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USA News and Poland - Part 3



Vesko Vukovic
31 May 2020  #541

youtu.be/90G_QdxqqJs

What an explanation by "brotha" Cornell...

Pure b/s. Paid by Rockefeller money. Why are the rioters breaking into Alexander McQueen and stealing whatever they can get? Why destroy small businesses, that people have been building for years?

Yes, the system has failed, the judiciary has failed... corruption is there at the highest levels, but that is not the reason why these rioters are breaking down and destroying, this is pure vandalism. They're far from peaceful protests and what this paid professor would say of the highest moral standards...

cms neuf
31 May 2020  #542

I though the troll factory was closed down due to lack of funds - the oil price and the ruble are both on the floor dude. You need to look for more work - hopefully something more fulfilling.

Vesko Vukovic
31 May 2020  #543

How is this post above related to the topic? The only troll here is you communist manifesto salesman, but don't you worry Shlomo, in order not to go off-topic here, I've got a brand new thread lined up just for those such as you. You can then go and complain to the mods all you like, but you will have nobody but yourself to blame as I am opening it in response to you and those like you, for your constant nagging, whining and pathetic attempts at derailing entire threads.

jon357
31 May 2020  #544

I see Trump now wants to send the army in

When that happens, it's an admission of failure.

presumably gun nuts would agree that the protesters have a right to use their own guns in self defense

They're the wrong colour to be able to defend themselves or have rights.

cms neuf
31 May 2020  #545

Is that the thread about the Air Jordans Vesko ? Yes - selling knock off adidasy is a good way for you to make a few kopeks.

johnny reb
31 May 2020  #546

Mind you he seems to have gone a few days without blaming this on Obama

obama is one of the biggest causes of this racial divide in this country as he did NOTHING for the Black people but add millions more of them to the welfare roll.

Trump took millions of Blacks off the welfare roll and put them to work so they could be independent from the grips of the Socialist slave owners.

Even the bias news media is interviewing Black leaders who are saying how wrong it is for this violence and looting.

- he has no respect from the governors or the law enforcement agencies.

We understand that you are a full fledged Democrat cms so I'll go slow for you while connecting the dots here for you.
Democratic governors of States with Sanctuary cities never have shown Trump any respect and if you noticed it is their cities that are burning and being looted.

THEY are the failures here moron, not Trump.

They're the wrong colour to be able to defend themselves or have rights.

Oh jon shut up and take your propaganda trolling elsewhere.
Maybe you could start with what gun rights the Brits have in your country to defend themselves when someone breaks into their home and rapes their daughter.

And please do us all a favor and put your reply in the British thread.

Bratwurst Boy
31 May 2020  #547

In what way have they mishandled it?

Interesting and very long/thorough article about that in the Guardian (and nobody could say the Guardian is Trump-friendly or WHO-hostile):

The WHO v coronavirus: why it can't handle the pandemic

theguardian.com/news/2020/apr/10/world-health-organization-who-v-coronavirus-why-it-cant-handle-pandemic

My personal summary: It's the new leader of the WHO, Tedros which changed the WHO to be China's stooge....

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.....Elected as WHO director general in July 2017, Tedros was supported by a bloc of African and Asian countries, including China, which has considerable influence with those members. (Tedros is himself from Ethiopia, where he served as health minister and then foreign minister between 2005 and 2016.) It was a "really nasty" election, said Davies, in which the powers that have traditionally shaped the WHO, such as the US, UK and Canada, lent their support to one of Tedros's rivals, the British doctor David Nabarro. During the campaign, Tedros was criticised for having served in a repressive government with a poor human rights record, and one of Nabarro's backers even accused Tedros of covering up a cholera epidemic during his time as health minister......

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This pandemia isn't the reason for this blunder, this blunder is a consequence of the WHO leadership....

Spike31
31 May 2020  #548

It's the new leader of the WHO, Tedros which changed the WHO to be China's stooge....

One of those rare occassions on which I agree with you completely

cms neuf
31 May 2020  #549

What on earth makes you think I am a Democrat - most of my values are similar to core Republican beliefs - low taxes, free market, free trade, being accountable for your own actions. What I do think is that all should have the same opportunity and there should be a welfare system that works for all people. Far from being leftist I think that is a plum center view.

Vesko Vukovic
31 May 2020  #550

this blunder is a consequence of the WHO leadership....

I'm glad that president Trump cut all the funding to this globalist organization. Hopefully arrests are to follow. Starting with Bill Gates and George Soros.

theconversation.com/coronavirus-why-we-should-be-sceptical-about-the-benevolence-of-billionaires-136448

thats the conspiracy theory that PiS is hiding coronavirus deaths

The people continuously writing such nonsense would like to have us almost believe that Poland is like North Korea and that chairman KaczyƄski is Kim Jong-un.

Whatever your opinion is of them, it can't be denied that the Polish government in introducing these tough restrictive measures had in their minds the lives of Polish citizens as their top priority unlike some Western so called democracies where money and the economy come first, and we're seeing the results of such policies.

theguardian.com/world/2009/may/31/new-york-billionaire-philanthropists

Joker
31 May 2020  #551

I'm glad that president Trump cut all the funding to this globalist organization.

The WHO is just another puppet for commie china. Im glad they wont receive one more penny from the USA either.

I hope Trump makes the travel ban permanent as well.

Joker
31 May 2020  #552

Democratic governors of States with Sanctuary cities

The progressive mayor of Minneapolis acts more like a high school kid than a public official. Hes clearly over his head and hasn't a clue how to run a city.

And please do us all a favor and put your reply in the British thread.

Brits dont like him either Johnny. Perhaps, we should create him an LBH expat thread and dump the trash there.

AntV
31 May 2020  #553

Yes, insomuch as grievous incidents like this and how they're dealt with are part of the public face of the whole police.

Yes, that's definitely true. But, it's a matter of perception. I thought we were talking about the amount and quality of training police receive here in the US.

It's very very far from being an isolated incident. It's a regular occurrence.

You don't know that. It's not a regular occurrence. There are about 800,000 cops in the US who respond to millions upon millions of service calls per year. The incidents of the type in Minneapolis are few and far between. If you listen to popular media, you may think it happens at least 1,000 times a day, but if you confer objective data, it's a different story.

"It would seem like" that only if you misread the post, deliberately or otherwise.

I may have misread it, but not deliberately. I don't want to misrepresent what you are saying; but, it does seem like you're making a point that more or better training will negate malfeasance. Again, I don't want to misrepresent you, so if you could clarify, I'd appreciate it.

Miloslaw
31 May 2020  #554

Brits dont like him either Johnny

What makes you think that?

jon357
31 May 2020  #555

It's not a regular occurrence

It keeps happening again and again. That certainly means it's a regular occurrence.

more or better training will negate malfeasance.

It's largely worked for us. Especially better training in control/restraint/breakaway techniques. That and better recruitment and tighter disciplinary policies.

Joker
31 May 2020  #556

It keeps happening again and again

Its just great entertainment for you as you already admitted. Its ok, someday the shoe will be on the other foot.

Heres some great news that Im sure all the leftie rioters will take notice!

Trump says he'll designate ANTIFA a terror organization, blames group for violence at George Floyd protests

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/31/george-floyd-protests-trump-antifa-terrorist-organization/5299766002/

Now they can be treated just the same as ISIS! Oh, Boy! Are the heads gonna roll now:):)

I hope George Soros has been giving money to these terrorists again, so we can swoop him up in the dragnet as well.

Now, thats what I call entertainment!

jon357
31 May 2020  #557

great entertainment

The great entertainment is watching Trumpet, if you actually read the post.

He's basically given up governing. I'm sure he'll enjoy his retirement.

johnny reb
1 Jun 2020  #558

Oh, Boy! Are the heads gonna roll now:):)

And Trump told the Guard to load their guns with live ammo as the rubber bullets that they have been using aren't getting Trumps point across.

I see they shot and killed a guy in Grand Rapids last night but no more details on it.
Wish Ptak was here to fill us in,

AntV
1 Jun 2020  #559

It keeps happening again and again. That certainly means it's a regular occurrence.

It does not keep happening again and again. The overwhelming number of cop involved shootings are justified. The unjustified ones are rare.

Something else to consider is that law enforcement agencies are independent of one another; however, states set requirements for law enforcement ent officers to become certified. On average those requirements entail 2100 hours of classroom, tactical, and physical fitness training during academy training, then another 500 hours of field officer training once a new cop graduates from academy.

It's largely worked for us. Especially better training in control/restraint/breakaway techniques

It's largely working here too. De-escalation is stressed in just about every law enforcement agency in America..

I understand how not only foreigners, but even Americans, have the perceptions they have; because, these types of things are never reported. If you base your perception on popular media you'd think cops only kill blacks. Reality is half of all folks killed by cops are white--that's fact, not perception.

Trump says he'll designate ANTIFA a terror organization, blames group for violence at George Floyd protests

Glad he did. These riots have nothing to do with the injustice done to Floyd. It's organized anarchy funded by Soros-type globalists and communists. Sounds like some kind of conspiracy theory, but its reality.

Here in my fair midwest city where riots broke out overnight, there appeared pallets of bricks in the "protest" area. No construction using bricks within a mile radius.

Tacitus
1 Jun 2020  #560

To be fair, American cops have a pretty stressful job. All police officers have to be careful, but in a country everybody can own a gun, I can only imagine how stessful a normal routine controle must be.

AntV
1 Jun 2020  #561

American cops have a pretty stressful job.

Good point. I'm sure cops in most, if not all, countries have stressful jobs.

in a country everybody can own a gun,

Not everyone can own a gun...at least, not legally.

Joker
1 Jun 2020  #562

have the perceptions they have; because, these types of things are never reported.

And the rubbish that does get reported is totally one sided and they never get the truth. He thinks he knows everything about the USA from tv and internet LOL, even after hes been proven wrong time after time. He also refuses to listen to any facts presented by actual Americans that live here.

It's organized anarchy funded by Soros-type globalists and communists

The stupid Dems claim everything is a conspiracy except their multitude of lies, slander and double standards...... Just wait until the indictments come from the DOJ, well see them all squeal on one another once they start going to jail:)

Its going to be a beautiful thing when Antifa is destroyed as well!

To be fair, American cops have a pretty stressful job.

Yes, it is. They really get a bad rap from the lefties especially after Obama divided the country along racial lines and totally disrecpted law enforcement.

Of course, there are a few bad apples in every bunch. Same goes for the UK, only they have been killing ppl for a lot longer!

Heres the same thing that happened in the UK, They strangulated a person and laughed about it on video..... Jon must have forgotten about this, yeah right!

1998: Christopher Alder died at the Queen's Gardens police station from Asphyxiation. He was arrested for breach of the peace at Hull Royal Infirmary. Footage of Christopher, lying handcuffed and half-naked on the floor of a police cell, surrounded by five officers making monkey noises is available online. An inquest returned a verdict of unlawful killing, but the five officers charged with manslaughter were acquitted.

Even after making racist monkey sounds, the brits cops only got a slap on the hand!

johnny reb
1 Jun 2020  #563

He also refuses to listen to any facts presented by actual Americans that live here.

That's because he drips with jealousy of Americans and hates us even more.
His defense is to provoke with his propaganda of what Americans stand against.

Jon must have forgotten about this, yeah right!

No jon remembers alright. jon just likes to come to the USA thread where we have almost 7000 posts and the dead European thread only has a 1000 posts.

He comes here with anti American posts just to troll with provoking post knowing what he is posting is merely wishful thinking on his part.

Ignore him and his b.s.

Crow
1 Jun 2020  #564

When that happens, it's an admission of failure.

Sending the army by Trump won't be an admission of failure. Why would it be?

Law is the law. If the police aren't enough, there is the army.

Plus, it would be wise if Trump increases the work of intelligence agencies. A deep state of the USA (ie Clintons, Obamas, etc different circles) using the opportunity to come to power in a creative way.

Miloslaw
1 Jun 2020  #565

From what I have seen and heard, most of the demonstraters have been pretty peaceful.

Most of the trouble and violence is caused by Antifa, you can spot them because they wear a type of "uniform", are usually armed with batons and are well organised.

There has been some trouble caused by The Boogaloo Boys too.
Both these groups are hijacking the justified demos for their own purposes, they don't care about the plight of black Americans at all.

Crow
1 Jun 2020  #566

Both these groups are hijacking the justified demos for their own purposes

Exactly.

Most of the trouble and violence is caused by Antifa, you can spot them because they wear a type of "uniform",

Deep state. Its `deep state`. Lost souls, deluded, paid mercenaries and among them satanists.

Miloslaw
1 Jun 2020  #567

Lost souls, deluded

Certainly.

Not sure about the paid mercenaries and satanists though........

Crow
1 Jun 2020  #568

You don`t expect Hillary, Bill, Obama, Soros, etc even much more powerful players in shadows will personally lead demo. No, they have their cults, fans, etc acolytes. They have ways to seize the human mind. And mercenaries are always at hand.

Crow
1 Jun 2020  #569

A few years ago > TO ALL > MUST SEE

The moment when Serbian FM Ivica Dacic approached US President Trump during the session of UN GA. He gave him a list (and complete files of Serbian intelligence agency) of those US magnates in shadows that have personal enterprises in the seceded Serbian province of Kosovo (energy and resources), all involved with US deep state that works against Trump and official USA administration, and at the same time works against Serbia. Serbian FM mentioned connection of those magnates to Islamic league and certain circles and politicians in western Europe. Its tale of total grabbing and pushing states to collapse, people in misery just for the well of few rich people.

Trump was shocked and then even entertained and Serbian FM was surprised that Trump doesn`t have that info that were by regular channels sent to the USA. Names on list amazed the Trump. Trump then thanked Serbian FM, gave the mobile phone numbers of his trusted associates, and asked for the continuation of full Serbian cooperation in the matter.

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You have it in the video here (open the article and click on video). It was a historical moment, a turning point never mentioned by global media (few assassination attempts on Serbian FM happened since then) > rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/9/politika/2874672/o-cemu-su-razgovarali-dacic-i-tramp.html

jon357
1 Jun 2020  #570

It does not keep happening again and again

It does. That is why their cities are burning.


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