USA News and Poland - Part 2

Just wanted to make sure as you seemed very attached to the idea of a beating heart

....and for a very good reason...If the end of life is marked by the heart stopping, then the beginning of life is marked by the heart beating.

Just because the heart owner is optically invisible - but is visible by other means - does not make it less of a human than Lenka.

If you have a problem with this concept, please explain the basics that differentiate a child five minutes before birth and the same child five minutes after the birth. Skip that part about breathing on its own and awareness.

Many adults in a coma can't so they breath aided by a machine and are unaware. If you were to pull the plug, it's premeditated murder. Don't do it.

@Lenka
O.k. I will take the time to explain it to you so you will have no doubt.
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Post #2178


Lyzko has now lost that debate so he does one of his infamous re directs.
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But it does and he knows it and just wants to argue since he has already lost the debate.
See how he switched the debate of abortion to ONLY Infanticide which is the intentional killing of infants.
That is why I posted that:


That baby is a living being both inside and outside the womb with a beating heart.
Are ya tracking here Lenka ?
Now go back and re read the thread where Lyzko merely interjected his opinion to bash Trump to have someone to argue with all day.

If you have any other questions for me about it just please P.M. me with them as Lyzko will try to show his genius again and keep arguing this moot subject to death driving it into the ground.

Like Rich and a few others, I have no time for him anymore.

In that situation early abortion is ok as there is no beating heart.


What I mean is that you shoot yourself in the foot by the beating heart argiment. If that's the determining issue then a women has few good weeks before to have an abortion.

As I have no mote interest in this thread- bye.

Debating Lyzko is like trying to nail jello to the wall. Cannot be done and you feel like sh*it trying.


I will debate this abomination, Roe v. Wade, with anyone and win in less than five Q and A cycles. How this legal bullsh*it survived for so long is a real miracle and should be a source of shame to the legal profession forever. Especially that the vote was 5 to 4, which means that just one legal a-hole decided the future of the United States. Even Stalin didn't have this much power over the USSR.


This is where we are in a very gray area. The strict pro-life side has a big medical and legal problem - morality and religion aside - claiming that a just-fertilized egg deserves the same legal protection as a ready-to-be-born baby. Especially, if the case involves a crime.

That is why the rule of 12 weeks seems most acceptable to the majority.

Johnny, I'm talking medical, scientific facts, or, as Henry Drummond aka Clarence Darrow asked Matthew Harrison Brady aka William Jennings Bryan on the stand in INHERIT THE WIND, "SO you don't believe in natural law either...you know, Mr. Brady, it's frightening to think about a man of your conviction!"

Some go even further- besides the group that considers any sperm lost during masturbation a problem you also have quite big group that has a problem with morning after pill which main purpose is to stop the ovulation so the egg doesn't get fertilized ( the secondary effect of stopping fertilized egg from implementation being the main cause)

Whether someone believes it's a sin doesn't bother me.

Again, you are right. Working at the extremes of any scale does not produce good results.

If there was no abortion can you imagine how many more black teenagers there would be?

A moron on display...Quoting dnyuz.com:

"Until we can get some assurances from the majority leader that he is going to allow for a fair and impartial and trial to take place, we would be crazy to walk in there knowing he has set up a kangaroo court," Mr. Clyburn said Thursday morning on CNN, referring to Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader.

Hey, a-hole, Senate is a jury. That jury was already selected. No, you have no legal or moral right to demand from any jury the behaviour that will please the prosecutor, which would be you, you idiot. State your case, shut up, and sit down. The defense is not obligated to bring any witnesses or even argue back. Simple enough?

BTW, that fair and impartial applies to the defendant, not to the prosecutor. Duh!

In criminal cases isn't it a norm for both sides to kind of pick the jurors? I thought they have some choice?

Are you blonde ?
I took a lot of time in my post #2224 explaining in detail for you.
Why are you ignoring what I said ?


We weren't debating 'heart beat', You are.
You are trying to work 'heartbeat' into a debate that was about "infanticide" because you want to make YOUR point.


When sperm touches the egg there is actually a SPARK that has been recorded with the latest cutting edge technology.
That is when life begins.


Out of a pool that has been pre picked by the Court.
What people don't know is that in America the jury applicants are sorted out before they go into the courtroom to be picked as the sitting jury.

If it is a complicated case the "system" tries to put educated people in that jury pool to be picked.
If it is about some guy arrested for drunk driving for his fifth time and it is a slam dunk case the "system" sorts out and puts less educated people in the jury pool.

And YES, that is the way it works in America.

What most Americans don't know is what jury nullification is and what rights jurors have. When I went to ask that question, I was escorted out of the Rolling Meadows courthouse by two armed guards. The system hates that subject. BTW, I already knew the answer. I asked just to see them squirm.

They also refused to give me a copy of the oath. "We don't have it" was the lie.

You mentioned it, I just wanted to see how consistent you are.


So now a spark is life too...Wow.
Would you mind pointing me to that study? It sounds quite interesting.

And thank you for confirming that for me.

I don't know where JR gets his "spark of life" idea from.
From my perspective, life begins at birth.
Yes, there is a strong argument to say life begins before birth too.
But how long before?
And when talking of the "rights" of an unborn child, how about remembering the "rights" of a raped or abused woman?

Rape - I am with you and the victim as long as she gets flush it out in a couple of days, not six months.

The abused woman argument does not connect in any form and shape with abortion. Like, he slaps her and, therefore, she gets an abortion?
Don't forget that women lie all the time in such matters - in addition to "he abused the kids" - and the guy cannot prove that he didn't. Today, women are very cunning using that "have to be trusted" bs. No, they don't. Evidence is the only thing that should be trusted.

Plus, what is "abuse"?

No, you are projecting again like you are famous for.
I said that there:


Your projecting game is over love.


No I will not waste my time on you.
You can do your own homework and Google it for yourself.

....quoting any famously bad teacher in school, who, rather than explain, would send the poor kid to the library with the famous last words, "Look it up!"

:-)

A) majority of women have a rape fantasy. That is fact. Its likely due to all the beta males and the globo homo run by shlomo brainwashing propoganda that men are scared to hit on a hot girl at a bar or club. So now women miss getting that attention that previous generations experienced bc modern males have become beta cucks. Most the rapes that are reported now are by drunken thots who regret sleeping with some dude they otherwise wouldnt have if they were sober and are now trying to save face. If it was some hunk shed be boasting about it to her friends.

B) if a woman gets abused more than once shes an idiot. Theres plenty of resources and shelters specifically for abused women. If theyre still sticking around then theyre just simply dumb.

Exactly. When I hear this "but I love him" after years of daily beatings, verbal abuse, and the "rapes", I see red and have zero sympathy.

After all, how much is a damn bus ticket?

A majority of men have control issues, Dirk. This is called being an alpha male as opposed to a Phi Beta Capa!
LOL

I see so much negative sexual stereotyping in your post, I scarcely know where to start.

And what are stereotypes exactly? They are observations people make on a particular nationality, sex, race or other group due to repeated behaviors. Stereotypes exist because people continue to perpetuate them

Would you believe it, Trump's voter base is finally waking up. Just in from the evangelical magazine founded by the Rev. Billy Graham...

"'Profoundly immoral': Christianity Today asserts Trump 'should be removed from office'"

washingtonexaminer.com/news/profoundly-immoral-christianity-today-asserts-trump-should-be-removed-from-office

Memo to all of you Trump hating a-holes: The US Constitution says, "high crimes and misdemeanors", not grabbing pussies, farting in public, or calling people morons.

That means you have to commit a felony, or at least a crime, to be removed. Immorality is not a crime in "America", so cut the sh*it out.

The fascist Dems case is so weak that Pelosi is "Too Afraid" of turning over the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate! LOLOL

legalinsurrection.com/2019/12/mcconnell-dems-appear-too-afraid-to-hand-senate-their-shoddy-work-on-articles-of-impeachment

They don't have a snowballs chance in Hell of winning the election:):):)

I wonder if legally it means that he was not impeached. In the normal cases, the prosecutors can bullsh*it all day long back in their office, but as long as they don't go to the courthouse and file, the case does not exist!

I can't find it now, but a while back I wrote that the fascists will make a lot of noise but will not proceed with the trial. That's what is happening so far.

Nancy Pelosi became confused and refused to answer reporters questions today and wanted to talk about other issues instead. wtf??

Nancy Pelosi Comes Unglued In Press Conference - Refuses To Answer 'Republican Talking Points' Question On Impeachment
objectivist.co/2019/10/nancy-pelosi-comes-unglued-in-press-conference-refuses-to-answer-republican-talking-points-question-on-impeachment

I just want the world to see how dysfunctional these fascist Democrats behave in the USA..LOL

Republican talking points my ASS! She must have watched CNN before the meeting! Hahaha


This hoax has become a total failure and will only expose their lies if they dare go to trial.

Its totally hilarious, now she's trying to dictate what happens in the Senate. Just yesterday she was a constitutional scholar, but must of forgot to read where the Senate is not responsible for prosecuting the case.

It's seriously embarrassing to realize that the two most influential persons in the fascist party are an 80+ fossil with a trembling voice and the always puzzled face and a dumb brick with lipstick who not long ago was serving drinks to the drunks who would like to bang her.

And all the crocodile tears, its such a sad and solemn day:( The Dems and the msm really have burned that word out.



Everything about these fascists is fake!

CNN that they are being forced to pay airports to run their fake news propaganda disguised as news.
pacificpundit.com/2018/03/24/cnn-now-forced-to-pay-airports-to-broadcast-their-fake-news/

The Dems must have a severe case of buyers remorse. Since they are too afraid to submit the Articles of Impeachment and Pelosi wants the Senate to (clean up) or do the Houses work for them.

Blackmailing a foreign head of state to cough up some dirt about your political opponent in the next election falls into exactly what category? Grabbing P?