USA News and Poland - Part 6

He seems like an ok guy but too extreme of a lefty. He blindly follows the Democrats even as his state is a disaster.

I thought that too at first but the hail of PM's he sent me recently, prove otherwise.
He thinks Poles need to own up to their inherent antisemitism.
Even though I told him that I experienced antisemitism within my own family but did not accept that to be the norm,he would have none of it.

He thinks that most Poles were,in recent history,antisemitic.
He has misread and misunderstood Polish history.

Is he as bad as Jimmy with the PMs? I had to block that idiot as you probably guessed.


It gets old hearing them whine about the war that ended 80 years ago.

Quote if the day:
Never in the history of America has there been a more incompetent pair in the White House. Sad times.

The reason why the Poles are the top of that list by Yad Vashem is actually very easy to explain.

Poland had the second largest Jewish population (after the US) in the world, prior to the World War 2. During the conflict, the Germans were sending a significant number of the Jews to occupied Poland, particularly as a consequence of the Operation Reinhard (which was about liquidating the ghettos in the occupied territories and sending the Jews to the death camps, all of which were established in occupied Poland).

That being said, it's no surprise that the Poles had the most opportunities to aid the Jews. But you can look at the issue from a bit different perspective if you want to turn that Righteous Among the Nations list into some kind of international competition.

The number of officially recognised Righteous of Polish descent is currently 7177 (according to the Wikipedia). The number of recognised Righteous of Dutch descent is 5910. If you look only on that, it may look like Poles are higher on the list and surpass the Dutch in their awesomeness. However, in 1939 there were around 3 250 000 of Jews living in Poland, compared to 140 000 Jews living in the Netherlands.

On the other hand, the Yad Vashem Institute doesn't include a lot of people who helped the Jews - it has specific criteria set when giving these awards, not to mention the fact that we'll never know about plenty of cases, and as time passes we're less likely to learn about someone's involvement in providing the aid. All of this reduces the actual number significantly, and people like Witold Pilecki, Stefan Rowecki, Stanisław Skrypij or the Ładoś group will not be on this list (despite their contribution).

As far as I understand the intent, mentioning the numbers provided by Yad Vashem may not be particularly helpful in proving the point.

Quoting:

Sixteen Haitian migrants are killed and 21 are rescued after their vessel capsized off Bahamas
It comes amid a continuing wave of sea migration toward the United States

I am really upset. I mean about those 21 that were rescued.
Also, I don't get it why these scumbags are trying to come here. Isn't the US racist and hateful? How about Brazil?

Too far of a swim....

All they have to do is fly to Mexico and cross over the wide open border.

(Bloomberg) -- China issued strong private warnings to the US government about a planned trip to Taiwan by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, which included a possible military response, the Financial Times reported.

I hope this response includes shooting her plane down. We suffered long enough with this perpetually puzzled moron.

Im sure the Biden Admin will back down.

Socialism for morons, "everything is free"............. except we are all out of everything.

That is why you want to live in rich US where cars are distributed to people for free. While in RuSSia, cars aren`t distributed. Bikes are. Stolen. For free.

That is why you don`t want to live in RuSSia.

Or the E.U.
I already live in the best place in the world here in Michigan.

Do you have it so hot there in Michigan or mayby it is raining?

I don't understand German, sorry.

It was only small talk about weather. Du comprende?

Alien, it is comfortable in God's country, Northern Michigan, especially Johnny's backyard.:::)))

It is a cool 18C right now with slight breeze and partly sunny with no rain around.
Very low humidity and good working weather which my garden needs tending to today.


Well Ptak, that goes for all of Nothern Michigan.
Have you ever heard anyone in Northern Michigan say that they wanted to buy a second home in Chicago ? Hoot !

@Milo & Cojestdocholery,
First of all, Israel has numerous reasons to regret her treatment of Israeli Arabs over the years, I've never been one to give solely the Israeli Jews the benefit of the doubt.

Milo, the Polish Resistance was indeed practically the single largest within Occupied Europe.
Anti-Semitism though did exist and just because the Poles were anti-Hitler, did not automatically mean they were necessarily pro-Jewish.

@Przelotnyptak1
@johnny reb
And we have 37* C and a fire. I had to run away from work.🚒

Not to mention the hellhole Detroit

Detoilet is no place for a guy like me.
It's the only city in Michigan that I carry my Huckleberry with me at all times.
They don't like me and I don't like them.

Did you see the video of the ******* running that guy over just to rob him in NYC? Wtf!

I get nervous when I see Malpas now and dont want them near me.

youtu.be/11iqvF55A_g

There are 133 million voters in the U.S.

Trump got 74 million votes

biden got 81 million votes

74 + 81 = 155 million

You don't have to be Einstein to do the math.

@Novi & Joker
I encourage you guys to watch the movie, (documentary), 2000 Mules which explains exactly how they stole the election.
biden knew he didn't need to campaign to win.

At the same time, holding a negative view on the Jews did not automatically mean that someone was acting against them. As a matter of fact, there are recorded examples of people with antisemitic mindset who were involved in providing aid the Jews.

Like I said, there is no such thing as antisemitism or racism. Only statistics.

Those who ignore statistics become statistics.

Veles, you're quite right about that actually.
Even the late, lamented Oskar Schindler was known prior to his heroic acts to be both a womanizer, a Nazi party member and sympathizer and not exactly a Judophile!

It was only as the war went on that his conscience as a Christian was finally awakened and he saw the righteous thing to do:-)

In fact, it was his powerful party connections which permitted him both to outwit his own people as well as to fool them into believing he was in his heart a true patriot. This then allowed him unrivalled access to forged documents, unquestioned bribery, and eventually the opportunity to smuggle his workers out of Germany.

@Lyzko

Yes, surely Schindler can be an example although there are also different opinions about him and his intent.

The thing is that prejudice is a broad term. In case of antisemitism, one may be considered to be antisemitic after making Jewish jokes, someone may believe and spread conspiracy theories about the Jews, and someone else will shoot at people who gathered in a synagogue. In all these three cases the term "antisemitism" may be used - but the situations are completely different. Not everyone who will be labelled as antisemite is capable of murdering the Jews, contributing to it, or accepting it.

Just because someone doesn't like his neighbour doesn't imply that he'll not try to help that neighbour if someone tried to kill him and his family.

Zofia Kossak-Szczucka, one of the cofounders of Żegota, seemed to hold antisemitic views (at least at the moment of founding the organisation). In her "Protest!" leaflets she stated that the Jews may be the enemy of the Polish state (or to be hostile to it, I don't remember), but every person with proper conscience must condemn the murder and put an effort in saving lives. According to one Israeli historian, the leader of the National Radical Camp (antisemitic to the core, I'd say) - Jan Mosdorf - was killed in Auschwitz for sharing food with Jewish inmates. Though here one may encounter also the versions according to which he remained hostile to the Jews even in Auschwitz.

Murder is a very serious line that is not easily crossed even if someone is prejudiced against someone - the genocide is even more serious.

At the same time, not every traitor, murderer and "szmalcownik" were actually holding antisemitic views - they could've been simply focused on the personal gain, opportunists without a moral compass of any sort.

Conversely, a Jew can be even ultra-critical of other Jews without being labeled necessarily an anti-Semite or self-hating Jew.

Everyone can be everybody. During the war there were also Jews who were betraying other Jews and contributed to the Holocaust, just because they wanted more comfortable life.