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USA News and Poland - Part 4



jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1921

You seem to be under the illusion that any state can dictate Poland anything,

You seem to be under the illusion that I said something I didn't. Straw men arguments don't work.

Poland learned her lesson in 1700's

That approach shows an extreme naïveté about the way geopolitics works. And how any responsible state might respond to the current petulant behaviour from the regimes in Hungary and Poland.

Crow
12 Feb 2021  #1922

You got that one right

Trump had a vision of making the USA great in a Multi-Polar World, no matter competition. States could lead the world no matter increased sovereignism and even exactly with more sovereignism in a world where differences do not mean War, where differences mean good and progress. In such a world conditions for real solidarity could be created. Reconciliation.

But Biden chooses to follow Democrats, the logic of the Clinton era. He wants States to dictate and erase differences, to be a tool of the globalists. Very very sad.

Mr Grunwald
12 Feb 2021  #1923

@jon357
I see, so only direct literal communication with you jon? I'll try and remember

Joker
12 Feb 2021  #1924

@Mr Grunwald

It could be sleep deprivation, hes been on here around the clock for weeks now.

Nothing new for these trolls obsessing about our country.

Strzelec35
12 Feb 2021  #1925

"But Biden chooses to follow Democrats, the logic of the Clinton era. He wants States to dictate and erase differences, to be a tool of the globalists. Very very sad."

It isn't not that sad man. If you think about it trump was just a Poland enabler. To enable Poland to wash away its sins in the holocaust for example and to allow it to continue to taunt Russia and Putin with immunity saying **** like built trump base here etc to stroke trumps maglomania and ego. but Biden can hold Poland accountable and make them eat **** or their own words.

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1926

I see, so only direct literal communication with you jon? I'll try and remember

Obtuse as ever.

President Biden has a lot on his plate, and Poland is not the navel of the world. There are other far more pressing issues on this continent.

And the current regime did after all deliberately snub him, a clear diplomatic signal that will colour relations until they apologise (something Poles are not known for) or he goes or they do.

Strzelec35
12 Feb 2021  #1927

as long as they quit trying to be some regional power or something they're not and bait Putin into taking them over while acting like the little kid ******* brother with a big brother or NATO behind him while he is baiting they should be fine.

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1928

bait Putin into taking them over while acting like the little kid

Make no mistake, Putin has already gamed the various outcomes and strategies and already has his right wing pawns in place and ready to act in both countries.

Joker
12 Feb 2021  #1929

There are other far more pressing issues on this continent.

Then why dont you focus on Europe's problems instead of being consumed by what happening in the USA day after day.

If you spent 1/2 the time that you do on this thread and applied it to European issues, perhaps someone might take you seriously?

All youre doing here is spreading conspiracy theories.

Strzelec35
12 Feb 2021  #1930

Hey Crow and John check this out:

youtu.be/jM4XZykIiGs

" Then why dont you focus on Europe's problems instead of being consumed by what happening in the USA day after day."

the bigger question is why are Americans so oblivious to European or world global issues and are so consumed by their own issue and country not knowing what goes on beyond it? Also why are they so focused on racism toxic masculinity and feminism constantly there? and gang ****?

Crow
12 Feb 2021  #1931

If you think about it trump was just a poland enabler. To enable poland to wash awqy its sins in the holocaust for example

Even before Trump Poland was in the problem of being a member of the EU and NATO. Before Trump Poland blindly followed the EU and NATO. Things changed. A lot of. Poland now doesn't give a sh** for EU and NATO complaints and holds alive air-bridge (in its air-space) between Russia and Serbia for weaponry shipments. Poland tries to balance and doing it fine.

Mr Grunwald
12 Feb 2021  #1932

@jon357
Obtuse describes me perfectly well, got it from my mothers side. Which is why I prefer to be silent, not that many posts. Mostly reading

One of my worst sides

I agree Andrzej Duda should apologize, it would lead to a huge leap for Konfederacja tho. Don't think you want that honestly tho, it would mean PiS would focus more on gaining voters from the left and giving Konfederacja more political power.

So Biden gotta act otherwise, Poland will only turn more right

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1933

I agree Andrzej Duda should apologize

He'd lose face diplomatically. Better to look for a careful step by step solution.

So Biden gotta act otherwise, Poland will only turn more right

Yes. The elephant in the room is Putin.

Mr Grunwald
12 Feb 2021  #1934

@jon357
We will see how the elephant handles an clear opposition. If Putin recognizes Navalny as an opponent not to be touched (kind of late for that now, even tho letting him go won't have the same magnetude of effect) it would positively surprise Poland, Ukraine, Baltic states. Lead Belarus to an inner crises and shock and jaw dropping reactions from the west. If the Russian Federation is able to show maturity of that level despite Navalnys goals/connections.

It would shift things dramatically

Crow
12 Feb 2021  #1935

It would shift things dramatically

Think this way. Whatever may shift things dramatically would happen, because the shift is necessary. What can't shift things dramatically won't happen. These times are for that.

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1936

the Russian Federation is able to show maturity of that level

I suspect we'll be waiting a long time for that.

And of course they've gamed all possible outcomes more effectively than the Poles and probably the Americans too.

Mr Grunwald
12 Feb 2021  #1937

Oh and @joker
Don't worry I am doing fine, just trying to be gentle that's all. Don't want to scare them off now want we? :)

@jon357
Probably yeah, he himself admitted there isn't a thing called former KGB

I just wonder if they are able to play with their opposition better then U.S.A did with Trump going off, cause man if they ever had a chance to impress. That moment is now, I honestly think they will just continue doing same old, same old. One is allowed to hope right?

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1938

I just wonder if they are able to play with their opposition

They tolerate a small fake opposition, rather like the PRL.

One is allowed to hope right?

Indeed. Putin won't live forever. The big question is whether whatever comes after will be better or worse.

johnny reb
12 Feb 2021  #1939

however Russia is quiet at the moment

War monger Xiden will change that real soon.
The U.S. is likely sending the B-1B bombers to Norway (first time ever) to let Russia know the Mr. Biden administration will take a tougher line against Russian activities than Teflon Trump's administration did.

Little joe said the deployment sends a strong message that the new U.S. presidential administration will push back against Russian aggression.
J.R. says boasting about such a deployment is nothing more than bullying Putin by kicking a sleeping dog with war mongering.

Putin won't live forever.

Neither will dementia joe which would move Kamala to president and crazy Nancy to vice president running the U.S.
God forbid !

jon357
12 Feb 2021  #1940

Biden administration will take a tougher line against Russian activities

Good.

Kamala to president and ... Nancy to vice president

President Harris will be excellent, together with Vice President Cortez or Vice President Omar.

Strzelec35
12 Feb 2021  #1941

this is some deep state **** guys.

Crow, wat u fink?
bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55582886

Mr Grunwald
12 Feb 2021  #1942

Nancy Pelosi is deeply hated by the right wingers, as far as I have understood in the U.S...
I don't know about Kamala, but putting Pelosi on any high position is a guaranteed declaration of war. Like putting that Alaskan lady which was deeply unpopular in her time, was it around G.W Bush?

Poloniusz
12 Feb 2021  #1943

Nancy Pelosi is deeply hated by the right wingers, as far as I have understood in the U.S...

There are signs of hope and change. At least in California where Pelosi represents San Francisco.

The Democrats have a total stranglehold on politics in California. Their governor Gavin Newsom is a Democrat and he is so woke and so hypocritical that there is a petition with currently 1.5 million signatures gathered to have him removed from office. He is so bad that even millions of libtards who voted for him now want him gone. Californians need to do the same with Pelosi because she is too entitled, too condescending, too demented, and too evil to ever even think of doing the honorable thing and resign.

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2021  #1944

Anyone see that laughably bad defence by Trump's lawyer in the Senate? I've never seen so much garbage in my life, it's almost as if he wants Trump to get convicted.

Anyway, what's nice is that President Biden has launched a campaign against the racial pay gap.

cnbc.com/2021/02/05/president-biden-plansto-fix-the-racial-wealth-gap.html

Institutions that are historically Black and Hispanic, as well as others, will also see an investment under Biden's plan.

As whites will be in a minority in the near future, helped by President Biden's policies of encouraging hard working Hispanic individuals to come and settle in the US, it only makes sense to divert money away from White institutions and into those which will serve the soon-to-be majority.

Velund
12 Feb 2021  #1945

The U.S. is likely sending the B-1B bombers to Norway (first time ever)

To declare that russians come closer and closer to american B-1B bombers and this act of agression cannot be left unanswered?

Poloniusz
12 Feb 2021  #1946

laughably bad defence by Trump's lawyer in the Senate

What's his name?

I've never seen so much garbage in my life, it's almost as if he wants Trump to get convicted.

What's his heritage?

Strzelec35
12 Feb 2021  #1947

" The Democrats have a total stranglehold on politics in California."

wrong only northern California or bay area is woke. much of California like central valley or places you can look up like Fresno, Richmond, Modesto, San Bernardino county, etc. are literally the most right wing places in all of USA and basically a bunch of pis supporters in Poland. in Glenn county the place i had a case in they literally wore cowboy hats and boots to the court house there.

" Anyway, what's nice is that President Biden has launched a campaign against the racial pay gap.

cnbc.com/2021/02/05/president-biden-plansto-fix-the-racial-wealth-gap.html"

there is no racial pay gap or gender pay gap just hogwash. i could do a much better job than any of their woke fms they keep hiring at pluralsight that got rid of me for not being technical enough or wn it guru when thy themselves no **** on it or even edition.

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2021  #1948

The Democrats have a strangehold on California. California is one of the largest and most successful economies in the world.

Coincidence? I think not. There's a reason why the money is in California and not in bumfuck USA.

Crow
12 Feb 2021  #1949

Crow, wat u fink?

Biden is a gravedigger for the States.

Poloniusz
12 Feb 2021  #1950

California is one of the largest and most successful economies in the world.

You never let an opportunity pass in which to display your ignorance of the world beyond your nose.

Maybe you should have read this headline from only five days ago:

"How long will California economy languish?"

calmatters.org/commentary/2021/02/california-economy-recovery-unemployment-recall/

California's official unemployment rate is published at 9% but the real unemployment rate is 15%.

Literally millions have lost their jobs over the past year alone.

The ultra wealthy and big businesses (from brokerage firms to tech companies) have already left in droves along with millions of long-time state residents. Unsurprisingly they are fleeing to solidly Republican, low or no tax states like Idaho, Utah, Texas, Wyoming, and Florida.

The situation is so dire and California is so cash strapped now that it actually has been trying to pass an "Exit Tax" which would require anyone who leaves to continue to pay taxes back to the state for ten years after they departed regardless of where they move to.

California also desperately tried to get billions in federal bailout money to cover their massive state and local budget deficits by tying it to COVID relief. They failed.

bumfuck USA

That would be a great motto for Pelosi's queer capital district of San Francisco. But now it is even more apt for the entire of California. They literally f*cked themselves over in every sense of the word.


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