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USA News and Poland - part 18



Torq
26 Feb 2026  #961

I think if there is a new civil war, this time around, the North might lose.

The South's gonna rattle again, you reckon?

China would be absolutely delighted.

Bobko
26 Feb 2026  #962

The South's gonna rattle again, you reckon?

As Gertrude Stein said - there will never be a more interesting thing, than that goddamn war.

It's what I studied in university, and what I wrote my dissertation about (in part).

It may not be "The South", but it may be something else. This country is deathly close to internal war, and every day and every month and year that we do not have war - it should be considered a blessing.

The level of mutual hatred in America is insane. I'm only a historian, so I can't say more than this - but it doesn't seem to have been as bad even in 1859-60-61.

Americans hate each other.

mafketis
26 Feb 2026  #963

country is deathly close to internal war

Don't be silly... Americans don't have anything remotely close to the kind of discipline needed for an internal war. And the geographic lines aren't neatly enough demarcated.

What will happen is that America will turn into Brazil (political thinkers in the US used to talk a lot about 'the Chinese model' or 'the Brazilian model' and the latter clearly won the day).

More stratification and the hollowing out of civil space so that there's a tiny oligarchy a very small middle class and a vast sea of have notes (kept at each others' throats by the ptb).

Roughly democrats want that because they think they'll be in the luxury gated communities and high rises keeping hoi polloi out and republicans want it because they want an underclass. Different rhetoric but it comes to the same thing.

MAGA is a last ditch resentment by former middle class before they're shoved into the favelas....

Torq
26 Feb 2026  #964

Americans hate each other.

First, they slaughtered the natives and put them in reservations, then they slaughtered each other, took part in countless wars and let's not forget that they are the only country in the history of Planet Earth who found it wise and prudent to murder civilians en masse with the use of nuclear weapons.

Perhaps we shouldn't be that very much surprised that their actors, bankers, singers, politicians, businessmem, judges etc. - pretty much all of their "elite" turn out to be some sort of satanic, cannibalistic, paedo cabal.

Having said that, there must be at least 10 righteous people (I even know one of them personally :)) living somewhere in America, as God spares them for the time being.

Joker
26 Feb 2026  #965

What's "100% true"? The female team declined Trump's invitation

You were literally shown the team's own statement and you still call it "bullsh1t" because it doesn't fit your narrative. That's not investigation, Detective, that's TDS on steroids! LOLOL

Trump, Trump , Trump consumes your entire day! Hahahahahahaha

For the sake of humanity - let's hope the Americans don't decide to try to destroy..

Like WWI and WWII the Europeans started???? You have never and still cant get along with your neighbors.

@ Lazyass

There it is again. Same copy-paste meltdown for the tenth time. You don't debate - you recycle.

You stack loaded phrases, conflate civil and criminal standards on purpose, and think shouting it louder makes it truer. It doesn't.

At this point you're not even arguing, you're compulsively repeating yourself like a mindless Parrot ....Krakkawwwawwwww!

If trolling was an Olympic sport, you'd have gold!!!! And still be talking about Trump during the medal ceremony bc he lives in your head free of charge.

What an idiot!

Bobko
26 Feb 2026  #966

What will happen is that America will turn into Brazil

I think war.

January 6th came very close to war, and the weeks after.

But war was averted - through the strength of institutions and the decency of the common man - who protested.

That was one close pass.

The next one may not be so lucky.

This country is in trouble, and you have to be an absolute retard to not understand this.

Paulina
26 Feb 2026  #967

You were literally shown the team's own statement and you still call it "bullsh1t" because it..

...because it looks like bullsh1t, since male team have their season too and yet they didn't decline the invitation.

Trump, Trump , Trump consumes

...a lot of adderall to keep him going according to a physical therapist with 14 years of experience in treating geriatric patients with dementia :)))

their "elite" turn out to be some sort of satanic, cannibalistic, paedo cabal

This.
I remember watching "Eyes Wide Shut" years ago and thinking that it was "unrealistic" (I was young and naive) lol... It turned out the reality is much, much worse...

Joker
26 Feb 2026  #968

@Torq
That's a lot of sweeping hatred for a country of 330 million people. And you call yourself a Christian Ha!

Every major power in history has blood on its hands especially European empires. Cherry picking one chapter of history doesn't make you morally superior.

You went from history to "satanic cannibal elites" in three sentences. That's a full blown meltdown.

You've obviously never set foot in the U.S., so you're stuck inventing cartoon versions of it from conspiracy forums.

You're starting to sound just like Lazyass. All that hate has rotted your brain.

You obsess over America 24/7/365 like it's your full-time job. Meanwhile, nobody here sits around talking about Europe. We genuinely don't care.

For someone who claims the U.S. is irrelevant, you sure can't stop posting about us............And that goes for the rest of the jealous Eurotrolls that cant stop melting down over the USA!! Hahaha

Inspector Cleaseau crying about a hockey team that had legit reasons for not attending....lol

Paulina
26 Feb 2026  #969

inventing cartoon versions of it from conspiracy forums

What the Epstein files are showing isn't a "cartoon version" though - it's a freaking horror movie. And that's just half of it - so God (and devil) knows what the remaining 3 milion files that haven't been published contain.

Meanwhile, nobody here sits around talking about Europe. We genuinely don't care.

Oh, cut the crap. Your president keeps talking (all kind of crap) about Europe.

I don't know anyone who would claim the US is "irrelevant", btw. It is very relevant and that's why all eyes are on you and this will continue until your Orange Nero will be causing chaos for other countries in this world.

And that goes for the rest of the jealous Eurotrolls

You hopeless idiot... We aren't "jealous." We're disappointed, disgusted and horrified. Jesus Christ... 🤦 You need some serious reality check.

Joker
26 Feb 2026  #970

January 6th came very close to war, and the weeks after.

War? That's delusional. January 6 was a riot, not Gettysburg. The country didn't collapse after the fake Jan6th committe clown show either...... Calm down. Stop watching leftist propaganda.

Miloslaw
26 Feb 2026  #971

This country is in trouble, and you have to be an absolute retard to not understand..

America is in trouble and so is The UK and Europe and Russia is in the most trouble......

You have to be an absolute retard not to see that Russia is in more trouble than the rest of the western world!

Torq
27 Feb 2026  #972

That's a lot of sweeping hatred

Not at all. Why can't you force yourself into a little bit of philosophical/theological thinking without accusing people of being leftards, "Adolfs" or haters?

I don't hate America at all. I am merely noticing the absolute rot and corruption of your country as a whole (not every single American individually!). You could argue that Poland would be equally rotten and corrupt if we were given American power and wealth. Who knows. Perhaps. However, God spared us this temptation, the temptation that you, as a country (meaning your elites and a significant part of your society as well), have failed miserably.

Poland's deadly sin used to be pride but God, being wise, took steps to cleanse us from it. It was painful, true, but necessary. American overwhelming deadly sin seems to be greed. You - as a society - worship Mammon with all its despicable consequences. If an average Chinese consumed as much as an average American, we would need 3 additional Planet Earths! God will cleanse you of greed too, like he cleansed us of pride - of this you can be sure.

Cherry picking one chapter of history doesn't make you morally superior.

One chapter? I started with the very creation of your country and ended with nuking defenseless women and children, mentioning everything in between. What has driven you to what you have done is, as I mentioned above, greed for mammon and lust for power. You can be smart and treat is as a biblical warning from a prophet (a minor one but still) or you can foam at the mouth and call me an Adolf or a hater. Your choice.

For someone who claims the U.S. is irrelevant

When did I say the US is irrelevant? Quote me, please.

In general, Joker, I think you should give up on AI - it's not helpful at all in the long run if you try to use it the way you do, to conduct coherent long-term discussions. Human intelligence is still superior in this regard.

mafketis
27 Feb 2026  #973

I think war.

War?.... that implies armies and geographic division (north south, east west, rebel provinces vs central government).

What are the internal divisions? Too many states have both red and blue (or purple) areas...

More dysfunction? yeah

More disorder? yeah

More dystopian? yeah

The closest I can imagine to war is a handful of large cities against the rest... but that would not last long as the blue cities have nothing to unite them and the red populace would make mince meat of them very quickly unless there's military intervention (for the population that hates the military.....).

Bigger and bigger third world garbage fire? yeah

War as traditionally understood.... don't see it.

Joker
27 Feb 2026  #974

You hopeless idiot..

You still haven't admitted you were wrong about the USA women's hockey team. That whole meltdown yesterday was built on a false premise. Care to correct it, or are we pretending that didn't happen:) Actually, dont answer, dont need another novel, Haha

You can be smart and treat is as a biblical warning from a prophet (a minor..

Torq, I actually think you're a decent person. I believe in Jesus too, and I believe He'll return. When that day comes, evil, corruption, and all this political madness won't matter to us at all.

I'm tired of arguing politics every day. It's going to be unseasonably warm in Chicago, and I'd rather spend it golfing than fighting with strangers online about things none of us can control.

Have a good day:)

In general, Joker, I think you should give up on AI

And let's be honest, anyone invoking Mammon and planetary consumption stats in the same breath is either using AI or desperately wishing they were:)

Torq
27 Feb 2026  #975

Have a good day:)

You too!

invoking Mammon and planetary consumption stats in the same breath

That's what being a prophet does to you - divine inspiration and all that. Anyways, enjoy your round, if you can. ;)

Bratwurst Boy
28 Feb 2026  #976

It has begun!

Israeli preemptive strike in Tehran:

US involved in military strikes in Iran

Special state of emergency in Israel ++ Khamenei apparently "safe"

bild.de/politik/alarmstufe-rot-israel-startet-iran-angriff-69a289077c787f6a1cef1b52

Jerusalem - Israel has launched a preemptive strike against Iran, according to its own statement. The Israeli Defense Minister announced this on Saturday. Iranian media reported hearing explosions in Tehran.

......

US Participates in Military Strikes

According to multiple media reports, the US is participating in the Israeli military strike against Iran. The New York Times and the Israeli broadcaster N12 reported this on Saturday, citing US government officials......


Crnogorac3
28 Feb 2026  #977

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So the attack began as expected, they paitently waited for the hockey final, the Melania movie in theaters and the closing of the stock exchange on Friday.

mafketis
28 Feb 2026  #978

It has begun!

Bye Bye Mid-terms!

Hardly anyone in MAGA wants this and most will see it as a major betrayal.

Crnogorac3
28 Feb 2026  #979

Trump on Iran:

We're negotiating right now, but they're not getting to the right answer. And we're not going to see people - we're not going to see what's happened for 47 years keep going. For 47 years, we've been doing this with them.

The Obama deal was the worst deal. Nobody ever saw a deal so stupid. Right now, if you did the Obama deal - if that held, if I didn't terminate it - Iran would have a nuclear weapon, and it would be a whole different ballgame.

That Obama deal was one of the worst, one of the dumbest deals I've ever seen. First of all, it was very short-term; it would long be over. You know that. It would be - but I terminated it. But if I didn't, it would be over by now anyway.

The Obama deal - what he did was one of the dumber deals. I've seen a lot of dumb deals; that would be one of the dumber deals.


x.com/clashreport/status/2027499612139880937

Here's 30 years of Netanyahu telling you Iran is days away from a nuclear bomb.

x.com/OwenShroyer1776/status/2026811589391696344

Bibi looks physically the same in 2026 as he did in 1995. Maybe in 95 he had a few more gray hairs. The Iranians are preparing cluster bombs with garlic.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Feb 2026  #980

Hardly anyone in MAGA wants this and most will see it as a major betrayal.

I dunno.....he made a monster-speech in TV.....even if I'm not already convinced that the end of the Mullahs will be a good thing for the Iranians and the world alike, I would be now! ;)

And yes, he waited till the Olympics are over and the US-icehockey-teams got their victories over Canada....so.....whats not to like? :)

Barney
28 Feb 2026  #981

Hardly anyone in MAGA wants this

Just when the cover up of Trumps relations with Epstein were gaining traction. Why are documents mentioning Trump being withheld despite a US law demanding their release?

Bratwurst Boy
28 Feb 2026  #982

I wonder what Putin will do now to support his last ally.....will he send troops and arms, out of Ukraine???

Khamenei surely has a warm room waiting for him in Moscow already....if he isn't caught hiding in some drainage pipe like Gaddafi before him....

mafketis
28 Feb 2026  #983

waited till the Olympics are over

like russia.... yay?

the end of the Mullahs will be a good thing for the Iranians

And US interventions in the middle east have always worked out so well.....

I hate the Iranian government which has been crippling the country for decades but US intervention in that part of the world never works.

Bibi needs to stay out of prison and so what Bibi wants Bibi gets....

Bratwurst Boy
28 Feb 2026  #984

but US intervention in that part of the world never works.

....I truly hope the iranian people are of a different class and culture than the afghan barbarians.....they at least remember living in a civilized country, most of them want that back!

PS: Ending the Mullahs will surely also end the iranian support for Putin....that would also surely weaken his war effort in Ukraine....now that Maduro is already gone too!

Torq
28 Feb 2026  #985

Ending the Mullahs will surely also end the iranian support for Putin

That's a very good reason for the regime change in Iran. If only we could pull it off in North Korea as well!

Bratwurst Boy
28 Feb 2026  #986

If only we could pull it off in North Korea as well!

....I guess most people think its more or less South Korea's problem...and when they do nothing, why should we (aka the US)...*shrugs*

Maybe its also because there are no images of brave protestors getting murdered, its hard to bond emotionally with them....NK is like a dark void!

Ironside
28 Feb 2026  #987

distorted is some people's view of Poland

There is nothing that can be done about it. I mean, in terms of talking and explaining, it's useless. Also, who cares? teenagers?
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Poles, remain humble and not end up with a feeling of immense moral superiority when we..

Just look at our reality with a discerning eye; a lot is lacking
. Not to mention, look at our birth rates.
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Can you imagine Poland twice electing somebody who boasted about sexually assaulting women?

Well, Poland elected many times a nobody who boasted about being homosexual
and who broke his mother's jaw.
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The center of gravity of economic life has been shifting unto the Sun Belt.

I think it is just a cookie monster figure they use to spook people.

Ironside
28 Feb 2026  #988

First, they slaughtered the natives and put them in reservations,

So what? Has someone noticed their absence? Their millennia on the North American continent changed nature in small ways that made it easier for settlers to settle.
Anything valuable from their culture was absorbed. There is no loss.
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You obsess over America 24/7/365 like it's your full-time job. Meanwhile, nobody here sits around talking.

Cut the BS. Who doesn't talk about it? You and your mates? That's not everybody. Go out more.
Second,all that crap woke, LGBT rights crazy feminism and all come puring from the US, in the form of grants, influence, Hollywood, and so on. That **** is polluting this planet. You want people to ignore the source? WTF?
Keep your shi't for yourself for real, and nobody will even look twice at you.

Barney
28 Feb 2026  #989

Can the US president declare war? I don't think so but it looks very much like war has been declared with the stated aim of regime change. This is not a short limited action. Will the rest of the elected representatives in the US have anything to say about Trump ignoring the US constitution.

Ironside
28 Feb 2026  #990

Can the US president declare war?

In simple terms, the answer is yes, he can.


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