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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



johnny reb
23 Apr 2016  #1411

Don't notice Hillary going after Trump with similar invective!

That is because she has way to much dirty laundry that Trump could chew her up with.

Lyzko
23 Apr 2016  #1412

Or isn't it just possible that it could be reverse?? Nooooo, Trump's perfect, huh?

Wulkan
23 Apr 2016  #1413

To all those Hilary and Bernie supporters who think that taking illegal immigrants is making any good change.



jon357
23 Apr 2016  #1414

Nooooo, Trump's perfect, huh?

Exactly. If he wins the nomination, there will probably be a lot coming out of the woodwork.

Wulkan
23 Apr 2016  #1415

there will probably be a lot coming out of the woodwork.

yes, the unhappy left winger will be crying

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #1416

That doesn't actually make much sense. Or any sense.

Wulkan
23 Apr 2016  #1417

just like most of your posts that don't answer the content of the quote

johnny reb
23 Apr 2016  #1418

Or isn't it just possible that it could be reverse?? Nooooo, Trump's perfect, huh?

Let's play a game here to find out Lyzko.
You post three things concerning President Trumps dirty laundry and I will counter with three things concerning Crooked Hillary's dirty laundry and see who runs out of dirty laundry first.
Wanna play ?

Lyzko
24 Apr 2016  #1419

And who DOESN'T have dirty laundry to air???!

AdrianK9
24 Apr 2016  #1420

Wulkan I lived in Mexico for a short time. I can tell you that quite a few of the deportees especially those living in Tijuana who speak fluent English are making a killing. There are many US companies that especially cater to English speaking deportees and get them to work in telemarketing. The deportees that are good salespeople make $50k USD or more - a small fortune in Tijuana.

Mexico, aside from rural places in Durango, Michoacán, etc. really isn't all that poor. Yes, there are villages with little to no infrastructure or services, but it's like that in most countries. Compared to places like Guatemala and El Salvador - Mexico is really well off. Another thing to add, is Mexico's immigration policy is extremely strict - they go hard on the illegals from Honduras, Guatemala, Belize, etc. During my time in Mexico, I've met many people who actually moved back to Mexico because they had a better standard of living in Mexico working an average blue collar job than they did mowing lawns or working a fryer for $9 an hour in the US. I loved living there and I can tell you that in places like Mexico City the middle class is large and pretty wealthy and it has an high of HDI as many other alpha world cities in the West. You'd mistake it for Miami if you were just dropped in the middle.

johnny reb
24 Apr 2016  #1421

That is because she has way to much dirty laundry that Trump could chew her up with.

isn't it just possible that it could be reverse?? Nooooo, Trump's perfect, huh?

Let's play a game here to find out Lyzko.

And this is your reply !
And who DOESN'T have dirty laundry to air???!

LOL - I guess you don't want to play that game do you. Smart

TheOther
24 Apr 2016  #1422

Hillary's dirty laundry...

...won't matter because the majority of the voters believe that Trump's a crazy egomaniac, Cruz is a religious nutter, Kasich is insignificant, and Bernie is a communist. Leaves us with Clinton. Now go and do your bawling in the bathroom... :)

sonichits.com/video/David_Peel/I_Do_My_Bawling_In_The_Bathroom

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1423

I'll take an egomaniac over a criminal cold-hearted biatch with no remorse for the human lives she's responsible for in Libya. Then again, she learned from the best - Kissinger!

Wulkan
25 Apr 2016  #1424

I just noticed Bernie Sanders father was a Polish Jew, kind of explains why Soros likes him so much.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1425

Surprisingly... Bernie Sanders doesn't bother me that much.. I appreciate his approach and what he's trying to do, I just think he's going about it the wrong way..

It doesn't really matter who wins, we're still screwed by the repetitive cycle of boom and bust (to deter away from the true value of the USD), UN, agenda 21, IMF, multikulti society, liberalism, ridiculous taxes, readiness to ban homeopathic treatments, terrorism, GMOs (you guys are so lucky in Europe you don't have the disgusting food we do here), Codex Alimentiarus, the disgusting status of our water here in the US, our deplorable infrastructure, the spying on everyday US citizens, executive orders that state that basically a person's house and car can be confiscated and have people put into 'prolonged detention' even if there is little to no evidence of their supposed crime and just so many other things.

Even if someone did truly have the people's best interests in mind, I don't think 4 years or even 8 years would be enough time to change everything.

Bieganski
25 Apr 2016  #1426

kind of explains why Soros likes him so much.

Soros is spoiled for choice in this presidential election.

Ted Cruz may not be Jewish but he is an Evangelical and so naturally he is a rabid Zionist as well.

Hillary Clinton is not only a rabid Zionist but she married her only daughter off to a Jew whose own father was an American politician who was convicted of 31 charges of felony fraud and served five years in federal prison.

Although Donald Trump doesn't come across as a rabid Zionist he is definitely pro-Israel. His daughter Ivanka is married to a Jew as well. And there was an interesting article in The Guardian recently about a rather peculiar Jew by the name of Roy Cohn who apparently was a very close mentor to Trump. There is some other rather unsavory information online about Mr. Cohn such as him being an unapologetic racist as well as a self-loathing closeted homosexual who died from AIDS. But I found this tidbit from The Guardian piece to be most troubling regarding this one time member of Trump's inner circle:

Roy Cohn, a notoriously harsh lawyer who rose to prominence in the mid-1950s...As Senator Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel, he was a kind of stage director of the major events of the red scare: the trial of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg and the McCarthy hearings...According to David Greenglass, Cohn pressured him...

Source: theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/roy-cohn-donald-trump-joseph-mccarthy-rosenberg-trial

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1427

If I could see a politician like Trump telling a bunch Zionists at AIPAC to pay their fair share I think I could die a happy man, or if Henry Kissinger was sent to East Timor to account for his crimes - that'd suffice too.

Bieganski, Zionists run this country - I mean that's not even a debate anymore. It's not just one department like the Treasury or the Fed - it's every single important one - pentagon ($2 trillion announced lost by Dov Zakheim the week of 9/11), cabinet, senate, congress, nsa, etc. I couldn't believe how many senators, congressman, and representatives had dual US-Israeli citizenship - seems like dubious loyalties but oh well that the good ol' of US of A. Everything is simply done in the west to keep people poor and distribute wealth now. However, I think that Trump is one of the few who understands these people, knows how to deal with them, and most importantly publicly told a group of Jews that he doesn't want their money and that he knows they won't support him because they can't control him.

Just earlier I was reading a book on how the NSA did away with a program that they'd been working on for decades called ThinThread and just before going operational totally did away with it because they wanted to get more money from the government to implement a totally new idea called Trailblazer (which threw the 4th and 5th amendments totally out the window) and made a bunch of people millionaires. One guy who was the key whistleblower was charged with 10 felonies including espionage but luckily the charges were dismissed - didn't change the fact that the FBI abused him and his family and destroyed his possessions and put him in financial ruin. Of course, nothing changed... and that is our country...

like I say, I don't need sex, the government fukks me everyday.

johnny reb
25 Apr 2016  #1428

Anybody wonder why they are called the "Clinton Crime Family" ?
There were 82 corporations, trade associations and other groups that paid for or sponsored Clinton's speeches have actively sought to sway the government by lobbying, bidding for contracts, commenting on federal policy and in some cases contacting State Department officials or Clinton herself during her tenure as secretary of state.
Hillary has been paid over a $100 million USD over the past ten years for her speeches and refuses to let the transcripts of them be seen by the public.
Amazing, simply amazing.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1429

Let's not forget Clinton's coverup for the former Ambassador to Belgium - who was charged with pedophilia due to repeatedly ditching his security detail - I believe his name was Howard Gutman... or the the guys in the US State Department guys who were caught running a drug ring in Iraq.. two other things that Hillary did her best to sweep under the rug - those two things aren't talked about... then again, I understand - there's so many other scandals it's truly hard to keep track of them all.

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1430

Adrian, no matter what you think of her, Clinton has a 10%+ lead over Trump at the moment. If she wins the nomination, she will be our next president. The only thing that could stop her is an indictment, and that (most likely) won't happen.

johnny reb
25 Apr 2016  #1431

This country is already passed the point of return so it really doesn't matter who gets elected.
America is no more the America of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Crooked Hillary will just help finish it off a little faster.

Marsupial
25 Apr 2016  #1432

I dont see any danger from either trump or clinton to the usa. It is just another phase for the usa different from the obama years. It needs to be diffetent because the old us kinda looks stale to me right now.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1433

Adrian, no matter what you think of her, Clinton has a 10%+ lead over Trump at the moment.

I know that. It's most likely that Hillary will win the presidency. I'm not happy about it but I can see the writing on the wall. I will honestly move out of this country if she wins. The US is no longer a place for a person like me.

It is just another phase for the usa different from the obama years

Clinton will be nothing more than a 3rd term of Obama - more of the same b.s. distribution of wealth, higher taxes, unprotected borders, dilapidated infrastructure, and class/race warfare. More planning for flattening the world, less rights for gun owners, and more civil liberties being trampled on...

God I wish I was the age of most of the poster's here - you guys lived during the good times!

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1434

I will honestly move out of this country if she wins.

Life in Europe is a lot different. You'll be in for a surprise.

America is no more the America of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It still is, but only for those with a decent job and some cash in the bank.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1435

Life in Europe is a lot different. You'll be in for a surprise.

I know, I've travelled all throughout Europe and lived in Poland and Germany for a short period. I just came back from a trip to Poland, Germany, and Czech Rep. a few months ago. Life in Eastern Europe is a lot different than Western Europe. Yes, it's not as wealthy and more corrupt, but it's also more conservative, more religious, more traditional, and not nearly as exploited by people from Asia and Africa. Like for example, England was way too much like a Europeanized US, at least to me. I definitely wouldn't want to live there. I found London to be dirty, crowded, and unnecessarily expensive. The only thing I liked there was the wool suits and tailors actually.

It still is, but only for those with a decent job and some cash in the bank.

With Hillary's new tax proposal, that decent job and cash in the bank won't mean much unless you're spending it. If you plan on saving and reinvesting your money you're going to be taxed like never before. I have a great job for my age but it matters little since of my salary (38.8% taken out of commission) is taken out to pay for taxes, social security and medicare - taxes I can understand because someone has to support the over 100 million people out of the labor force but I'd honestly be shocked if I ever got anything from social security or medicare once I'm old. I don't make a whole whopping amount of money yet I have a high net worth for my age because instead of partying my butt off in college and buying brand new BMWs and Mercedes every 3 years and living off credit cards I instead chose not to use a credit card, drive an old car which is still very reliable and save, invest, and reinvest my money.

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1436

I found London to be dirty, crowded, and unnecessarily expensive.

I lived there in the mid 1970's. Same thing: dirty, crowded and expensive, but fun. Sometimes I get the impression that your generation has forgotten how to have fun.

I'd honestly be shocked if I ever got anything from social security or medicare once I'm old.

You'll probably have to work until you are 70 or 75 before you are eligible. Talking about fun, right? :(

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1437

Sometimes I get the impression that your generation has forgotten how to have fun.

My generation only knows how to play video games, watch tv, and binge drink - which can be fun. If it doesn't involve electronics - it's not fun. It's sad no one like wants to go like hunting or fishing or offroading - they all rather just sit at home watch Hollywood propaganda, play stupid video games and complain about this or that. Most of my friends are actually older than me and can actually appreciate the outdoors and don't think of playing video games and watching stupid movies as the epitome of fun.

You'll probably have to work until you are 70 or 75 before you are eligible. Talking about fun, right? :(

I know it's insane. Plus more and more money is taken out of Medicare each year to pay for welfare recipients' Medicaid. When people say that the US has $19 trillion in debt, that figure is misleading because it doesn't include obligations, unfunded pensions, retiree healthcare, etc. making the real figure around $76 trillion (some say it's as high as $210 trillion - Mercatus Center at George Mason University). Even the $76 trillion figure is 20x the $3.8 trillion we spent in 2015.

That is why Johnny, I refuse to spend my whole life working in the US just so my money can be redistributed to freeloaders and to make Zionist bankers in the Fed and Treasury even more wealthy. This country helped me out when I first came here it really did. I certainly had opportunities that would've been unavailable to me in Poland. However, now I think that there's actually more economic opportunity abroad and the chance to actually save and invest some real money for retirement than there ever will be in the US again.

johnny reb
25 Apr 2016  #1438

It's sad no one like wants to go like hunting or fishing or offroading -

Talk for yourself, that is how I spend ALL my leisure time when my health allows it.
That is why Johnny, I refuse to spend my whole life working in the US

And that is why I saw this coming twenty years ago and build myself a home on the side of a mountain in Jamaica.
Fresh water, unlimited fresh fruits and non GMO vegetables year around.
Grass fed cattle, free range chickens, fresh fish from the ocean daily (if the wind isn't blowing to hard).
The temperature is between 75* and 85* year around and very few British.
You can have ANYTHING you want if you have money, ANYTHING.
The day is nearing to sell my herd of beef cattle and retire with a young house girl or two or three to take care of me in old age. :-)
This country is done as soon as the USD collapses which looks like very soon.
The exchange rate in Jamaica is a $122 J for $1 USD.
So technically I am a multi multi millionaire when I retire there.
Life is good.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1439

Talk for yourself, that is how I spend ALL my leisure time when my health allows it.

Yeah luckily Wisconsin is a short drive away for me. Lots of open land and lots of good fishing. Around Chicago there's nothing and all the lakes are so polluted you wouldn't even want to eat what you catch. I try to make it out on the weekends as much as possible weather permitting but it always seems like something comes up.

home on the side of a mountain in Jamaica

That's awesome. I've been to Jamaica several times and I liked it a lot. I was in Ocho Rios, Negril and drove around Kingston for a bit. Then again that was in my weed smoking years haha. I'm sure the real estate is very cheap there though. When I was in Mexico a couple years back, you could buy a decent property for $30k - I'm assuming it's probably very similar in Jamaica I'll most likely still have at least 25-30 years to go before I can think about retirement but at least in the mean time I definitely don't want to waste time working in the US just to feed and shelter people who refuse to do the same. It's a waste of life it really is. You're basically just living to work instead of the other way around. Yeah the food we have in the US is just flat out disgusting. Now there's even a big push by the pharma companies to basically make vaccines mandatory for everyone and eliminate homeopathic medicine. We have a huge problem with heroin in the US and one of the best cures, ibogaine, (again, cure - not treatment) is totally outlawed here.

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1440

We have a huge problem with heroin in the US and one of the best cures, ibogaine, (again, cure - not treatment) is totally outlawed here.

Same with the cure for Hep C. It's not outlawed, but so prohibitively expensive that the insurers refuse to pay for it. Many of our problems here in the US are caused by corporate greed and the government allowing predatory capitalism. Why is free trade for prescription drugs suppressed for example? Why can a creep like Martin Shkreli get away with his "business model"? Why is there no cap for litigation settlements? Greed, profit, shareholder value ... and all of us pay. And would you believe it: Trump, the personification of corporate greed, still has about 40% of the voters behind him.

If it doesn't involve electronics - it's not fun.

The real issue is that many seem to have forgotten how to talk to each other face to face.


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