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USA News and Poland - part 14



Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #721

you lose the ability to see the bigger picture.

The big picture is that the US doesn't need foreign trade to prosper. We are 99.9% self-sufficient.

Just as Earth doesn't need to trade with Mars and Venus. Somehow, we manage just fine.

Sun is a different matter. Thank you, Sun...

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2025  #722

I would rather say to stay on top of things you NEED some exchange with foreign products, ideas, goods....the other way is shown by North Korea (the real one!) or some other nutter isolated hole.

Nobody is really self sufficient....sure there are these crazies/idealists who prefer to live all by themselves...totally autarkic/self sustaining.....but most people don't. They prefer to have the choices (even if they are more expensive)!

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #723

I would rather say to stay on top of things you NEED some exchange with foreign products

You buy one. Take it apart and copy what you need.

No need to import million copies or send your wn car plant to Mexico and leave thousands unemployed behind...

It's not just semantics.

We are not "trading". We are buying. Huge difference.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #724

They will be able to afford less and so they will buy less.
@ Paulina

How naive can you get? The aim is to buy American-made, more expensive but of higher quality items,benefiting American workers who will earn more money; therefore, they will afford more, not less. Affordable diapers become no issue.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2025  #725

Take it apart and copy what you need.

What about patents and copy rights?

We are not "trading". We are buying. Huge difference.

Na ja....it's abit more than that....the EU is the biggest thing for the US!

The transatlantic trade relationship is the most important commercial relationship in the world.

EU-US trade in goods and services reached an impressive €1.6 trillion in 2023. This means that every day, €4.4 billion worth of goods and services cross the Atlantic between the EU and the US.

EU-US goods and services trade is balanced: the difference between EU exports to the US and US exports to the EU stood at €48 billion in 2023; the equivalent of just 3% of the total trade between the EU and the US. 

The total bilateral trade in goods reached €851 billion in 2023. The EU exported €503 billion of goods to the US market, while importing €347 billion; this resulted in a goods trade surplus of €157 billion for the EU.

Total bilateral trade in services between the EU and the US was worth €746 billion in 2023. The EU exported €319 billion of services to the US, while importing €427 billion from the US; this resulted in a services trade deficit of €109 billion for the EU.

The EU and the US are also major investment partners. EU and US firms have €5.3 trillion worth of investment in each other's markets (2022 data). 
US exports of goods and services to the EU support 2.3 million jobs in the US, and EU firms' investments in the US employ 3.4 million people.


policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-country-and-region/countries-and-regions/united-states_en

The US has alot to lose....not only the Europeans!

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #726

The US is the only nuthouse where the government is actually assisting companies to leave. At least until now...

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #727

Nobody is really self sufficient..

Sure, some exchanges might be mutually beneficial if they are not parasitical.

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #728

What about patents and copy rights?

We should ignore them and honor only the internal ones.

Did Germany ever sue a Chinese company in China? .... hahahahahahahaha...

some exchanges might be mutually beneficial

Like the US shipping soybeans to China and China shipping computers to the US...

The very definition of a colony...We are the colony.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2025  #729

Did Germany ever sue a Chinese company in China?

Man....always where it hurts.....****Chinese!

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #730

statistics in the hands of skillful liars will show whatever your heart desires. Did you know that according to statistics, a bed is the most dangerous piece of furniture because, statistically, most people die in bed? So eliminating the bed would solve the mortality problem; we would live happily, forever.
But enough about statistics, Paulina's infatuation and love story. Well, Google might be equally important

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #731

a bed is the most dangerous piece of furniture

That was both true and funny....

From now on I will sleep on the floor or in the trunk.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #732

Like the US shipping soybeans to China and China shipping computers to the US...

No, I said some: China and beneficial,huge oxymoron.

Paulina
6 Apr 2025  #733

American eggs are washed and therefore not fit for consumption by the European standards

Once eggs get washed, they have to be refrigerated. Eggs in Europe aren't being refrigerated.
For the same reason European eggs are "not fit for consumption" by American standards - they would have to be washed and waxed and we don't do that in Poland. For example, the US asked Poland to sell our eggs to the US, but apparently we can only sell stuff made from eggs to your country, not eggs themselves:

money.pl/gospodarka/usa-pytaly-polske-o-jajka-taka-byla-odpowiedz-7142023986293696a.html

Your regulatory trade barriers,are the real monsters.

They apply to everyone, not only to American products.

We are 99.9% self-sufficient.

No, you aren't *sigh*

The aim is to buy American-made, more expensive but of higher quality items

Are Americans ready, willing and able to do that though?

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #734

No, you aren't *sigh*

What do we have to import to exist?

Do not list things we can make ourselves or used to.

Paulina
6 Apr 2025  #735

@Novichok, you have to import things to function on the same level as you do now. I doubt that today's Americans would be satisfied with just "existing".

cms neuf
6 Apr 2025  #736

There are of course thousands of items that you can easily google.

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #737

What do we have to import to exist?

Did you notice "have to"?

OK, let me simplify it.

Name three things we are unable to make in the US.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #738

Don't worry, wait until you are 100, then hit the floor

PolAmKrakow
6 Apr 2025  #739

@Bratwurst Boy
But pickups are not the largest sales in the US. You still didnt name a EU pickup that would be competition.

@Paulina
The higher tariff is 50 years old and it was for chicken as BB explained. Please follow along. Now name a pickup in the EU that could compete in the US. The largest market in the US is SUV, not pickups. You so your complete ignorance of US consumers, concerning Chinese products. Americans dont mind paying more for better quality. Its simple really. You really have no clue about the United States, you should really just stop on this topic.

From personal experience. I made a purchase in the US, had it shipped to Poland. VAT of 23% charged and the company I purchased from was not a VAT payer, and the company I paid out of was a US company. The EU is not a place that encourages business other than corporations. It is cost prohibitive for start ups and small business.

cms neuf
6 Apr 2025  #740

Rubber, coffee, chocolate - took less that 5 seconds to think of that

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #741

They apply to everyone, not only to American products.

So I don't give a flying fu*k by everybody else. I care about American products and the crazy trade barriers . You can eat as much chicken **** as you wish.
Most regulations are designed to act as trade barriers, just a fig leaf,so Europe can claim innocence: We don't impose barriers or harmful tariffs,cries Paulina, but we have rules and regulations that accomplish our diabolical goals. The European perfidy is exposed; China is much worse.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #742

There are of course thousands of items that you can easily google.

Did you ever try Googling your eggs for breakfast? I am sure Paulina has. Google is her umbilical cord, her connection to the world.

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #743

Rubber, coffee, chocolate - took less that 5 seconds to think of that

Are all Polaks really as stupid as you...

Name three things we are unable to make in the US..

Did you notice "make" in my question, azzhole?

What you listed is not made and adds up to nothing in the US trade deficit of $800B.

One more time...

Name three things we are unable to make in the US.

"Made" stands for produced in a factory.

God, give me patience to deal with these idiots. That was bait. Let's see if it will work...

Przelotnyptak1
6 Apr 2025  #744

I doubt that today's Americans would be satisfied with just "existing".

For once, you are right, we would not be satisfied; we would invent a solution; that's what Americans do, better than anybody in the world; the rest of you are copycats

cms neuf
6 Apr 2025  #745

What it about you Maga morons and factories ? You have this 19th century view that factories are the apogee of economic life. The foghorn in the morning, cracking lewd jokes in the canteen, a tasteless American beer on the way home before taking the belt to your wife.

Get your heads round this - when you have to build your own stuff, those factories will be full of robots, there will be no new work for the meth heads of Steubenville

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #746

The problem with Polaks is that they append words to the original text and argue from there.

Did I say "barely exist? Monte Carlo exists. So does the Vatican. Exists is a statement of fact and means that x is present. Hitler does not exist. Got it?

What do we have to import to exist?

How about: Everything foreigners make we can make here, too. OK?

those factories will be full of robots,

I like American robots in America more than Chinese rorbots in China.

Do you know why, moron?

It's because when American robots make things in America, there is no TRADE DEFICIT, azzhole...

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #747

From RT.com:

White House shares staggering number of countries who want to make deals on tariffs
More than 50 countries have reached out to the Trump administration to negotiate tariff deals, according to a White House advisor.


According to PF Trump haters this should never ever happen. Instead, the US should impeach the guy, surrender, and apologize...

Eat shlt, azzholes...

Feniks
6 Apr 2025  #748

Not only in the US.....it's happening in the whole West.

This is true but the problem is far worse in the US. A study from November 2024 published in The Lancet states that almost three-quarters of Americans are overweight or obese and for American children it is almost half.

it was diagnosed by an endocrinologist based on blood tests and thyroid ultrasound, of course :)

Only on PF can you be accused of being a hypochondriac when you have a bona fide disease.........

Everything foreigners make we can make here, too. OK?

The cost is likely to be prohibitive though if you are trying to produce something of considerable quality at scale. The reason the US outsourced production of certain items in the first place was to lower labour and materials costs. Try producing iphones/smart phones at prices that Americans can afford.

Novichok
6 Apr 2025  #749

Try producing iphones/smart phones at prices that Americans can afford.

BS.

Quoting:

Labor Costs: The labor costs for assembling an iPhone are a small part of the overall manufacturing cost, estimated to be between 2% and 5% of the sales price.
Component Costs: The estimated material cost of a high-end phone is around $200 to $500, with labor costs averaging only $10 to $20 per device.


If made in the US at $40 an hour, that iPhone would retail for 30 bucks more. BFD! That's a cheap breakfast for 2.

PolAmKrakow
6 Apr 2025  #750

If made in the US at $40 an hour, that iPhone would retail for 30 bucks more. BFD! That's a cheap breakfast for 2.

Thats an uber ride. These people have no clue about the US. Unreal how the experts are only experts in what they can get from cnbc.

And for all the pickup truck people, and SUV is categorized as a station wagon when registering it in any state. Pickups, a small portion of the US car business.


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