USA News and Poland - part 9

A quote from this article:

-dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13632103/Donald-Trump-supporter-describes-moment-assassin-killed-secret-service-agents-BBC-interview.html

"The witness said the Secret Service 'probably' could not see the shooter the shape of the roof would have blocked their line of sight."

I don't know what that roof looks like. Maybe people on the ground were able to see the shooter from where they were standing and the snipers on the rooftop couldn't see him due to some obstacles blocking the view.

The witness asks then:

"'But why is there not Secret Service on all of these roofs here?' the man asked.

'I mean this is not a big place.'"

And that's a good question, obviously, that will have to be answered. Maybe they didn't have enough people to cover that roof. Maybe the security made a mistake. I don't know. We will see.

here's a video:

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attached is an image of the shooter



another video:

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Came across this article. Paints him as a nation traveling antifa

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nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/13/us/trump-rally-shooting-maps-photos.html

google.com/maps/@40.8576881,-79.9699718,371m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=sr&entry=ttu

....hmmm....that should seal it for Trump, IMHO.....

Oliver Alexander
@OAlexanderDK


- Shooter on an unsecured rooftop just 400ft away from Trump with a clear line of sight.
- Bystander sees shooter crawling on roof with rifle minutes before and tries to warn law enforcement.

x.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1812275226174165165


x.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1812284709507883030



400 ft is about 120 m

Barring an October Surprise, probably. They like Hollywood type drama over there and it was just unfortunate that the photographers got photos that his campaign can use.

.....that happened in Slovakia before.... I wonder if something similar will happen in Germany too.

With all that hostile political environment, some easily manipulated youth may believe to do a good thing trying to stop the next "Hitler", even by force.....

It looks to me - judging by this video, that the snipers were aiming at him already. One of them ducked when the shooter started shooting as if he was afraid that the shooter was aiming at them.

Let's hope not. Europe isn't so gun-minded.

Polical beliefs aside....

I hunted for about 30 years. Took gun safety classes at 15. Learned all the ins and outs of stalking big game. I have no real military training, but have killed a lot of big animals from elevated positions. The idea that a 20 yr old, without military training, could enter a secure area, with a rifle on his back, then gain access to an elevated position with a direct line of sight to Trump, defies all logic and rational thought. The fact that the shooter was then taken out with head shots also makes me suspicious. This is not a lapse in security, this is an absolute failure in security, or a coordinated attempted hit job.

Talking to a family member this morning with military experience, retired after 30 years as an officer, he says that this is an impossible series of coincidences. Its about 12 hours now, and we have heard nothing about this young mans training with weapons, or digital footprint. In todays world, we would have had that by now for any other instance. Nothing here is adding up.

This all but locks Trump in as the winner. The dismantling of the MIC, CIA and more to come in very short order. Z needs to find a plan for Ukraine, and Orban is now NATO's only hope to talk Trump into staying in NATO. In just a few hours the worlds political stage has changed.

Complacency.

Apparently people outside spotted him first, alerted the security, yet the speech was allowed to continue.


I doubt there's anything suspicious.


That won't happen.


The leaders of developed nations are already planning how to deal with another political term over there of the chaos of the Mango Mussolini and his reprehensible followers.

Matt Wallace
@MattWallace888


x.com/MattWallace888/status/1812381308561117231

....don't forget, Trump was already 4 years in power...it wasn't to bad, wasn't it....he only wanted Germany to shoulder their part of the NATO-burden also!

He even warned Merkel and Co not to become to dependent on Russia....oh and how they laughed and mocked him!

x.com/TT_FromMTV3/status/1812254992105120096

😁

Well, that would depend how secure the area was, wouldn't it... And an assassin laying flat on a roof isn't a deer walking upright foraging obliviously in the woods.


Why? That's what you do in an active shooter situation - you shoot to kill.


Clearly, but I guess you have to take into account that Trump isn't a serving president. So it's possible that the security was fairly lax, especially that it was probably some another rally, in some small place, etc. As we say in Polish: "Rutyna może Cię zgubić".


So what is the secret agent doing exactly? lol All I see is one secret agent telling the photoreporters to go away from behind the stage. Maybe they weren't supposed to be there.

Trump demonstrated he is more composed when being shot at by an assassin than stuttering Biden is when asked a prepared question by a reporter.


How does that compare to the sick society where you are from?

@Paulina
I can tell you how secure areas are when a president or former president is speaking. There are multipl layers of ID checkpoints. I went to a Bill Clinton rally when he was running for re-election and experienced it myself. Trump being a controversial president and candidate gets the highest level of protection, more than Clinton, Bush or any other. There is no way that a building in that area would be outside the security perimeter. Please read up on how much protection is afforded presidents and former presidents before saying things like security would be lax. Watch the video's, nothing was lax. Watch the videos of witnesses, the secret service was notified 5 to 7 minutes before the shooting began that there was a man on the roof.

As for other know it alls who think they understand the American collective psyche, you dont know much. Keep praying for the status quo, and you are going to be left disappointed. Americans have had enough of the socialist leftist collective, enough of wasteful wars, and all the other BS over the last 40 years. Trump may be a bully, and loud mouth that I dont like, but he is definitely going to change things. He cant get a third term, and has nothing to lose. Leftist globalists have every reason to be scared, and I cannot wait to watch all those dreams come crashing down.

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It looks like God protected Donald Trump. Maybe because of his promise to free imprisoned pro-life activists (see #827).

If God is with Trump, who can win against him?

Then hopefully an investigation will reveal how did this happen that the shooter got this far.


Well, what I can see are only two snipers on one roof. I wouldn't call such security terribly tight? Apparently some Republicans said that more protection was requested for Trump, but it was denied. So maybe there wasn't enough people to cover this area. I don't know. We will see.

And by "lax" I also mean that the security people could let their guard down too much.


From what I've read it was 2 or 3 minutes.
Still, the moment they got that info they should have taken Trump off the stage/down on the ground. So the question is if the agents in Trump's vicinity got that info and when. It didn't look like they did - they seemed to be caught by surprise.


Um, you could say the same about Hitler then... lol Just saying.

So God doesn't protect sick children but does protect a morally corrupt politician....

You see, that's the problem with the fundamentally inhuman cancel culture (or rather anti-culture). A man does something wrong and that's it - he's cancelled. No second chance, no place for mending his ways, no forgiveness. Demonic. Purely demonic, as all neo-marxism is. With such approach Saul could never have become Paul - he would have been cancelled after his first wrong deed.

God bless and protect the former and future President of the United States, Donald Trump.

I'm sorry, but when did Trump ask for forgiveness or mended his ways? lol :)))

Attendee at Trump rally claims he saw the alleged shooter on a rooftop near the event

This is supposedly the shooter:



Looking at the guy's physiognomy, I can see why he missed.

The following picture is said to be of the shooter after he was killed:

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Don't be. I learnt to judge a man by his enemies and by those who criticise him and are against him. It is, therefore, now clear to me that Donald Trump is the man who should become the President of the United States of America (again!).

Thank you for making me realise this, Lenka and Paulina.

Now, as I am not a specialist on American politics, I shall retire from this thread.

*keeps his fingers firmly crossed for Donald Trump's victory*

@Poloniusz
That picture looks like Texas.

@Vesko Vukovic
Do you have to post corpse photos?

@Vesko Vukovic, what the hell is wrong with Serbs on this forum? Why are you so messed up? You shouldn't be embedding such graphic photos of dead people on a public forum - and such close up at that. Psycho.


And I've learned to judge a man by his actions.


That you prefer an American president that will choose to appease RuSSia and won't give a sh1t about Poland? You're welcome lol

But isn't.

Take your pick.




It's obvious why you would be bothered by it. It's not a very flattering photo of one of your martyrs now is it? Couple with that your disappointment that he missed.

Indeed, you and your fellow leftists on here are yet to condemn this assassin and constant Democrat rhetoric calling for political violence.

Instead you blame gun culture and Donald Trump.

@Paulina
The shooter got into a perimeter set by the secret service. Someone needs to explain how this happens when there are fences, and checkpoints. This is where any argument about lax security becomes mute. This could only happen through an inside job, or a complete failure of the secret service.

Your point about Trump not giving a sh1t about Poland is completely unfounded. He gave Poland the visa waiver program that was being denied to Poland for twenty years. He stationed more US military here. So much so, PiS was going to build ft. Trump. Trump is Polands best bet at protection, Bidens policies, and NATO are tempting fate with Russia, Belarus, China and more.

I judge people by their actions as well. Biden is not a president that is good for American Citizens, and that is the only group of people that matter. He is destroying the country from within, and the democratic party is the end of what was once the greatest nation in the world. The only way it returns to what it was is by focusing on itself and its people for a change.