is that fair to the people that pay a monthly premium to stay covered by health insurance ?
There is something that just ain't copasetic with your logic here.


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