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USA News and Poland - part 9



Ironside
13 Jul 2024  #841

The US does not need NATO

Of course, the US needs NATO. I don't understand how can you think otherwise? Do you mean doesn't need NATO to defend itself? You are right but to project power globally and actively pursue imperial policy NATO is a must.
It is a major asset for the USA that gives them an edge in their relationship with China or Russia.

TheOther
13 Jul 2024  #842

I don't understand how can you think otherwise? ... to project power globally and actively pursue imperial policy NATO is a must.

What these people are proposing is that the USA should retreat globally and leave the field to the Russians and Chinese. Isolationism like after WW1.

Biden on the other hand has weaponized law enforcement,

Says who? The Trump campaign? One of his bootlickers? Trump is a private person now.

voted against making proof of citizenship a requirement to vote

To be able to vote, you have to register. To register to vote you have to have ID, usually your driver's licence. What kind of "proof of citizenship" do you have in mind? A national ID card like in Europe? Good luck with that.

Novichok
13 Jul 2024  #843

to project power globally and actively pursue imperial policy NATO is a must.

Hey, stupid, the US Constitution does not mention taxing Americans to project global power. If projecting global power is so good for the projector, why don't you, azholes, project all you want? You don't because you know it's expensive and stupid.

If you are too scared or poor ask China to project for you, morons...

In the meantime, Euros love this shlt because they are parasites who hate spending money on their defense. They are stupidly happy that there is a sucker doing it for them.

What kind of "proof of citizenship" do you have in mind?

A document that proves citizenship. A DL proves that you know how to drive a car. Duh!

Is every leftist a moron beyond repair?

Novichok
13 Jul 2024  #844

Richard Simmons, legendary fitness guru, dead at 76 just one day after celebrating birthday
A fitness guru dead at 76? The word "irony" couldn't fit any better...When I read that I was hoping for a car accident or at least pancreatic cancer...

This makes it worse...
His death was first reported by TMZ. Police told the outlet they believe it was a natural death.
My last hope is that today a drug overdose is "natural" if the drugs are organic and fresh.

Miloslaw
13 Jul 2024  #845

A fitness guru dead at 76?

A similar thing happened in the UK recently too......you can't trust these fitness freaks.....

Ironside
13 Jul 2024  #846

Hey, stupid, the US Constitution does not mention taxing

Hey, trolling moron you need to remember three things here: you are a moron
you have a lower IQ than I do.
you don't want to **** with me because even I; am scared of myself/If you remember all those we can have a long and happy relationship on PF.
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Now the US Constitution doesn't mention the FBI, doesn't mention sending to foreign countries federal money to promote LGBT ideology, etc. The US Constitution doesn't mention a lot of things. So what?
I'm talking reality and the way things are and you go by your ignorance and wishful thinking. a big difference. It makes me wise and it makes you delusional.

Joker
13 Jul 2024  #847

Breaking News: Gunshots att Trump rally....

yahoo.com/news/trump-heads-pennsylvania-pre-convention-040012333.html

All Democrats have TDS and cant win fairly.

Its appears the bullet bounced off of Teflon Trump anyhow:)

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jul 2024  #848

CNN 😁

trump

Trump survived. God bless this man.

x.com/stillgray/status/1812250467071885730

CIA? Clinton's? Deep State politicians?
Maybe it's Zelensky...

x.com/POS_FJB/status/1812254022356861320

BREAKING NEWS
Trump's shooter dead on roof

x.com/baronitaigas/status/1812268467900514401

trump

😁

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jul 2024  #849

BREAKING NEWS Trump is SHOT in the side of the head and left with blood strewn across his face in horrifying assassination attempt

By WILL POTTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 23:15 BST, 13 July 2024 | UPDATED: 00:29 BST, 14 July 2024

Donald Trump appeared to be shot in the ear as gunshots were fired at the former president at a rally in Pennsylvania.

Trump grabbed at the side of his face and blood spattered across his cheek as several popping sounds were heard, sending supporters running for safety.

The former president quickly pumped a fist at the crowd to show he was not severely injured, as Secret Service agents raced to the stage to hurry him away.

Trump's campaign said he was taken to hospital following the incident, but said he is 'fine', and 'thanks law enforcement and first responders for their quick action during this heinous act.'

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Donald Trump appeared to be shot in the ear as shots were fired at the former president at a rally in Pennsylvania

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Trump pumped a fist at the crowd and did not seem to severely injured as he walked on his own off the stage, surrounded by secret service

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Secret Service agents raced to the stage to rush the former president off the stage

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631849/Donald-Trump-shots-fired-Pennsylvania.html

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jul 2024  #850

Trump shot at Pa. rally live updates: Attempted Trump assassin, attendee killed: sources

By New York Post
Updated July 13, 2024, 7:47 p.m. ET

Shots have been fired at Donald Trump's Pennsylvania rally on Saturday in an apparent assassination attempt.

Trump suddenly clutched the side of his head after an apparent shot rang out, and he was promptly tackled by Secret Service agents as additional shots were fired.

The former president was seen with streaks of blood on the right side of his face, raising his fist as he was led away.
(...)
The sniper who took a shot on former President Donald Trump's life is dead, sources told The Post.

The Secret Service Counter counter-assault team "neutralized" the threat, the insiders said.

nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/trump-shot-at-pa-rally-live-updates-reactions-photos-more/

This is how it happened:



Poloniusz
14 Jul 2024  #851

Trump Shot, Survives Assassination Attempt; Shooter Dead; Secret Service Reportedly Ignored Warning

The incident comes days after Joe Biden and top Democrat donor Reid Hoffman make assassination comments.

Joe Biden on 7.8.2024:"We're done talking about the debate, it's time to put Trump in a bullseye." pic.twitter.com/K5FeeijDuC
- Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) July 13, 2024

Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."

That just happened.
- House Judiciary GOP πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ (@JudiciaryGOP) July 13, 2024

Just yesterday, Joe Biden mega-donor @reidhoffman was making jokes about assassinating Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/sMXbUq1O8a
- Andrew Surabian (@Surabees) July 13, 2024

zerohedge.com/political/trump-bleeding-rushed-stage-after-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally

AntV
14 Jul 2024  #852

We don't know who did this yet and who or if he/they are connected to Biden or anyone or group. But, I think Trump won the election today. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jul 2024  #853

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Poloniusz
14 Jul 2024  #854

We don't know who did this yet and who or if he/they are connected to Biden or anyone or group.

They are top Democrats who have publicly called for political violence over the past eight years.

In their own words:

x.com/i/status/1812276279011598648

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jul 2024  #855

According to the statement of a character on the BBC who together with a bunch of other people saw the assassin on the roof and showed it to the secret service for 2 minutes, which did not react, it shows that someone deliberately sabotaged it. It's a small place where they didn't monitor the roofs, the cheapest drone from the air would give them a picture.

x.com/SharpFootball/status/1812265909727396107

Poloniusz
14 Jul 2024  #856

The Times and The Sunday Times @thetimes

Mike Collins, a congressman from Georgia, tweeted: "Joe Biden sent the orders." In another tweet, he added:
✍️"The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R Biden for inciting an assassination"

x.com/thetimes/status/1812296813032181865

Poloniusz
14 Jul 2024  #857

How the rabidly leftwing rag The Washington Post with the laughable tagline "Democracy Dies in Darkness" completely downplayed this shocking assassination attempt by describing it as "loud noises".



Novichok
14 Jul 2024  #858

Hey, trolling moron

There are morons and there are morons.. The kind I hate the most to the point that I wish them dead are those who benefit from the sacrifices by the US taxpayers and then tell them that those sacrifices are for their own good even though Euro scumbags are the PRIMARY beneficiaries.

These Euro mother fvckers even tell us that spending US taxes on their defense is good for the US economy and employment.

Dear Vlad, if you get to the point when you have to drop some tactical nukes, kill Euros first. Once that is done, the US and Russia can be friends again.

Novichok
14 Jul 2024  #859

attempt by describing it as "loud noises".

The scary part is that leftist outlets are synchronized. CNN used the same phrase - loud noises - after Trump was already seen bleeding.

Novichok
14 Jul 2024  #860

which did not react, it shows that someone deliberately sabotaged it.

Here is my version...

The order came down to kill Trump. The US Brown Shirts found a moron to do it. What the patsy didn't know was that the Brown Shirts were ordered to execute him immediately after the attempt regardless if successful or not to eliminate a critical witness if caught.

Luckily, he was not successful - just a naive moron who believed the Brown Shirts.

Novichok
14 Jul 2024  #861

"Fvck you!"


  • Trump.jpg

TheOther
14 Jul 2024  #862

A DL proves that you know how to drive a car.

You have no clue, do you? You can't just walk into a DMV, take the driving test and walk away with a Driver's Licence. You will have to provide (amongst others) proof of identity, such as valid license, birth certificate or passport, with your full first, middle (if applicable) and last name. These checks allow you for example to use your driver's licence as a document to hop on a domestic flight. MAGAts ... beyond help.

PolAmKrakow
14 Jul 2024  #863

@TheOther
Any foreigner can get a license in any state. I know dozens of Canadians who got their American licenses, and many more Europeans who have them. In some states you have to "opt out" of being registered to vote automatically when getting you license. Not "opt in" and this is done in democrat controlled states.

And I wake to to the news of Trump being shot at by left wing extremist with ties to Antifa. This is everything you need to know about the leftist socialist globalists. They will stop at nothing to get their way and ruin the US. Now, it is even more likely Trump wins in a landslide. Watch how quickly Biden gives RFK secret service protection now. Unreal what the country has become.

Paulina
14 Jul 2024  #864

CIA? Clinton's? Deep State politicians?
Maybe it's Zelensky...

Sure, because people who are not right in the head never kill people they hate with the use of guns in the US, it just never happens :D The US is such a safe, peaceful, gun-hating country, after all ;D
And I would imagine any "serious player" would get a better shooter :P

But, I think Trump won the election today.

Ironically, that assassination attempt was a gift for Trump... Now he will be viewed as some kind of hero *sigh* And that fist pumping - perfect campaign image *rolls eyes* If I were as paranoid/retarded as the rightards often are, I would think/claim it was staged lol πŸ™„

the Brown Shirts

What... :D

by left wing extremist with ties to Antifa.

Where did you get that info? It's of course possible, but so far it seems he was only named and that's it, no info about motives or his political views? According to this article FBI identified the shooter as a 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631873/Shots-fired-Donald-Trumps-rally.html

They will stop at nothing to get their way and ruin the US.

Sure, because Democratic politicians have never been shot at/assassinated in the US history lol: 🀦

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-12143774

PolAmKrakow
14 Jul 2024  #865

@Paulina
How is it that this shooter got within less than 150 yards of Trump, on a rooftop? This elevated shooting position, for those who have hunted before, is not only a prime location, but one that was easily within the control of security and secret service agents. You are citing UK news for a story coming out of the US. The NY Post has photos of law enforcement standing over the dead shooters body. He made a donation to Biden when he was sworn in to office. This just a day after Biden said to put Trump in a "bullseye". While I dont believe Biden called for Trump to be shot, using that verbage with all the mentally ill people in the world is beyond careless. Even the leftist press is having questions now. This to me is far too similar to the JFK assasination to be coincidental.

The rhetoric, specifically that of the democrats and the far left, is exactly what divides the US. The lies about immigration, and the failure to support American people are just two reasons they will lose this election. I did not vote for Trump, and I do not like him personally. But Trump or Kennedy is exactly what is needed. Tear down all the absolute bull$hit political bodies and corruption within D.C. and focus on American people.

jon357
14 Jul 2024  #866

Ironically, that assassination attempt was a gift for Trump...

Sadly yes. Things like that increase support for even the worst politicians.

They have too many shootings there, and despite well-trained people to protect trumpet, someone could still get a shot in.

He made a donation to Biden when he was sworn in to office.

He was 16 when President Biden took office and gave $15 to a 'PAC'.. He was a registered Republican.

Joker
14 Jul 2024  #867

Sure, because Democratic politicians

Democrats have been saying Trump is an "existential threat to democracy" for years now, its their platform for 2024, as they cant run on their failed policies.

Matter of fact, just yesterday Biden called Trump a rapist!

"Fvck you!"

Look at all the PF foreigners trying to tell us how it is over here! LOL

PolAmKrakow
14 Jul 2024  #868

@Joker
It is hilarious to read all the non US citizens constanty tell everyone what the US should do for Ukraine, Europe and NATO. Saying it is required. Now, these same leftist globalist socialists want to comment on the presidential race, when their voice means nothing. Some of these same people think illegal immigration is ok in the US, yet they dont admit what the flow of migrants has done to Germany, France and England.

The shooter was 17 when he made the donation to a PAC. Registered as a republican but donating to democratic PAC? Again, does not pass the smell test. This shooter was on a rooftop. He got off 5 shots, and then he was dead. All while there were snipers on all the other rooftops, and witnesses on the ground saw the shooter crawling on the roof, notified secret service, and yet he still got off five shots. Trump wants to get rid of the CIA among other agencies. It is so far beyond the realm of logic that this shooter makes it in the secured area with a rifle, and then is able to gain the rooftop, crawl around on the roof, be seen by witnesses, get off five shots, all while the secret service does nothing. This was a 20 yr old man with an AR15, and if you look at the photos coming out, there was no way he would go unnoticed. Anyone believing in coincidence of all these things happening is not a logical thinker.

Paulina
14 Jul 2024  #869

How is it that this shooter got within less than 150 yards of Trump, on a rooftop? This elevated shooting position, for those who have hunted before, is not only a prime location

Yes, I don't know what kind of security former presidents get in the US, but logic would tell me that rooftop should be secured or observed at least. F*ck ups on the security side happen though, as we could see in case of the Slovakia's prime minister shooting. I'm guessing this is going to be investigated - why this f*ck up happened and that security will be tighter from now on.πŸ€”

The rhetoric, specifically that of the democrats and the far left, is exactly what divides the US.

What divides the US is the political and world-view division in the American society that is being whipped up by politicians and the media on both sides - that's my impression.

You are citing UK news for a story coming out of the US.

So? They're citing FBI. What is your source?

Democrats have been saying Trump is an "existential threat to democracy" for years now

Trumpists have been saying all kinds of things too, including on this forum. Sorry, Joker, but I know this all too well from our own Polish backyard - I know how hateful rightwingers can be and what crap they're capable of saying about their political opponents and their voters, etc. and I can see how you guys behave on this forum.

jon357
14 Jul 2024  #870

Yes, I don't know what kind of security former presidents get in the US, but logic would tell me that rooftop should be secured or observed at least

It's an embarassment for their secret service, certainly.

I wouldn't dwell too much on a $15 donation made by a 16 year old or made in his name. Interesting that he was a registered republican.

A sick society where a 20 year old can get hold of guns.


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