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USA News and Poland - Part 2



Dirk diggler
3 Dec 2019  #2011

spending too little on defense

Wonder when he'll say the same to Israel - who receives far more military aid than any country and more than all the humanitarian aid we send to Africa combined.

Oh wait... never...

And they're not even a part of NATO meaning they don't have to do diddly squat in return.Spy on the president, bomb a US ship, kill US marines in a false flag in Egypt and still get tens of billions a year for free. Sure sounds like our best ally...

bring the troops home and deploy them to protect OUR borders for a change.

Not gonna happen. Obama was better at deporting illegals than Trump. Trump has straight up said he's not going to do much about the illegals because of job shortages in the trades. Younger generations rather work a ****** retail, restaurant, or office job and make less money than work with their hands. The only people that are going to fill those types of jobs are latinos going forward.

Rich Mazur
3 Dec 2019  #2012

Obama was better at deporting illegals than Trump.

Frankly, that was a shocker to me. Add to this the fact that we only repair and upgrade the existing wall after 2 years of the Republican trifecta, and I would have no reason to vote for Trump again - even if my vote mattered, which is not the case in Illinois.

appreciation for what the Great United States of America has done for them

In politics there no such thing as appreciation. Only ongoing mutual interests or enemies. You can shower a woman with gifts and iloveyous every single day, and all those credits will be poof gone if say that she gained weight.

johnny reb
5 Dec 2019  #2013

The Trump administration said Wednesday it had finalized a rule tightening work requirements which could cut hundreds of thousands from food stamps.
The new rule would apply to able bodied adults with no dependents.
The only thing these people know how to work is the system.
Trump just got my vote again.
I wonder if similar programs are being abused in Poland by the shiftless.

Lenka
5 Dec 2019  #2014

What programs? Foodstamps? We don't have anything like that as far as I know. I Poland people like that are more likely to be supported by family, live in some council flat and steal their gas and electricity from their neighbours

Rich Mazur
5 Dec 2019  #2015

a rule tightening work requirements which could cut hundreds of thousands from food stamps.

Step in the right direction but not far enough. The US government under any president has no business feeding people except the US army and the federal prisoners.

Second point is that I was promised fewer illegals. I got more.
Third, I was promised...Never mind.

Dirk diggler
5 Dec 2019  #2016

I wonder if similar programs are being abused in Poland by the shiftless.

In poland you get around 200 bucks a month and only for six months. Theres none of that b.s. Polish people work for theirs. Thats why poland didnt have a deluge of africans and muslims demanding free apartments, food, cash, etc for the rest of their life and their whole family. Meanwhile the w euros just give handouts to every turd worlder who enters into their country illegally. Its a literal transfer of wealth from generations of european tax payers going to turd worlders who just arrived and majority have no intention of working or assimilating.

You think the welfare system is abused in usa well its nothing like w europe.

Rich Mazur
5 Dec 2019  #2017

Meanwhile the w euros just give handouts to every turd worlder who enters into their country illegally.

Then, why nobody here, beside you, ever mentions this? Just mention, since I wouldn't expect anything like, God forbid, being just slightly annoyed.
I never felt so much contempt for anyone as I do for the Western European girlie wimps and their well mannered silence.
The best they can to is explain, but never object - even mildly and without a dozen weasel words.

Dirk diggler
5 Dec 2019  #2018

Then, why nobody here, beside you, ever mentions this? J

Because western euros are as you so eloquently put it

girlie wimps and their well mannered silence.

The w euros on this forum with a few exceptions are a reflection of that. And as you put it even if they don't like it they don't voice their disgust with the situation or do anything about it. Afterall, merely criticizing immigration policies and citing widely known facts that muslim migrants are driving the sexual assault rates in europe will get you fined or even jailed. Hell two Polish kids are serving a 5+ year sentence for posting an image on the internet that says "goodbye race traitor" with princess harry's brains splattered. That's the same sentence that the guy who stabbed several people on the London bridge received for plotting an actual terror attack.

Velund
5 Dec 2019  #2019

That's the same sentence

I will not be offended if someone will say that I'm too hard to "childs"... But something that is published, and able to give real psychos an idea what to do, must be punished as hard, as actual act of terror. Otherwise we will have dead bodies and bills for holding psychos in a special clinics for life. And ones who "programmed" that act of terror will go away unpunisted. To "program" next one.

Rich Mazur
5 Dec 2019  #2020

But something that is published, and able to give real psychos an idea

Give me an example of the mildest punishable statement.

Velund
6 Dec 2019  #2021

Give me an example

Not the mildest I think, but...

On December 4, a 29-year-old resident of Veliky Novgorod was found guilty of crimes under the Art. 280 h. 1 of the Criminal Code (public calls for extremist activities) and Art. 282 part 1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity)

- The Novgorodian was accused of posting an inscription on his website vk.com's user's page in order to urge Internet users to carry out extremist activities, namely to commit violent acts against people of non-Slavic nationality, calls for hostile actions, including murder, against a group of people united on the basis of nationality.

By a court verdict, a Novgorodian was sentenced to 1 year 10 months in prison with a sentence in a maximum security penal colony.


Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2022

That is not what I asked for. I asked for the mildest statement by the accused who would later be sentenced for making that statement.

What you cited is a press report, not what he said.

For example, if I post: I hate Muslim refugees and I wish they would just all die and go to hell do I urge Internet users to carry out extremist activities, namely to commit violent acts against people of non-Slavic nationality, calls for hostile actions, including murder, against a group of people united on the basis of nationality.?

Or am I still OK according to your penal code?

Velund
6 Dec 2019  #2023

am I still OK

You are on the edge. But if you rephrase as "They should be killed and go to hell", it will be application for a free trip to a sunny (but not so hot) Magadan. ;)

johnny reb
6 Dec 2019  #2024

What are the magic words in 2019 to get what you want ?
I'm offended !

Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2025

Or: Gimme your wallet or I will blow your fu*cking head off!
The magic words to justify your failure: America is still racist and sexist.
But what about Obama? Obama was elected for his white part and in spite of the other half. Racist!!!!

johnny reb
6 Dec 2019  #2026

Hunter Biden's lawyer abruptly quit on Monday after the former Vice President's son and "Ukraine energy expert" failed to show up for a child support hearing regarding his out of wedlock child with a D.C. stripper from Arkansas.

Hunter is being sued for $11,000 in legal fees, plus child support payments after a DNA test revealed he was the father.
Hunter was ordered, by the Judge, to provide at least three years of tax returns before he could reach a decision on monetary support for the child.

Biden has requested that his financial records be sealed to avoid public 'embarrassment' over claims of 'significant debts'.
Now that is just rich for the mere sake to hide evidence of his fathers Joe Biden's wrong doings and lies in Ukraine.
Of course, Hunter's financial records could also reveal the extent of payments received while sitting on the board of Burisma, which paid his consulting firm $83,333 per month while Hunter had ZERO experience in gas and oil.

And you think Poland's politicians are corrupt !

Dirk diggler
6 Dec 2019  #2027

But if you rephrase as "They should be killed and go to hell",

Well thank God America doesn't have such laws. Short of yelling fire in a crowded room or explicit death thraets to a single individual, you can publicly wish death on any group you wamnt

Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2028

You and I would be serving long sentences in that paradise called Europe.

I hate Muslim refugees and I wish they would just all die and go to hell

Or maybe I have been wrong all along?
So, Euros, is that quoted sentence above legal in the UK, France and Germany?

johnny reb
6 Dec 2019  #2029

Truly amazing.
Without much net worth to speak of when obama entered office in January of 2009, Obama is said now to be worth a cool $70 million.
And you think Poland's politicians are corrupt.

Joker
6 Dec 2019  #2030

Obama is said now to be worth a cool $70 million.

How did he acquire so much wealth on a $400K per year salary? Must of had good investment advice! LOL

Hunter Biden's lawyer abruptly quit on Monday

\Lets cross our fingers for a trial in the Senate and see these crooks like Biden and Adam Shitt collapse on the stand.

Obama was elected for his white part and in spite of the other half. Racist!!!!

8 years of Obozo and he did absolutely nothing for the black community ( except for Obamaphones) which was a cheap way to buy votes just before the election. Trump has done more in 3 years and it poised for a massive landslide re election. This is why they're are soooo desperate for impeachment, they know they can't beat him fairly.

Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2031

Amazing but all legit. I read the linked article and found nothing corrupt as majority of what they earned was after he was no longer president. If you want to blame somebody it would be the naive suckers who would pay 400 gees per speech, the Netflix with its viewers, and the leftists who buy those stupid books only to display them as a proof of their progressiveness.

standard.co.uk/insider/alist/barack-and-michelle-obama-net-worth-2019-how-much-is-the-former-us-president-worth-along-with-his-a4178561.html

Trump has done more in 3 years and it poised for a massive landslide re election.

I hope you are right, but I am not that optimistic after reading how the suburbs, just as Texas, turn purple. We also may be suffering from the Trump fatigue and him being constantly in the news for the wrong reasons.

Add to this the prospect of expanding our military presence near Iran, runaway deficits he never vetoes, the wall that never happened, and that vote in November may not be so sure.

johnny reb
6 Dec 2019  #2032

​The Speaker of the House !
COMPLETELY UN-believable.
What baloney she can spew-out; after her press conference yesterday, saying she doesn't "hate the President, because I'm Catholic !"
OH, o.k. Nancy if you say so.

Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2033

...who supports abortion after birth. How do I know that? Easy. Obongo, when he was a senator in Illinois, loved the idea of killing the kid again if he survived the first attempt on his life. The bit*ch knew it and never found it in conflict with her morals. But, a call to a corrupt country - oh my God, that is a threat to the human existence as we know it, and, of course, "our democracy", the most corrupt version of it on mother earth.

I only wish she would extend the extermination period to 90 and aborted herself. I would pay to watch it.

On an unrelated subject of foreigners...As soon as I detect foreign accent, I end immediately with: I don't talk to foreigners. Bye.
I just did five minutes ago.

johnny reb
6 Dec 2019  #2034

Lyzko is always banging on about old Teddy being the best president ever.
Have you ever heard how Teddy felt about Immigrants ?

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American ... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

WTF happened in the last (three generations) 112 years ?

Rich Mazur
6 Dec 2019  #2035

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

Period.
To all of you with hyphens, take it and ....

Dirk diggler
7 Dec 2019  #2036

WTF happened in the last (three generations) 112 years ?

You really need to ask that? That answer is obvious.

Rich Mazur
7 Dec 2019  #2037

WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. law enforcement officials were digging into the background of the suspected Florida naval station shooter Friday, to determine the Saudi Air Force officer's motive and whether it was connected to terrorism.

Quit digging. That pos was a Muslim who hated the US. A rare combination, indeed. Duh!

Other US law enforcement officials, after years of intensive research, finally concluded that a vast majority of illegals crossing the US borders speak Spanish and that black "youths" are 17 times more likely to murder than whites.

johnny reb
7 Dec 2019  #2038

You really need to ask that? That answer is obvious.

You mean there wouldn't be any "Afro-Americans", Euro-Americans or "Hispanics" anymore ?

Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

OORAH !

Rich Mazur
7 Dec 2019  #2039

Euro-Americans

There is no such thing as "Euro-Americans". Only "whites" who should feel nothing but guilt and shame for being white.

On the other hand, to the "African-Americans", their black skin is a source of extreme pride and the reason to be admitted, hired or promoted ahead of everybody else.

Can I get melanin injections to make me feel better?

cms neuf
7 Dec 2019  #2040

Maybe you can go and get some of those sedative injections Putin gave that poor woman when her husband drowned on his rusty submarine.

That way you could spend your Saturday night in a stupor rather than the usual routine of provocative race hate for low wages.


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