USA News and Poland - Part 2

So what?
1. Floridians were never asked if they want all those immigrants with their businesses, crime, overcrowding, and the cost of educating their many little immigrant bastards and incarcerating the immigrant criminals.

2. Immigrants are a net loss to the taxpayers.

3. Immigrants suppress the wages of the lower 80%.

4. There is no bidding among countries for immigrants.

Anything else you would like to know about the wonders of immigration?

The above is true for all countries - Poland included, so my post is about Poland.

"Floridians"? :)

Is that their correct name?

Yes, absolutely correct!

Nearly every US state has certain appelations for her citizens, e.g. "Floridians", "New Yorkers", "Pennsylvanians"," Michiganders", "Down Easterners"/"Mainers" etc. Similar to Germany, including dialect names, more though for cities than federal counties, e.g. "Berliner Pflanze", "Kieler Sprotte" etc...

:-)

Is this the only thing that caught your attention in my post?

@Rich
Well, it's not like you post anything new....It's the same thing over and over- don't expect people to master enthusiasm for that

Imagine "Berlinians" :)


...but that immediately!

For my german ear that sounds so...alien! Like something that is in your toothpaste..:)

It's the same for the Polish ear, too! Actually, I've never imagined that this is the case (except for the Texans). Of course, I've come across the name "New Yorker", but there is nothing strange about it. But Floridians? My God! This sounds trivially stupid for me.

On the other hand, I know a lot of Native American tribes' names in the US and where their territories are located. This seems pretty natural to me in contrast to the Non-Native American names like 'Floridians'. But in several instances, they are the same as is the case with Iowa which name describes a Native American tribe as well as is the name for a state.


But you have Saxons, Thueringians, Bavarians and so on ...

Yeah:)


Only in crazy English....in German it's:

Die Sachsen
Die Thüringer
Die Bayern

See...all normal and how it should be! :)

We also have some of those names in Polish: Sas (singular)-Sasi (plural) or Bawarczyk-Bawarczycy (old historical name: Bawar-Bawarowie). Othes like Turyngijczyk or Brandenburczyk would not be commonly used.

It may surprise you, but we still use Polish versions of some smaller German towns like 'Ratyzbona' (I, for example, frequently tend to forget its original German name: Regensburg) or Akwizgran (Aachen) or Fryburg Bryzgowijski, not to mention the names of East German towns.like Lipsk, Drezno, Chociebuż, Budziszyn, Żytawa.

Where does the polish "Sas" come from for the Sachsen/Saxons? It's abit short, isn't it....


Nah...totally normal....it's still Breslau for Wroclaw....or Danzig for Gdansk...

They wanted to go with reptilians, but that term is already reserved for the pos human garbage that rules the US from the bottomless swamp aka the DC.

I would look for the answer into the history. Since 'die Sachsen' is plural, what is this name in singular? If it is or once upon a time it was 'der Sachs' (I really don't know what it is or was, but there must have been be some singular form of that name!), then the name could have been assimilated to Polish in the Middle Ages as 'Saks' and then shortened to 'Sas'.

That would be:

Der Sachse (male)
Die Sächsin (female)

Do you have a "ch" in Polish?

Hahaha, I was just going to ask you about "ch" in German, but skipped it for the clarity of my last post. To explain 'ch' in Polish, I have to know about 'ch' in German first. The 'ch' in German has always been a problem for me. The 'ch' as in 'mädchen' doesn't exist in Polish at all. Our 'ch' seems to be the same as in "das Dach", but weaker. The problem I have is how you pronounce the 'ch' in "sechs" or "Sachsen"; is it the 'ch' as in 'das Dach' or is it 'k' as in 'Keiser'. I sometimes hear ch and sometimes k in 'sechs' or 'Sachsen'. On the other hand, I always hear 'k' in "wachsen". So 'ch' in German confuses me a lot.

The "ch" in "Mädchen" is really very soft....

The "ch" in "Dach" is already alot more throaty...

And the "ch" in "wachsen" is totally hard....as in the number "sechs" which is spoken like the "x" in the english "sex".

That's why in English it's Saxony and Saxon...our hard "ch" is their "x"! :)

So...you don't have an idea why the Poles forgot half of the word "Sachse", shortening it to just "Sas"?

"Berliners" is used in English, same for "Hamburgers", "Frankfurters" might be stretching things a bit though. People from Munich are NOT "Munichers", but simply, "inhabitants of Munich".

My students are taught to pronounce the "Ach-laut" in German initially almost as though they were clearing their throat, as compared to the tickle effect when pronouncing the "Ich-laut" in certain final "g-sounds":-) I have to pretend in front of the class that I'm at the doctor's and was just asked to say "Ahhh"

LOL

Are or were ? What students ?

To think people use to go to prison for smoking a joint and how far we have come.
CHICAGO - Customers spent almost $3.2 million on legal weed in Illinois on the first day of recreational marijuana sales Wednesday, marking one of the strongest showings of any state in the history of pot legalization.

Damn, after Nam (50 years ago) we tried to tell them that there was big money by taxing it for them but they just wouldn't listen.

Now look at the greedy bastards taxing the hell out of it.
The sh*t should be free since it is just a damn weed.
I wonder when Poland will catch on ?

The state depravity is best measured by how it gets its income. When the state relies on drug addiction and addiction to gambling instead of wealth creation, that state is no better that the gangbangers. What's next - legalized prostitution and the state as pimp so we can tax it?

Why not, it would make the house wives and girlfriends a little more understanding and forgiving.
Seriously though the drug addiction will always be there just like prostitution....legal or illegal.
May as well tax it and call it the poor mans tax.

Until they realize that they need medical attention because their "man" dipped his manhood in a contaminated jar.

Like that doesn't already happen.
Job security Rich.

So will murders and rapes.
How about the state of Illinois taxing those? Like this: if you pay X, then the Y years the jury gave the pos is reduced to Y/Z - where Z is a number greater than 1 and proportional to the amount paid by the perp. You know, murders and rapes will always be with us so why not get some dough from it - for the anger management clinics, of course.

Actually that is kind of how it already works.
How many rich kids to you see doing any serious time ?

@Rich Mazur

That is how the system here works for pleas and bench trials. And trust me, I know for personal experience.

Oh, I trust you and I am not being naive. Just playing the role of a legalizer - like with the drugs.
I am just following the logic that if it's already happening, why not make it legal and official. On that basis, the corrupt crap we already have happening in the courthouses, once the corruption it is legalized, the state can at least regulate it and tax it. I guess this is the logic of legalizing the health destroying stupidity.

Personally, if they taxed a pack or a bottle a grand per, I would have no objections since I don't smoke or drink. I like myself just the way I am.

The people voted on it and legalized weed so no more humiliation.
If the vote were taken on legalizing corruption I doubt that would pass.


Reality has always been for people who can't handle drugs.

There are two kinds of people - morons and the rest. The easiest way to detect a moron is by asking if he or she ever said the following sentence: I started because I was curious and I knew I could quit anytime.

@BB
Thanks for all the explanations of yours.


In Polish we also have this in the name of the country: Saksonia (Sachsen) rather than Sasonia. Btw, there are several proverbs and sayings in Polish that refer to this country and its people like: od Sasa do Lasa; za króla Sasa jedz, pij i popuszczaj pasa; pierdoła saska, jeździć na saksy.


No one knows for sure. The very competent PWN dictionary says that initially there existed two forms in Polish: Sakson and Sas, but over time only the latter, shorter one survived, probably because of tendency to language economy.

Anyway, the form "Sas" is present today in historical contexts only. If people were asked for the name of a contemporary inhabitant of Saxony, I'm sure they would choose the name "Saksończyk".

One thing in connection with Saxony that disturbs me is this. Isn't it strange that the original territory where Saxons lived is called today 'Lower Saxony"? Since it had appeared first on the map, shouldn't it be called "Saxony", whereas its younger sister could have been named "Upper Saxony" instead? Any idea why it is so?

*nods* That would fit....but that history with "Sas" is fascinating!

There is maybe only one trace to follow left...."Sassenach"!

"Sassenach adj. and n. English; an English person. Sassenach is derived from the Scottish Gaelic word sasunnach, literally meaning 'Saxon'...!

Maybe the polish "Sas" is an abbrevation of the scottish "Sassenach" as ex-Saxons?

I had to google that myself...it seems that this name was already thought about 700 years back...to name the old region of the Saxons, but they wandered into the regions of today "Sachsen" and "Sachsen-Anhalt"....so, to differentiate between the settlements the old region got named "Niedersachsen" and the new region got named "Obersachsen" because it was higher up in the mountains.

But the modern Bundesland "Niedersachsen" didn't exist till 1946 and got named that way after WWII by the Brits....they made more or less a fact out of what had been only a verbally passed on naming for the Saxons in the lower and higher regions of Germany.

PS: Googling brought on another possible explanation for the polish "Sas":

In much earlier times the Saxons called themselves "Sasnotas"...in old middle high german. Now here I can see a shortening to "Sas", especially in a historical context....

I think we found the answer! :)