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Would Poles support Belgrade as EU Capital, instead of Brussels, if possibility occurs for that ?



Crow
26 Dec 2017  #61

@Dirk diggler

I agree. Not many of us left.

Its because we don`t have developed mechanisms. Only one internal Slavic regulatory mechanism left. Those are Serbs. Last trump card of our still beautiful but truly devastated civilization.

Its because Serbians over Sarmatian connection tend to Poles, while being Orthodox, Russians don`t see Serbs as opposition. Plus, you have that fusion of Slavic paganism (I don`t like that word `pagan`) within Serbian way of Christianity. Publicly, other Slavs, no mater of which Christian provenance belong don`t speak of it but they frantically admire by Serbs for being able to still stand and openly demonstrate loyalty to ancestors and old faith.

What is especially intimidated (to other Slavs) about Serbs is that they due to their unique position within Slavic world, can be able to talk to Russia as equal. Simple, Russia don`t have neither strategic, neither emotional and any other mechanism to dictate to Serbs. To approach and talk yes, not to dictate. Serbians are useful to Russia exactly because they are stubbornly Serbians and Slavs, Sarmatians. Such a Serbs are also good bridge between Russia and other Slavs. That Russia have interest to support. Without Serbs, Russia is isolated.

But Serbs have its specific interests and deals with other Slavs. Serbs have imagination that giving hard times to Russia.

Take this example with re-export of Polish apples. You heard that Serbian joke how Putin reacted when Russian trade minister informed him what Serbs doing. Putin told him to `go and f*** yourself. You want that I finish in madhouse!`. See, this maybe even isn`t joke.

Vucic recalls "face-to-face meeting with Putin in huge room"
b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2017&mm=12&dd=26&nav_id=103122

President Aleksandar Vucic said his talks in Moscow last week with President Vladimir Putin were "good and substantial."


Dirk diggler
27 Dec 2017  #62

But Serbs have its specific interests and deals with other Slavs

True. Serbs have acted as mediators and I believe are trying to do so again in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. The Ukranians want EU so bad but they have no clue what they're in store for. I guess if you're making a few hundred a month and everything is so corrupt the EU looks better than the current situation. The IMF already owns Ukraine now as a country with oligarchs owning the major corps and levers of power.

At least the EU isn't nearly as powerful as it was 5-10 years ago and its soft and hard power is waning more and more. The migrant crisis, stagnant Euro, Brexit, a dissident Poland, V4 and now even Austria, the conflicts in Ukraine, the rebellion in Spain, 2-3 years of nonstop state of emergency, right wing forces being a serious contender to the liberal establishment, and of course Russian/Chinese/Iranian growing influence with US/W Europe's decline is all adding to that. Even the US and W. Europe aren't as close as they were.

Recent article from the garbage, I mean guardian:

In Brexit Britain, Leave.eu on Twitter urged Theresa May to block the "EU bullying of Poland", "tell the EU get stuffed" and "honour the alliance forged by the heroic sacrifice of Polish airmen in the defence of our country" - with hashtags "WWII" and "battle of Britain".

Reading comments online, some of them from American sympathisers, I was also reminded of how Donald Trump had waxed lyrical about Poland's government on his visit to Warsaw last summer:a nationalist US president fawning over a nationalist Polish government with heaps of scorn piled on the European project along the way.


France's Front National, whose leader Marine Le Pen had taken part, days earlier, in a gathering of European far-right leaders in Prague, lambasted "a scandalous decision" that "yet threatens countries who dare confront the absolutism of the EU". "Today Poland, tomorrow Hungary and then Austria," she added.

. It's true the EU has entered uncharted waters, but rules of unanimity will probably protect Poland from further consequences, whether on voting rights or access to European funds.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/26/brexiters-eu-poland-brussels-warsaw-trade-deals#img-1

I am so happy that Eastern Europe, especially Poland, has not been brainwashed and cucked into altering their society and are defending their civilization. More and more people everyday are saying we don't want to be replaced, we're not going to put up with terror and people who refuse to assimilate, we're not going to allow the EU to infringe on our sovereignty, and we're not going to let others tell us who to take into our country.

Indeed, a trickle of seniors and young educated conservative couples are flocking to Poland, Czechy, etc as refugees from the multicultural hell that is France/Germany/etc. There's more and more retirees especially settling down in Wroclaw from France and Germany. Tens of thousands of Poles have been making their way back to PL from UK as well. I just hope that one day Poland can have a better relationship with the rest of the Slavic world - including Russia.

Crow
19 Jan 2018  #63

EXIT fest is declared to be best European music festival > This is about my city, Novi Sad! I told you that Serbians are coming back!

EXIT picked as best festival at European Festival Awards
b92/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2018&mm=01&dd=18&nav_id=103300

EXIT has been officially declared as best major festival in Europe at the European Festival Awards 2017 in the Netherlands.

The feeling is indescribable, we are extremely proud that we have brought back the greatest recognition to our Novi Sad, the European capital of culture, to our Serbia

exit

flocking to Poland, Czechy, etc as refugees from the multicultural hell that is France/Germany/etc..

Good things accelerate. Assimilation would be prevented.

Hotel Hilton Belgrade

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delphiandomine
2 Mar 2018  #64

Crowie, can you help? I'm looking for pictures of this place - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowne_Plaza_Belgrade - as it was in the 1990's. But inside, not outside. I can't find anything, but maybe there's a Serbian website about it?

Crow
7 Mar 2018  #65

Its the renovated former Hotel Beograd InterContinental. Just use this name of hotel and google that.

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BDW, in hotel InterContinental Arkan was assassinated (as some say by US CIA). Maybe exactly on place that is on this image, if I can remember well stories about ti back in time.

in past

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now

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delphiandomine
7 Mar 2018  #66

, in hotel InterContinental Arkan was assassinated

That's why I was asking! Thank you :)


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