USA News and Poland - part 14

The uncontained greed of globalists and internationalists was the real reason. The gravy train is coming to an end, and traitorous rats are crowding the exits

Dead right.Trump has shot America in the foot with his tariffs.


It's a no brainer!


We will soon see........ Trump is well known for his sudden turnarounds, I think the tariffs may well be one of them!

Really?? Are American cars better? Tell me why Europeans don't buy American cars,I know the answer, but I bet you don't.


This will be true in America,but the Chinese will drop their prices to Europe to unload some of the surplus they can no longer sell to the USA.

@Przelotnyptak1
@Novichok

You Polish Yanks need to check out the American President Mcinley,he was the last American president to use tariffs as a tool to "protect America", it failed and led to recession.......he was assassinated in the end...... Yanks, learn from your own history!

Dream on. The gravy train derailed the day of Trump's election:::)))

When you realize that tariffs are just part of the problem, your regulations, manipulations, and bogus trade barriers are far more destructive. And China is by far more perfidious.

It's not BS. If it was just a matter of labour costs then the iPhone could be produced more cheaply in other locations. What the US lacks is tooling engineers. In China this expertise is prevalent whereas the US lacks that specific skill set. Qualified precision tooling engineers are in scarce supply in the US and it is a skill that takes years of training to acquire.

Ask yourself why it isn't being produced in the US if there is so little difference in labour and component costs.


Unreal how little you know about the production of iPhones. No idea what cnbc is.

Who is talking BS here?


Feniks is 100% right.


Exactly!


Unreal how little he knows about ANYTHING and yet he still thinks he is an expert commentator...........

@Miloslaw
You need medication. The death of America? Like proclaimed in 2008? Or the 1970's? You're fvcking high.

Lets see where the world and the US is in six months. Every EU country will bow down to Trump to do business. If not they will go out of business. Take an econ class.

What is unreal that you comment on the manufacturing of the iPhone that is moving back to USA its birthplace Apple just announced its pledge to invest 500 billion
for plant building and production in the USA, and your ignorance of the facts is unreal

@Przelotnyptak1
When the facts dont fit the leftist globalist agenda, change the facts.

Learn American history.

The 1929-1938 US recession was caused the Federal Reserve Bank - a private bank named that way to make the stupid believe that it is part of the US government.

Deliberately or not, the "Feds" reduced the money supply by 30% and caused the recession. Nothing to do with tariffs - an excuse to cover for the Fed's blunder. Or crime...

Its just a matter of time.


Remind us again in 6 months and youll be singing a different tune.

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About that picture...So beautiful,,,I mean the lower part...10 million dead bodies would be better but I will settle for just the grass...

Hey, azzfvcker, do you recall your "They can't be stopped. Get used to it" bullshlt?

It took Trump 3 seconds, you stupid cuntdodger...

He has been wrong 100% of the time over the years on his Trump predictions. Whatever he claims the exact opposite happens.

He still refuses to accept the fact that doing it with a woman gets you a beautiful baby.

Do it with a man and you get AIDS.

Then maybe you should have read in more depth about it because your ignorance is astounding. Yes, Apple are investing more in the US over the next 5 years, but that is focusing on tech manufacturing. The investment is not affecting the iPhone, iPad and iMac which are assembled in Asia. The bulk of Apple's products will still be assembled overseas.

observer.com/2025/02/apple-500b-investment-us-manufacturing-former-pledges/

I suspect that Novi knows exactly what I am talking about because when he fails to respond it is because he knows that he's in the wrong. If he is an engineer then he will know that you cannot just pull tooling engineers out of a hat to make these products. It would take years of training for Apple to be able to manufacture iPhones in the US.

But of course the two people on this forum that consider themselves to be the fonts of all knowledge will never admit that they don't know what they're talking about.

So what "diabolical goals" do those rules and regulations accomplish towards EU products? You realise that those rules and regulations apply also to EU products?


I don't have "myriad of diseases" lol


Interesting, thanks for the info, Feniks.


I don't know a great deal about cars, but I'll give you an example of something that I know about - so, why many Americans (of course, not only Americans) choose buying Ohuhu markers instead of Copic markers? Ohuhu is a Chinese brand and Copics are Japanese. Copics are the best alcohol markers available on the market, but they're also expensive. Ohuhu are good enough, but cheaper. The same is with graphic tablets. For a long time Wacom (Japanese, the best there is and expensive) tablets were the industry standard and they're still are, but in recent years the Chinese started producing cheaper tablets that are apparently good enough for ordinary people (and maybe not only) and those people started buying those cheaper options.

So, with 24% tariffs on Japanese products and with 34% tariffs on Chinese products, how much Americans will have to pay for quality graphic tablets in the US? And, you know, unlike iPhones people actually need good graphic tablets and accessories connected to them for work.

Are there even any American graphic tablet brands? Because I've never heard of any... 🤔

@Paulina
WTF do tablets and other garbage have to do with cars? I just spent over a grand on a new Lenovo Yoga, and I didnt GAF if it was 1200 or 1500. IPhones? They are losing in popularity due to price and other compatibility issues. Anyone spending money on an iphone wont gaf if its a hundred bucks more. You have no clue how Americans think.

Do Trump's tariffs apply only to foreign cars or all foreign products?

Graphic tablets were obviously only an example of what I'm talking about in general.


Well, not everyone in the US is a business owner, like you, right? I'm sure there are people for whom 300 dollars make a difference.


But Apple is an American company, right?


But not everyone can afford an IPhone and now cheaper options will be more expensive due to tariffs.

That's my point - I'm afraid that those tariffs will affect the people/households with lower incomes in the US and that could increase poverty. I don't know how big that impact will be, obviously - I guess we'll see.

Thats exactly right. The dirty life limiting jobs that no one wants to do returning to the US is a joke. The image of a one wage household will never happen, the wet dream of a woman at home minding kids while dad works supporting everyone in the house is just a fiction, the bit hollywood leaves out is that Granny gets cancer.

Meanwhile Trump, Netanyahu, MBS and Putin present each other with ridiculous gifts. Dont know about you but I've no use for a falcon or an arabian horse or even a picture of myself. These sociopaths love that kind of stuff but granny still has cancer, prices rise and standards fall but the good news is that musk can blast a car into the heavens atop a rocket.

Its ridiculous.

Smart phones are also manufactured in Asia and not the US for the same reasons that apply to the iPhones. The only reason I mentioned phones in the first place was to address this comment from Novi:


Just about everybody these days has either a smart phone or iPhone, so Americans cannot do without them and they cannot be produced cheaply in the US currently. It will take years before this becomes an option. Now, of course, they will cost Americans more due to tariffs.


Of course it will but PAK doesn't strike me as the type of person who cares that much as long as he's alright.

Right now I would be deeply worried if I was a US farmer because China is the largest buyer of soybeans, sorghum and other crops, also beef and chicken. If China goes elsewhere, Brazil for example, US farmers will be going out of business. Then the US will be forced to bail them out. Everyone loses.

@Paulina
All foreign products thankfully. Tablets are no where near as popular as they are in Europe. They really are almost useless unless its a Microsoft tablet with a keyboard that can attach. Forget the name. The practical applications for tablets are minimal.

People who need $300 shouldnt be out buying tech, they should be working a second job. This is the problem with Americans. Not everyone deserves to have everything. If I see one of my employees who makes 70K a year driving a car that costs that much or more, he is living beyond his means. Just because abank will finance it, doesnt mean you should have it or deserve it.

Apple is an American company and right after the tariffs were decided on, they decided to spend 500Billion in the US for production. Thats how tariffs on US companies using foreign labor work. Iphones will cost more, buyt more higher paying jobs will be created. Win Win.

You and others concerned about lower income people need to start addressing the real issue with those people. They do not work hard to get out of their situations. I was so poor when I was a kid, I lied about my age to get my first job. I have zero empathy or sympathy for people who wont sacrifice their free time to elevate themselves out of poverty. Being smart with money is just as important as having it.

Thats complete and utter bollox. The person doing one, two ro three jobs doesnt work hard?

There you go. So such "garbage" like clothes, furniture, electronics, etc.


I wasn't talking about regular tablets. I was writing about graphic tablets. You can't be a graphic designer if you only own a mouse lol You need a graphic tablet. Not just any tablet, but a graphic tablet that is specifically designed as a drawing tablet. And those are made by a Japanese company (Wacom) and Chinese companies (like Huion, XPPen).


LOL

What if they need that tech for their kids for school or sth? WTF are you even talking about?? All kinds of things involve the use of tech these days.

Also, I get an impression that there are already more people in the US working multiple jobs than in Poland. That can't be happening without an impact on their family life and mental well-being (and probably health even).


I guess you haven't read that article posted by Feniks? Apple made such declarations before - under Biden and previously under Trump.

A fragment from that article posted by Feniks:

"While the bulk of Apple's products will continue to be manufactured overseas, the $500 billion investments will see a 250,000-square-foot manufacturing facility opened in Houston by 2026 to make servers for the company's "Apple Intelligence" A.I. system."

So, it looks like Apple will be investing those money into AI that will most likely replace people at their jobs lol 🙄


I have no doubt about that and I'm sure Trump and his billionaire buddies have also zero empathy for people with lower incomes or even for humans in general. The thing is - those people are voters too :) And if those tariffs last long enough and affect them hard enough I imagine they may lose their patience and their votes may sway the next elections in favour of Democrats (not that I would mind them winning, of course, I'm just saying :)).

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Yes, unfortunately that's my impression too...

And clearly me, you and Barney aren't the only ones who realise what the repercussions might be:

m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/trump-supporter-bill-ackman-warns-of-economic-nuclear-winter-as-tariffs-rattle-markets-says-business-leaders-are-losing-confidence-in-trump/articleshow/120048908.cms

"Billionaire investor and Trump supporter Bill Ackman has called on the U.S. president to pause his aggressive tariff campaign warning that it could spark a global economic collapse and hit the working-class Americans the hardest."

There is of course the slight problem that Apple doesn't have 500 billion of cash. They have 52 billion - or at least they did until Golden Cow went crazy. Despite what PolAm says there has already been a considerable fall in sales of iPhones and most other products even before tariffs.

They make circa 90 billion profit per year, and there is no way they are going to invest five years of net profits in such a risky venture. They just said that to keep Golden Cow happy. This is one of the biggest problems in the US at the moment, lack of honesty and truth, telling to the boss.

It's not that people are so sensitive about 100 bucks extra, more that they are tired of the whole package of a thousand bucks and obvious gouging on chargers, AirPods, mis-selling of memory etc.

For God's sake, wake up from your liberal slumber; the US was the inventor and financed huge development costs and original production, then greedy globalists intervened, stole intellectual property, and moved production overseas for huge profits, so what are you talking about? What tooling or engineering?, we had all the tooling and engineering. It was stolen from the US via highway robbery, and the fat cats, traitors, laughing all the way to the bank. Come on, Feniks, you are smarter than that

@Przelotnyptak1
Most of the features in/on smart phones were invented outside the US including the initial concept. The iphone wasnt the first smart phone but after stealing the Beatles logo Jobs copied what was around him. US owned companies moved to make their products competitive and US consumers lapped it up. I can remember clearly anyone objecting to off shoring being described as far left.

In a way the US deserves an economy based on selling burgers and insurance to each other. Members of the cult are never wrong...

Who the hell said cash? Do you think Musk is sitting on 300 billion dollars in cash? You think Apple is pulling the numbers out of its ar*e,fulling Trump and financial experts, but you are not falling for the lie? You know better. Take a brake or spew your hateful nonsense elsewhere.

I have to go now but I am so happy you are back ...

You are below CMS level of helpful knowledge, just a hateful, not-so-bright contrarian. Get lost.