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USA News and Poland - Part 3



Ironside
8 Nov 2020  #2611

you won't be aware of such facts.

what facts>? Those are not facts but made up nonsense.

cms neuf
8 Nov 2020  #2612

So I see the popular vote gap is still growing - and probably going to end up around 7m. It's not the 10-12m I predicted but it's still one of the largest in history

pawian
8 Nov 2020  #2613

and probably going to end up around 7m.

Yes, but rightards will rabidly play the trumpet about falsified results for ever. It will become a new religion for them - like Smoleńsk assassination myth for PiS in Poland. I see rightards are the same morally corrupt losers everywhere - we must do everything to contain them.

cms neuf
8 Nov 2020  #2614

A few of their court cases have been dismissed but I really hope Crazy Rudy's court appearance in Philly is on TV - he is the funniest thing on prime time at the moment

pawian
8 Nov 2020  #2615

Crazy Rudy's

Rudy in Polish means red-haired. Is he?

johnny reb
9 Nov 2020  #2616

Nothing changes around here, does it?

Nope, you always seem to surface sooner or later just like a turd in a punch bowl.

apart from the fact that he WILL respect President Biden

Naw, Jim doesn't respect guys like you and pervert Biden that go around smelling small children.
Remember when Pervert Biden pushed the woman up against the wall in the hall and inserted his fingers in her ?
Remember when you claimed Polish children stink ?
Remember those allegations about perv joe ?
In your case they weren't allegations as you blatantly admitted it.
The news media mob buried that story about perv joe, until now, to remind the morons what they voted for.

washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-remember-the-fingers-former-neighbor-of-biden-sexual-assault-accuser-corroborates-allegation

Velund
9 Nov 2020  #2617

New logo for US elections system. ;)

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johnny reb
9 Nov 2020  #2618

Great one Velund as that is exactly what happened.
There is no denying that fact.

Vesko Vukovic
9 Nov 2020  #2619

youtu.be/OKzw9zABVIE

Sydney Powell, of Donald Trump's Legal Team - President Trump will not allow Antifa to come to power. What kind of future would he and his family have in such a state? This is why Donald Trump will not concede. The courts will have the final say.

johnny reb
9 Nov 2020  #2620

Excellent find Velund !
Tells exactly how they cheated.

Vesko Vukovic
9 Nov 2020  #2621

For those who love math. Benford's Law portrayed in the film with Ben Affleck.

youtu.be/qdMo4ZnTyNs

Applied on the results of these elections:
gnews.org/534248/

mafketis
9 Nov 2020  #2622

I'm not up on statistics enough to follow all the arguments, but his guy seems to think that at the very least the vote count in Milwaukee was very, very unusual, a massive statistical outlier? or fraud? some combination of both? he carefully doesn't say out right that fraud was involved but the numbers are..... unusual

twitter.com/shylockh/status/1325120312455749634

Vesko Vukovic
9 Nov 2020  #2623

The deep state would stop at nothing this time in order for their candidate to be positioned in the White House. They couldn't afford to allow Trump to win again as he did in 2016. They have no contempt whatsoever for the American people.

Now we can clearly see that the "deadly pandemic" Covid-19 was unleashed just before the US presidential elections to prevent as many people as possible from voting in person out of fear of being infected, so that the theft by mail-in ballots could be perfected. The real target of operation coronavirus was to prevent Donald Trump from getting a second 4 year term in office.

cms neuf
9 Nov 2020  #2624

But those differences are easily explained and in fact Trump increased his votes in Milwaukee compared to 2016 problem is that Biden did much better than Hillary which is kinda to be expected - he had more appeal in the part of the country and won back many whites to the democrats, including a good share of Milwaukee's PolAm population.

But Parian is right - this will be a Smolensk event for triggered right wingers for a decade to come

delphiandomine
9 Nov 2020  #2625

some combination of both?

In a hurry now, so I'll look over it properly later - but IMO, everything I've seen and read about the voting process is that it's very bipartisan. If there was any real fraud, it would have been reported immediately to top RNC lawyers - who would have been waking judges out of their beds to issue emergency rulings. There's no way that Republicans would have let dodgy things happen in hardcore Democrat areas without it being reported within minutes,

What seems more likely here is that there's a total mess with how voting is organised. That guy alludes to this - that there seems to be different methods of counting votes in different areas, so it's impossible to tell how votes were counted in which order. I wonder if it's also possible that postal ballots were arranged in a way as to the likelihood of them being red or blue votes based on the address that they came from?

Again IMO though - I think the US should be looking at a mandatory federal ID that *has* to be used in elections. If a vote goes in via a postal ballot, then it should be mandatory for the signature to match the one on the ID.

Still, I think it would be better to question what Trump did wrong, given that the Republicans had a good night in general.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2020  #2626

Still, I think it would be better to question what Trump did wrong,

That's the thing...I read he got the best election result for a republican candidate EVER!!!

He only lost in one voter group, the white men, everywhere else he topped 2016....so, you could say he did everything right!

As I see it after such a result the "Trump-base" in the Republican Party is strengthened, as it should be the Dems who should ask themselves how it could be that they very nearly bungled it again....

cms neuf
9 Nov 2020  #2627

Biden has a lower share of black men than any previous democrat and did much worse than expected with Katinos - in fact Latinos saved Texas And Florida for Trumo.

That's a good thing - voters should be treated as individuals with individual desires and needs.

mafketis
9 Nov 2020  #2628

Biden has a lower share of black men than any previous democrat

The Trump presidency was far better economically for US Blacks than Obama (or W or Clinton) it should be remembered that identity politics groups (like BLM) have no way of ever improving economic conditions for the groups they claim to advocate for... (if anything BLM's de facto support of black lawlessness and gangs makes things far worse for most Blacks who are the primary victims of black violence).

But that's the goal, the new Silicon valley oligarchs want a small ethnically diverse elite and everyone else impoverished and on their own. Silicon valley models scale very poorly up to the national level but that's ultimately what this election was about - rule by the people and elections or by West coast digital oligarchs.... so far the oligarchs are winning.

voters should be treated as individuals with individual desires and needs.

Not gonna happen, look for more identity grievance politics and for tech oligarchs to play a bigger and bigger role in decision making....

delphiandomine
9 Nov 2020  #2629

He only lost in one voter group, the white men, everywhere else he topped 2016....so, you could say he did everything right!

I think he simply didn't understand what he was dealing with. Both parties have access to incredible analytics, and he should have seen the writing on the wall in 2018 with respects to the suburban voters that were disgusted by him. Had he stopped picking fights with everyone and put together a genuine bipartisan committee to take on Covid-19, he would have won the election. Instead, he made a fool out of himself time and time again, just as the crucial suburban voters were making up their minds.

I read one interview by a Republican who said that this election confirms that America is a centre-right country, and I'd agree with that. You only have to look at the success that white conservative (but not Trumpist) women had in this election - IMO, the Republicans wouldn't go wrong by putting up someone like Obama (but blonde, white and female) in 2024.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2020  #2630

Agreed!

But I think it could be even more interesting if they put up a conservative Hispanic/Latino. Someone the white conservatives (and even Trumpists) could rally behind too. What a numerical alliance that would be!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/u-s-hispanic-population-surpassed-60-million-in-2019-but-growth-has-slowed/

Where would that leave the Democrats? And BLM for that matter?

delphiandomine
9 Nov 2020  #2631

Where would that leave the Democrats?

Huge, huge question. A Hispanic/Latino could do huge damage to the Democrats, especially if they had solid evangelical ideals. But then, the question is whether over the Trumpists would support such a candidate - they already got quite hysterical over other candidates speaking foreign languages.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2020  #2632

But then, the question is whether over the Trumpists would support such a candidate

That's the question!

johnny reb
9 Nov 2020  #2633

The question is how long will it will be before Biden starts a war for paybacks to his buddies on Wall Street that supported him 4:1.

mafketis
9 Nov 2020  #2634

whether over the Trumpists would support such a candidate - they already got quite hysterical over other candidates speaking foreign languages

English plays a different role in the US than in the UK - a common language* is traditionally one of the (very) few things holding a large, very varied country together, weakening it is like pulling half the screws out of a table, it'll still stand for a while but it'll be wobbly...

Trump appealed to people who want a country rather than a glorified facebook page... the winning policies aren't hard but the party establishment (in both parties) is determined to not let a candidate through who wants

- improve infrastructure
- support manufacturing
- get control of the borders
- get control of the corrupt medical insurance criminal racket (and the pharmaceutical criminal racket)
- return education to being about learning things rather than social experiments
- repurpose the military to be about domestic defence rather than insane middle eastern facultative wars... (like Iraq and if Biden has anything to say about it... Iran).

Trump touched on some of those which is why the establishment hated him (he was crap about carrying them out but he did a few things, although hampered by his blindspot regarding Ivanka and her horrible mole husband).

*a great achievement in the US is the creation of a really neutral national standard (General American English) that anyone regardless of region or race or social class can use (often alongside more regional versions) AFAIK all varieties in the UK are heavily marked for place or class and code-switching between varieties doesn't seem to be a thing

delphiandomine
9 Nov 2020  #2635

but the party establishment (in both parties) is determined to not let a candidate through who wants

Yes, for all the teasing I'm doing of our friends here, it does seem very clear that there's a... how would you say it, an informal agreement between both parties not to rock the boat too much. I can completely understand where Trump came from - Clinton offered a bland vision of the future, and his rivals in the primaries weren't much different. I actually had some hope in the beginning that he would introduce sanity in some respects, like reorientating the military machine to focus on defence, but he seemed to get bogged down in pointless disputes and mud-slinging.

His foreign policy was actually very sane from an American perspective if you ask me, particularly the 'defend American interests at all costs and be unashamed about doing it' - but then he ruined it by getting involved in stupid arguments with Germany and others. It's the same with the Middle East - his way of doing things was working, but then he made that insane decision to abandon the Kurdish forces in Syria.

AFAIK all varieties in the UK are heavily marked for place or class and code-switching between varieties doesn't seem to be a thing

In England, yes - but in Scotland for instance, if you accept Scots as being a dialect of English, then I can code-switch between the version of Scots that I speak and Standard Scottish English effortlessly. I think it's a separate language though, so I wouldn't call it code-switching ;)

mafketis
9 Nov 2020  #2636

. I think it's a separate language though, so I wouldn't call it code-switching ;)

Code-switching can be between dialects or between languages, so... it's code-switching...

While here, are the proposed 'hate-speech' laws in Scotland as insane as I keep reading? - where speech said in one's home (if judged by the government to be 'hate-speech' can be punished?) what's up with that?

johnny reb
10 Nov 2020  #2637

Now to get back on topic everybody.............

I think that Biden will be far less toxic in international relations than Trump.

No doubt about that which will cost America even more jobs.
One of his first take aways from Trump will be that Biden pledges to rejoin Paris climate agreement on day one of presidency.
In the first place America has already cut our CO2 emissions by more than most all the other countries combined.
Second. it will make the United States impossible to compete on the world market while China and a lot of other countries are still building coal burning plants as fast as they can.

Joey ain't the brightest bulb in the box but he is less toxic while selling America out.
Trump put America first while joey puts joey first.

Crow
10 Nov 2020  #2638

Now to get back on topic everybody.............

You sow it. He pulled me for the tongue.

it will make the United States impossible to compete on the world market

What you expect? Circles behind Biden are friends with Islamic league.

Vesko Vukovic
10 Nov 2020  #2639

New logo for US elections system. ;)

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johnny reb
10 Nov 2020  #2640

Circles behind Biden are friends with Islamic league.

One of Bidens first things is to open up our borders back up to Muslim immigration again after President Trump closed them after he saw the cluster fck in Europe by these animals.

joey ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Fraud is right and confirmation of them are rolling in now.
Just wait until I post about the story behind the voting machines connected to the Crooked Hillary Foundation.
Unbelieveable.
And here in Michigan TRENDING: HUGE EXCLUSIVE: Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel Sends Cease and Desist Order to Journalist Demanding He Erase His Detroit Leaks Video Showing Voter Fraud Training -- OR FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION !

This sht is just starting to get good and shuting the mouths of the twits that wanted immediate confirmation of fraud with evidence.
Well the evidence is rolling in by the tons with all these glitches in Bidens favor.
Check this confirmed 'glitch' out.

thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/captured-real-time-moment-virginia-


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